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Gert wrote:The Pieter Hendriks try was not a try. The ball never touched the ground

Watched the video from around 10:50

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MFwQB9Dp-Y

Australia was robbed

Gert wrote:With all the cameras and replays today that might not have been given a try..

Just saying

Openside wrote:

Gert wrote:With all the cameras and replays today that might not have been given a try..

Just saying

He would have gone under the posts surely if the ref hadn't already blown for the try??

Enzedder wrote:From memory, weren't the French a little "unlucky" as well?

Gert wrote:With all the cameras and replays today that might not have been given a try..

Just saying

J Man wrote:

Gert wrote:With all the cameras and replays today that might not have been given a try..

Just saying

What would happen if that occured today? Ref awards it, TMO sees on replay that it was never grounded and calls it up before the conversion is taken. Player would have scored anyway if the ref hadn't prematurely awarded it. It would make for a very awkward moment.

Farva wrote:

J Man wrote:

Gert wrote:With all the cameras and replays today that might not have been given a try..

Just saying

What would happen if that occured today? Ref awards it, TMO sees on replay that it was never grounded and calls it up before the conversion is taken. Player would have scored anyway if the ref hadn't prematurely awarded it. It would make for a very awkward moment.

Player should be clever enough to put it down knowing that the TMO exists and may check. I would have no sympathy for them, its akin to players who lose the ball in a giant dive over the line. Unless they were from my team then I would be yelling bloody murder.

Gert wrote:The Pieter Hendriks try was not a try. The ball never touched the ground

Watched the video from around 10:50

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MFwQB9Dp-Y

Australia was robbed

wsurfa wrote:

Gert wrote:The Pieter Hendriks try was not a try. The ball never touched the ground

Watched the video from around 10:50

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MFwQB9Dp-Y

Australia was robbed

Feck, right click and select copy at current time, you lazy IT shy type

https://youtu.be/7MFwQB9Dp-Y?t=695

Gert wrote:

Openside wrote:

Gert wrote:With all the cameras and replays today that might not have been given a try..

Just saying

He would have gone under the posts surely if the ref hadn't already blown for the try??

True, but the ref might seen it on the big screen and asked for a review. I know its 23 years ago, was still a great game to watch.

msp. wrote:Just watched Invictus.. It was a try and Mandela and Jonah Lomu were the same height..

Nieghorn wrote:A little later, Stransky had a drop kick tipped in flight then go dead, and it results in a 5m scrum to South Africa. I don't think I've ever seen that in a match before at any level.

Made me wonder, if the ball didn't go dead and an Aussie grounded in-goal, is that also 5m because they were last to touch it or would it be a 22m drop out because a charge down doesn't count as 'brought in'?

Farva wrote:

J Man wrote:

Gert wrote:With all the cameras and replays today that might not have been given a try..

Just saying

What would happen if that occured today? Ref awards it, TMO sees on replay that it was never grounded and calls it up before the conversion is taken. Player would have scored anyway if the ref hadn't prematurely awarded it. It would make for a very awkward moment.

Player should be clever enough to put it down knowing that the TMO exists and may check.

The rugby world was most definitely not in union yesterday after remarks by South Africa's rugby president, Louis Luyt, reduced a banquet to mark the end of the World Cup tournament to acrimonious farce.

In a speech which resonated with the old Afrikaans arrogance, Mr Luyt proclaimed the victorious Springboks as the first 'true' world champions.

'There were no true world champions in the 1987 and 1991 World Cups because South Africa were not there. We have proved our point,' he said.

This prompted New Zealand's defeated captain, Sean Fitzpatrick, to lead his side out of the dinner - but not before some players had approached the top table to take issue with Mr Luyt.

The All Blacks were quickly followed by the French and English. 'It's disgusting. I can not believe what he has said,' Mr Fitzpatrick said afterwards.

The South African Rugby Football Union president's remarks spoiled what should have been a day of celebration for 43 million South Africans. Morne du Plessis, manager of the new world champions, led the apologies.

'Tired and emotional are the words that come to mind, though I am not sure that I followed the theme at that part of Mr Luyt's speech,' he said.

'The difference between being winners and being a sorrowful lot is fragile. We were not there in '87 or '91, and I have my personal doubts about us being able to do anything in terms of winning the World Cup in those years.'

Mr Luyt, who is to diplomacy what Jonah Lomu is to English wingers, compounded his country's embarrassment by inexplicably singling out the Welsh referee Derek Bevan - who officiated at the Springboks' crucial semi-final against France - for special praise. The match, which South Africa won 19-15, was marked by controversy after Mr Bevan denied the French a last-minute try because of an infringement.

To the astonishment of the 1,000 diners - and to the Welshman's obvious embarrassment - Mr Luyt presented him with a £1,000 gold watch, calling him 'the most wonderful referee in the world'.

'If everyone does not think that, I certainly do. I would ask him to step up and receive this gift as the outstanding referee in the World Cup,' the Sarfu president said.

In the spirit of a rapidly disintegrating social event, the mortified Welshman joined his fellow officials as they staged their own walkout in protest at Mr Luyt's behaviour.

'It was something I could have done without,' Mr Bevan said. 'It came out of the blue: I have no idea why he singled me out. It could be misconstrued, and if that is the case, it leaves a bitter taste.'

Gert wrote:Australia was robbed

Yourmother wrote:https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theg ... ugbyunion1

I wasn’t actually aware of this.


Wow, what a total c.

The rugby world was most definitely not in union yesterday after remarks by South Africa's rugby president, Louis Luyt, reduced a banquet to mark the end of the World Cup tournament to acrimonious farce.

In a speech which resonated with the old Afrikaans arrogance, Mr Luyt proclaimed the victorious Springboks as the first 'true' world champions.

'There were no true world champions in the 1987 and 1991 World Cups because South Africa were not there. We have proved our point,' he said.

This prompted New Zealand's defeated captain, Sean Fitzpatrick, to lead his side out of the dinner - but not before some players had approached the top table to take issue with Mr Luyt.

The All Blacks were quickly followed by the French and English. 'It's disgusting. I can not believe what he has said,' Mr Fitzpatrick said afterwards.

The South African Rugby Football Union president's remarks spoiled what should have been a day of celebration for 43 million South Africans. Morne du Plessis, manager of the new world champions, led the apologies.

'Tired and emotional are the words that come to mind, though I am not sure that I followed the theme at that part of Mr Luyt's speech,' he said.

'The difference between being winners and being a sorrowful lot is fragile. We were not there in '87 or '91, and I have my personal doubts about us being able to do anything in terms of winning the World Cup in those years.'

Mr Luyt, who is to diplomacy what Jonah Lomu is to English wingers, compounded his country's embarrassment by inexplicably singling out the Welsh referee Derek Bevan - who officiated at the Springboks' crucial semi-final against France - for special praise. The match, which South Africa won 19-15, was marked by controversy after Mr Bevan denied the French a last-minute try because of an infringement.

To the astonishment of the 1,000 diners - and to the Welshman's obvious embarrassment - Mr Luyt presented him with a £1,000 gold watch, calling him 'the most wonderful referee in the world'.

'If everyone does not think that, I certainly do. I would ask him to step up and receive this gift as the outstanding referee in the World Cup,' the Sarfu president said.

In the spirit of a rapidly disintegrating social event, the mortified Welshman joined his fellow officials as they staged their own walkout in protest at Mr Luyt's behaviour.

'It was something I could have done without,' Mr Bevan said. 'It came out of the blue: I have no idea why he singled me out. It could be misconstrued, and if that is the case, it leaves a bitter taste.'

'It was something I could have done without,' Mr Bevan said. 'It came out of the blue: I have no idea why he singled me out. It could be misconstrued, and if that is the case, it leaves a bitter taste.'

I remember it well, the first gold watch ever in Wales. He took it from village to village on a magnificent bus tour of the country and we lined the streets and wept as we saw the watch such beauty. Still brings a tear to my eye.

Vicar of Dibley wrote:

'It was something I could have done without,' Mr Bevan said. 'It came out of the blue: I have no idea why he singled me out. It could be misconstrued, and if that is the case, it leaves a bitter taste.'

I remember it well, the first gold watch ever in Wales. He took it from village to village on a magnificent bus tour of the country and we lined the streets and wept as we saw the watch such beauty. Still brings a tear to my eye.

Probably not the first Welshman to trade in his principles for a bit of gold.

Average Joe wrote:23 fokon years. There are posters here that were not even born yet.

bessantj wrote:

Yourmother wrote:https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theg ... ugbyunion1

I wasn’t actually aware of this.


Wow, what a total c.

The rugby world was most definitely not in union yesterday after remarks by South Africa's rugby president, Louis Luyt, reduced a banquet to mark the end of the World Cup tournament to acrimonious farce.

In a speech which resonated with the old Afrikaans arrogance, Mr Luyt proclaimed the victorious Springboks as the first 'true' world champions.

'There were no true world champions in the 1987 and 1991 World Cups because South Africa were not there. We have proved our point,' he said.

This prompted New Zealand's defeated captain, Sean Fitzpatrick, to lead his side out of the dinner - but not before some players had approached the top table to take issue with Mr Luyt.

The All Blacks were quickly followed by the French and English. 'It's disgusting. I can not believe what he has said,' Mr Fitzpatrick said afterwards.

The South African Rugby Football Union president's remarks spoiled what should have been a day of celebration for 43 million South Africans. Morne du Plessis, manager of the new world champions, led the apologies.

'Tired and emotional are the words that come to mind, though I am not sure that I followed the theme at that part of Mr Luyt's speech,' he said.

'The difference between being winners and being a sorrowful lot is fragile. We were not there in '87 or '91, and I have my personal doubts about us being able to do anything in terms of winning the World Cup in those years.'

Mr Luyt, who is to diplomacy what Jonah Lomu is to English wingers, compounded his country's embarrassment by inexplicably singling out the Welsh referee Derek Bevan - who officiated at the Springboks' crucial semi-final against France - for special praise. The match, which South Africa won 19-15, was marked by controversy after Mr Bevan denied the French a last-minute try because of an infringement.

To the astonishment of the 1,000 diners - and to the Welshman's obvious embarrassment - Mr Luyt presented him with a £1,000 gold watch, calling him 'the most wonderful referee in the world'.

'If everyone does not think that, I certainly do. I would ask him to step up and receive this gift as the outstanding referee in the World Cup,' the Sarfu president said.

In the spirit of a rapidly disintegrating social event, the mortified Welshman joined his fellow officials as they staged their own walkout in protest at Mr Luyt's behaviour.

'It was something I could have done without,' Mr Bevan said. 'It came out of the blue: I have no idea why he singled me out. It could be misconstrued, and if that is the case, it leaves a bitter taste.'

I remember it well, the first gold watch ever in Wales. He took it from village to village on a magnificent bus tour of the country and we lined the streets and wept as we saw the watch such beauty. Still brings a tear to my eye.