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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 2:22 pm 
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Bye-bye the common EU taxation policy.

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/hea ... -1.3791090

Ireland and Germany : Shoulder to shoulder. :P


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I was looking at some of the export/import implications for both the UK and Ireland this morning.

I came across this link. Its quite interesting.

I knew Ireland and its beef dominance(67% of your beef imports), was surprised by a lot of other countries.

https://www.glotechrepairs.co.uk/news/the-uks-top-food-imports-and-where-they-come-from/

The import data for the first 6 months of 2018 was collected from HM Revenue & Customs.

The thing about beef is that production can't be ramped up instantly by pressing a button. It takes between 14 and 30 months to produce prime beef calves for slaughter. Assuming Brexit in March, and adding in the gestation period of 9 months you are talking between two and three years after Brexit before new meat production hits the market.

This time lag exists for a lot of agricultural production.

What it means is that there is effectively a two year or so grace period for, say, Irish beef suppliers to the UK to find alternative markets for their produce, starting with premium British/Scottish beef exports into the EU.



"Premium British" is breed based, are you saying you'll suddenly produce something edible ?


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Ireland and Germany : Shoulder to shoulder. :P


Just like old times!


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Ireland and Germany : Shoulder to shoulder. :P


Just like old times!

Six minutes!

I was sure I'd have someone in the boat in under 5. :(


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Yes our beef is so awful

What with our identical climates and breeds to yours.

Are your cows magic you daft wanker?


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Lovely quote from Fox :

"It is too difficult to hire and fire, and too expensive to take on new employees. It is intellectually unsustainable to believe that workplace rights should remain untouchable.”


Indeed, the EU is going in exactly the opposite direction. Making sure agency workers rights are protected, ensuring that if you do a part time or unpredictable hours job like Deliveroo or Uber your rights are still fully protected, your probation can only last six months etc

https://ec.europa.eu/social/main.jsp?catId=706&langId=en&intPageId=207

http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?pubRef=-//EP//TEXT+REPORT+A8-2018-0355+0+DOC+XML+V0//EN#title2

This sort of stuff drives the Tory scum mad


It's almost as if there was some underlying reason for Brexit other than Parliamentary Sovereignty and the freedom to eat as many bendy bananas as we can stuff in our mouths.


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Ireland and Germany : Shoulder to shoulder. :P


Just like old times!

Six minutes!

I was sure I'd have someone in the boat in under 5. :(


I was making the tea :x


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Ireland and Germany : Shoulder to shoulder. :P


Just like old times!

Six minutes!

I was sure I'd have someone in the U boat in under 5. :(



Fixed.


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https://twitter.com/AdamBienkov/status/1095314211243216896?s=19
More Borisology.


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General election May 2nd?
https://twitter.com/Rashidhussain69/status/1095310498810286082

We are back to Groundhog day.


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Ireland and Germany : Shoulder to shoulder. :P


Just like old times!

Six minutes!

I was sure I'd have someone in the U boat in under 5. :(



Fixed.


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Yes our beef is so awful

What with our identical climates and breeds to yours.

Are your cows magic you daft wanker?

Well they are British so have a certain magic. They were more special when we fed them sheep brains. We certainly have some mad cows. We even let them in parliament. Will our animals get blue passsports as well?


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tazman77 wrote:
General election May 2nd?
https://twitter.com/Rashidhussain69/status/1095310498810286082

We are back to Groundhog day.

So, May throws the DUP under a bus and gets GB out of the backstop whilst leaving NI in.

Presents this as major concession by the EU.

Gets home with a majority government.

Gets "Maydeal" voted through parliament and GB toddles off to years of FTA negotitions somewhere on the sunny uplands. ?

And Boris gets to play Pirate Pete for a few years.


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tazman77 wrote:
General election May 2nd?
https://twitter.com/Rashidhussain69/status/1095310498810286082

We are back to Groundhog day.


After brexit no deal? I thought she wasn't going to contest the next election.


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camroc1 wrote:
tazman77 wrote:
General election May 2nd?
https://twitter.com/Rashidhussain69/status/1095310498810286082

We are back to Groundhog day.

So, May throws the DUP under a bus and gets GB out of the backstop whilst leaving NI in.

Presents this as major concession by the EU.

Gets home with a majority government.

Gets "Maydeal" voted through parliament and GB toddles off to years of FTA negotitions somewhere on the sunny uplands. ?

And Boris gets to play Pirate Pete for a few years.



Unless they look for and get an extension of Art. 50, a May 2nd GE is irrelevant.


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There's been rumours of a GE for months but fudge all of substance on that front.


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Hellraiser wrote:
camroc1 wrote:
tazman77 wrote:
General election May 2nd?
https://twitter.com/Rashidhussain69/status/1095310498810286082

We are back to Groundhog day.

So, May throws the DUP under a bus and gets GB out of the backstop whilst leaving NI in.

Presents this as major concession by the EU.

Gets home with a majority government.

Gets "Maydeal" voted through parliament and GB toddles off to years of FTA negotitions somewhere on the sunny uplands. ?

And Boris gets to play Pirate Pete for a few years.



Unless they look for and get an extension of Art. 50, a May 2nd GE is irrelevant.

Indeed. But I'm pretty sure the EU will give an extension to accommodate a UK GE if it settles deal/no deal once and for all.


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camroc1 wrote:
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camroc1 wrote:
tazman77 wrote:
General election May 2nd?
https://twitter.com/Rashidhussain69/status/1095310498810286082

We are back to Groundhog day.

So, May throws the DUP under a bus and gets GB out of the backstop whilst leaving NI in.

Presents this as major concession by the EU.

Gets home with a majority government.

Gets "Maydeal" voted through parliament and GB toddles off to years of FTA negotitions somewhere on the sunny uplands. ?

And Boris gets to play Pirate Pete for a few years.



Unless they look for and get an extension of Art. 50, a May 2nd GE is irrelevant.

Indeed. But I'm pretty sure the EU will give an extension to accommodate a UK GE if it settles deal/no deal once and for all.

I.E. Get rid of the DUP.


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Trimble is going for it.

https://www.scribd.com/document/3994620 ... from_embed


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Petej wrote:
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Yes our beef is so awful

What with our identical climates and breeds to yours.

Are your cows magic you daft wanker?

Well they are British so have a certain magic. They were more special when we fed them sheep brains. We certainly have some mad cows. We even let them in parliament. Will our animals get blue passsports as well?



No no

In Bimbo's mind a worldwide export ban is a sign of quality


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camroc1 wrote:
tazman77 wrote:
General election May 2nd?
https://twitter.com/Rashidhussain69/status/1095310498810286082

We are back to Groundhog day.

So, May throws the DUP under a bus and gets GB out of the backstop whilst leaving NI in.

Presents this as major concession by the EU.

Gets home with a majority government.

Gets "Maydeal" voted through parliament and GB toddles off to years of FTA negotitions somewhere on the sunny uplands. ?

And Boris gets to play Pirate Pete for a few years.


How exactly would May over turn the 230 votes her deal lost by


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Ireland and Germany : Shoulder to shoulder. :P


Just like old times!

Six minutes!

I was sure I'd have someone in the boat in under 5. :(

You were playing straight man not fishing


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https://twitter.com/ThomasWPenny/status/1095331304126668802

This is how serious Tories take the whole politicking thing, can't even be arsed to show up


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camroc1 wrote:
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Ireland and Germany : Shoulder to shoulder. :P


Just like old times!

Six minutes!

I was sure I'd have someone in the boat in under 5. :(


5 or 6 no matter really but I would have given you pretty short odds on who would be in the first batch of hoppers.


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That tweet is from December 2017 ;)


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That tweet is from December 2017 ;)

:?


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That tweet is from December 2017 ;)

That's sort of the point


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That tweet is from December 2017 ;)

That's sort of the point

The accusation is that he said one thing when the WA was published before changing his tune, but the tweet in question is from the year before and is not referring to the WA



Unless i'm being wooshed?


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sturginho wrote:
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That tweet is from December 2017 ;)

That's sort of the point

The accusation is that he said one thing when the WA was published before changing his tune, but the tweet in question is from the year before and is not referring to the WA



Unless i'm being wooshed?

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-42277040


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tazman77 wrote:
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sturginho wrote:
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That tweet is from December 2017 ;)

That's sort of the point

The accusation is that he said one thing when the WA was published before changing his tune, but the tweet in question is from the year before and is not referring to the WA



Unless i'm being wooshed?

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-42277040


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it also sets out a fallback position if the UK fails to agree a trade deal. This could prove controversial because it says there will continue to be "full alignment" between the EU and Northern Ireland on some elements of cross-border trade, as set out in the Good Friday Agreement.

The DUP would have preferred this not to be in the agreement, says the BBC's Chris Morris, and there could be some hard negotiating to do further down the line


And they say the art of understatement is barely worth the trouble....


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So some seeing its pistols at dawn at the summit on the 21nd March, a very minorily altered May deal plus a short Art 50 extension.


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So some seeing its pistols at dawn at the summit on the 21nd March, a very minorily altered May deal plus a short Art 50 extension.


Sounds pretty much like exactly what we wanted when we voted for Brexit.

Congrats all.


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So some seeing its pistols at dawn at the summit on the 21nd March, a very minorily altered May deal plus a short Art 50 extension.


Sounds pretty much like exactly what we wanted when we voted for Brexit.

Congrats all.


Some element of Lady Macbeth in this
"But screw your courage to the sticking place and we'll not fail" [allegedly not rude but referring to the tuning peg on a guitar or other instrument]

Her nerve against 640 others.

Cracking theatre. If it were theatre and not this side of the Westminster Proscenium


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As the EU gets progressively more fed up with Brexit; the time periods for the 'Emergency Measures', seems to be getting shorter & shorter.

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Trains will be permitted to use the Channel Tunnel for three months if the UK leaves the EU without a deal, under a proposed European Commission law.

The planned legislation, published on Tuesday, will give the UK and France time to renegotiate the terms under which the railway service operates.

The law must be agreed by the European Parliament and EU member states.


Truck drivers, & Airlines got nearly a year; the trains get 3 months. I smell another lawsuit from the Chunnel operators.


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As the EU gets progressively more fed up with Brexit; the time periods for the 'Emergency Measures', seems to be getting shorter & shorter.

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Trains will be permitted to use the Channel Tunnel for three months if the UK leaves the EU without a deal, under a proposed European Commission law.

The planned legislation, published on Tuesday, will give the UK and France time to renegotiate the terms under which the railway service operates.

The law must be agreed by the European Parliament and EU member states.


Truck drivers, & Airlines got nearly a year; the trains get 3 months. I smell another lawsuit from the Chunnel operators.



Blimey, and there we were being told that the planes would be grounded. Looks like lots,of "emergency" stuff saving the day.


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Robbins "overheard" saying it will be May's deal or extension.

May has been denying any extension. It's just a lying mess.


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Robbins "overheard" saying it will be May's deal or extension.


Yep, oops

https://www.itv.com/news/2019-02-12/exc ... extension/


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Robbins "overheard" saying it will be May's deal or extension.


Yep, oops

https://www.itv.com/news/2019-02-12/exc ... extension/

The same plum left all his notes detailing various Cabinet positions on Brexit on the Eurostar last year.

He sounds as incompetent as May herself.


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sewa wrote:
camroc1 wrote:
tazman77 wrote:
General election May 2nd?
https://twitter.com/Rashidhussain69/status/1095310498810286082

We are back to Groundhog day.

So, May throws the DUP under a bus and gets GB out of the backstop whilst leaving NI in.

Presents this as major concession by the EU.

Gets home with a majority government.

Gets "Maydeal" voted through parliament and GB toddles off to years of FTA negotitions somewhere on the sunny uplands. ?

And Boris gets to play Pirate Pete for a few years.




How exactly would May over turn the 230 votes her deal lost by


Erin Brokovich ;)


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Margin_Walker wrote:
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Robbins "overheard" saying it will be May's deal or extension.


Yep, oops

https://www.itv.com/news/2019-02-12/exc ... extension/


You think he spoke loudly, in a public area of a hotel; right beside a reporter .... by accident !


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