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One of the north east brexit party candidates put his home address in France. Which amused me.Rugby2023 wrote:The Dane Henrik Nielsen elected for Brexit Party, not so anti-foreigner after all
NI does single transferable vote so could take a while with all the countsSamShark wrote:Anyone know whats left?
Scotland and NI?
Heard of Farage? Formerly from UKIp fame?openclashXX wrote:Seriously impressed with how Nigel and the BP have managed to launch and scale a party in six weeks to come first in an election
It's particularly stark when you compare it to the damp squib launch of CHUK - creating a successful party is clearly not easy
Other political parties should be trying desperately to copy his methods because there's now one party operating in a digital age while the rest are still analog
Rugby2023 wrote:And people think Mark Francois is excitable...
https://twitter.com/PrisonPlanet/status ... 5559453696
He's clearly learnt his lessons from trying desperately to herd the loonies in UKIP for years - there was a piece in the Guardian recently on how he's taken lessons from the leadership of M5S on how to grow a young party quickly without the teething problems of most political entities (the in-fighting, power struggles, rogue candidates going off script etc, ie all the things CHUK have struggled with). It's a good read, I would recommend itnardol wrote:Heard of Farage? Formerly from UKIp fame?openclashXX wrote:Seriously impressed with how Nigel and the BP have managed to launch and scale a party in six weeks to come first in an election
It's particularly stark when you compare it to the damp squib launch of CHUK - creating a successful party is clearly not easy
Other political parties should be trying desperately to copy his methods because there's now one party operating in a digital age while the rest are still analog
Of course he did and support for his type will only increase if those who have a genuine concern continue to be treated like dirt.Salanya wrote:Tommy Robinson still managed to get over 38.000 votes
You've missed Corbyn's cut and paste response to this evening's results thenSamShark wrote:
In other words, more of Brexiters saying what they believe, remainers saying what they believe, but surely - SURELY - not Corbyn saying everything is just great with his "clear" position.
The only way to sort this out is via a second referendum. Remain or No Deal Brexit. Hopefully just the minor hope of salvation will see the value of the £ rise.SamShark wrote:Well, could have been a hell of a lot worse for anti-Brexit voters. 32% ish is a quality result for the Brexit party but not as high as some polls.
Presume Scotland (definitely) and NI will be remain, so we have got a good result in no deal vs no Brexit parties.
People will argue for days about how you allocate Lab/Con voters.
Give Labour to remain and that's consistent with polls saying people are 55% remain.
In other words, more of Brexiters saying what they believe, remainers saying what they believe, but surely - SURELY - not Corbyn saying everything is just great with his "clear" position.
You should think before you type.Sun Tzu wrote:Of course he did and support for his type will only increase if those who have a genuine concern continue to be treated like dirt.Salanya wrote:Tommy Robinson still managed to get over 38.000 votes
At least his MEPs - however long they last in the job - are all very pro-EU.openclashXX wrote:You've missed Corbyn's cut and paste response to this evening's results thenSamShark wrote:
In other words, more of Brexiters saying what they believe, remainers saying what they believe, but surely - SURELY - not Corbyn saying everything is just great with his "clear" position.
It could be the only option that can actually interest both sides of this increasingly polarised debate, but not sure the Brexiteers will go for it as the word "referendum" is seen as so treacherous.Sun Tzu wrote:The only way to sort this out is via a second referendum. Remain or No Deal Brexit.SamShark wrote:Well, could have been a hell of a lot worse for anti-Brexit voters. 32% ish is a quality result for the Brexit party but not as high as some polls.
Presume Scotland (definitely) and NI will be remain, so we have got a good result in no deal vs no Brexit parties.
People will argue for days about how you allocate Lab/Con voters.
Give Labour to remain and that's consistent with polls saying people are 55% remain.
In other words, more of Brexiters saying what they believe, remainers saying what they believe, but surely - SURELY - not Corbyn saying everything is just great with his "clear" position.
I don't think much has changed man.SamShark wrote:Well, could have been a hell of a lot worse for anti-Brexit voters. 32% ish is a quality result for the Brexit party but not as high as some polls.
Presume Scotland (definitely) and NI will be remain, so we have got a good result in no deal vs no Brexit parties.
People will argue for days about how you allocate Lab/Con voters.
Give Labour to remain and that's consistent with polls saying people are 55% remain.
In other words, more of Brexiters saying what they believe, remainers saying what they believe, but surely - SURELY - not Corbyn saying everything is just great with his "clear" position.
@LeftieStats
EU Referendum voting intention:
50.4% ~ Leave
49.6% ~ Remain
Via @Survation, 22 May
If you really want a poll-off on this go right ahead. We could take it in turns and provide linksRugby2023 wrote:I don't think much has changed man.SamShark wrote:Well, could have been a hell of a lot worse for anti-Brexit voters. 32% ish is a quality result for the Brexit party but not as high as some polls.
Presume Scotland (definitely) and NI will be remain, so we have got a good result in no deal vs no Brexit parties.
People will argue for days about how you allocate Lab/Con voters.
Give Labour to remain and that's consistent with polls saying people are 55% remain.
In other words, more of Brexiters saying what they believe, remainers saying what they believe, but surely - SURELY - not Corbyn saying everything is just great with his "clear" position.@LeftieStats
EU Referendum voting intention:
50.4% ~ Leave
49.6% ~ Remain
Via @Survation, 22 May
People will make of it what they want to.Wendigo7 wrote:We’re back at square one.
Okay mate - I hope you enjoy the latest opinion of Owen JonesSalanya wrote:You should think before you type.Sun Tzu wrote:Of course he did and support for his type will only increase if those who have a genuine concern continue to be treated like dirt.Salanya wrote:Tommy Robinson still managed to get over 38.000 votes
The word 'referendum' isn't seen as treacherous. Being told that you simply didn't know what you were voting for and other dimwitted comments that do nothing to win the votes of those who are initially in disagreement with you however are rightfully given short shrift.SamShark wrote:It could be the only option that can actually interest both sides of this increasingly polarised debate, but not sure the Brexiteers will go for it as the word "referendum" is seen as so treacherous.Sun Tzu wrote:The only way to sort this out is via a second referendum. Remain or No Deal Brexit.SamShark wrote:Well, could have been a hell of a lot worse for anti-Brexit voters. 32% ish is a quality result for the Brexit party but not as high as some polls.
Presume Scotland (definitely) and NI will be remain, so we have got a good result in no deal vs no Brexit parties.
People will argue for days about how you allocate Lab/Con voters.
Give Labour to remain and that's consistent with polls saying people are 55% remain.
In other words, more of Brexiters saying what they believe, remainers saying what they believe, but surely - SURELY - not Corbyn saying everything is just great with his "clear" position.
Without any policies. Impressive indeed but also a bit worrying no?openclashXX wrote:Seriously impressed with how Nigel and the BP have managed to launch and scale a party in six weeks to come first in an election
It's particularly stark when you compare it to the damp squib launch of CHUK - creating a successful party is clearly not easy
Other political parties should be trying desperately to copy his methods because there's now one party operating in a digital age while the rest are still analog
They have 1 stated aim and no policies at all. So it s easy for people to identify them.Sun Tzu wrote:The Brexit Party has almost double the seats of its nearest competitor - despite just being around for 6 weeks. It's nearest competitor by contrast has been around for over 150 years.
I don't think the UK ever got to square 2; that's always been the illusion.Wendigo7 wrote:We’re back at square one.
Leffe wrote:So apparently "Top Tories" are threatening to bring down any subsequent PM who backs no deal. Which means they only back remain, right? I mean, it's clear there is no deal.
They will be very much ex top Tories if they do that. You are quite possibly right.Leffe wrote:I don't think the UK ever got to square 2; that's always been the illusion.Wendigo7 wrote:We’re back at square one.
I think the UK now has clarity where there previously had been none. Brexit is inherently Hard Brexit; there is no deal and there never has been. UKIP purposefully hid this reality in the referendum so as to provide one clear voice and to avoid any debate on "what Brexit is". And to effectively combine all the votes of people who had differing and contradictory opinions of what Brexit should be.Wendigo7 wrote:You are quite possibly right.Leffe wrote:I don't think the UK ever got to square 2; that's always been the illusion.Wendigo7 wrote:We’re back at square one.
