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PostPosted: Thu May 23, 2019 9:31 pm 
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It would be bizarre if UK exit polls cannot be published due to the possible influence on those countries yet to vote, but the Dutch one can be.


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PostPosted: Thu May 23, 2019 9:31 pm 
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Mick Mannock wrote:
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I cant remember where I read this but it's just UK law - I think about 11 EU nations publish exit polls


No idea. However, The Express should not be doing this.

It certainly should be the case for all nations IMO.

Why ?

The elections are undertaken under the legislation of the individual countries.

For example the UK uses a modified d'Hondt method, Ireland uses STVPR, others use variations of list PR.

Just as the method of election varies by country, so do the rules and regulations surrounding the elections.

It's a sign of how the EU lets individual country's decide how they want to do something rather than it coming from the centre.


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It would be bizarre if UK exit polls cannot be published due to the possible influence on those countries yet to vote, but the Dutch one can be.

UK legislation that can be changed in Westminster.


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Government facing calls to launch inquiry into registration EU citizens. Lawyers say there are multiple breaches of EU law and group action possible. Tower Hamlets apologise to German duo. Electoral Commission to launch review of what happened


Electoral Commission blaming secrecy over whether elections would take place.

Not an acceptable excuse IMO, even if I agree it was no doubt unhelpful.

This could run and run, not because in isolation it's the worst thing that's ever happened, but because it's yet another thing that's happened in this divisive, incompetent, pointless Brexit shit show.

No doubt the people crying over milkshake will not have a problem with this - that's the nature of Brexit - bitter division about everything and the prize at the end of it all; fudge all.



I notice our democracy loving brexiteers are silent on this, except to imply that none of them registered properly.


Just the latest in a series

No deal = fine, democracy in action

Electoral law breaking = not a problem

Vote to have a final say on the deal = treachery


It's very nice of the UK to hand the EU a good reason to defer allowing the UK MEPs, taking their seats; while the EU investigates whether or not their elections was legitimate or not.

In the meanwhile, we'll just put an asterix beside their names.


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PostPosted: Thu May 23, 2019 9:36 pm 
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It would be bizarre if UK exit polls cannot be published due to the possible influence on those countries yet to vote, but the Dutch one can be.

UK legislation that can be changed in Westminster.


Fair point.
I think the UK has a better stance on this issue. But we have a very long history of unbroken democracy.


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Government facing calls to launch inquiry into registration EU citizens. Lawyers say there are multiple breaches of EU law and group action possible. Tower Hamlets apologise to German duo. Electoral Commission to launch review of what happened


Electoral Commission blaming secrecy over whether elections would take place.

Not an acceptable excuse IMO, even if I agree it was no doubt unhelpful.

This could run and run, not because in isolation it's the worst thing that's ever happened, but because it's yet another thing that's happened in this divisive, incompetent, pointless Brexit shit show.

No doubt the people crying over milkshake will not have a problem with this - that's the nature of Brexit - bitter division about everything and the prize at the end of it all; fudge all.



I notice our democracy loving brexiteers are silent on this, except to imply that none of them registered properly.


Just the latest in a series

No deal = fine, democracy in action

Electoral law breaking = not a problem

Vote to have a final say on the deal = treachery


It's very nice of the UK to hand the EU a good reason to defer allowing the UK MEPs, taking their seats; while the EU investigates whether or not their elections was legitimate or not.

In the meanwhile, we'll just put an asterix beside their names.


You may find the asterix turns up and contributes more than the Brexit party MEPs


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PostPosted: Thu May 23, 2019 9:40 pm 
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fishfoodie wrote:
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Government facing calls to launch inquiry into registration EU citizens. Lawyers say there are multiple breaches of EU law and group action possible. Tower Hamlets apologise to German duo. Electoral Commission to launch review of what happened


Electoral Commission blaming secrecy over whether elections would take place.

Not an acceptable excuse IMO, even if I agree it was no doubt unhelpful.

This could run and run, not because in isolation it's the worst thing that's ever happened, but because it's yet another thing that's happened in this divisive, incompetent, pointless Brexit shit show.

No doubt the people crying over milkshake will not have a problem with this - that's the nature of Brexit - bitter division about everything and the prize at the end of it all; fudge all.



I notice our democracy loving brexiteers are silent on this, except to imply that none of them registered properly.


Just the latest in a series

No deal = fine, democracy in action

Electoral law breaking = not a problem

Vote to have a final say on the deal = treachery


It's very nice of the UK to hand the EU a good reason to defer allowing the UK MEPs, taking their seats; while the EU investigates whether or not their elections was legitimate or not.

In the meanwhile, we'll just put an asterix beside their names.


EU can give it a go. What is more likely is that those voters genuinely denied a vote can sue their local council.


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I do love how “no deal” disaster has just become a fact.


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PostPosted: Thu May 23, 2019 9:47 pm 
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I do love how “no deal” disaster has just become a fact.


Hardly - 35% of the population is just about to vote for it, based on the word of a selfish charlatan.


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PostPosted: Thu May 23, 2019 9:53 pm 
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I do love how “no deal” disaster has just become a fact.


Hardly - 35% of the population is just about to vote for it, based on the word of a selfish charlatan.




They’re just people who don’t care if there’s short term issues to defend the democracy of the UK.


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PostPosted: Thu May 23, 2019 9:59 pm 
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bimboman wrote:
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I do love how “no deal” disaster has just become a fact.


Hardly - 35% of the population is just about to vote for it, based on the word of a selfish charlatan.




They’re just people who don’t care if there’s short term issues to defend the democracy of the UK.

If you think voting for this spiv is protecting democracy Ive got some magic beans you might be interested in.


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etherman wrote:
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I do love how “no deal” disaster has just become a fact.


Hardly - 35% of the population is just about to vote for it, based on the word of a selfish charlatan.




They’re just people who don’t care if there’s short term issues to defend the democracy of the UK.

If you think voting for this spiv is protecting democracy Ive got some magic beans you might be interested in.


Perhaps we will be forced to vote twice


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PostPosted: Thu May 23, 2019 10:04 pm 
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etherman wrote:
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bimboman wrote:
I do love how “no deal” disaster has just become a fact.


Hardly - 35% of the population is just about to vote for it, based on the word of a selfish charlatan.




They’re just people who don’t care if there’s short term issues to defend the democracy of the UK.

If you think voting for this spiv is protecting democracy Ive got some magic beans you might be interested in.


Perhaps we will be forced to vote twice

You dont have to vote at all. In fact i suggest you dont.


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PostPosted: Thu May 23, 2019 10:07 pm 
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I consider it my duty to vote


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PostPosted: Thu May 23, 2019 10:13 pm 
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I consider it my duty to vote

You're duty to who? You're fùcking your country.


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PostPosted: Thu May 23, 2019 10:13 pm 
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I consider it my duty to vote

You're duty to who? You're fùcking your country.



By voting ?

How odd.


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PostPosted: Thu May 23, 2019 10:15 pm 
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etherman wrote:
bimboman wrote:
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bimboman wrote:
I do love how “no deal” disaster has just become a fact.


Hardly - 35% of the population is just about to vote for it, based on the word of a selfish charlatan.




They’re just people who don’t care if there’s short term issues to defend the democracy of the UK.

If you think voting for this spiv is protecting democracy Ive got some magic beans you might be interested in.


I think the system of politicians representing the people’s wishes and those wishes being demonstrated by votes is important.


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PostPosted: Thu May 23, 2019 10:15 pm 
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I consider it my duty to vote

You're duty to who? You're fùcking your country.



By voting ?

How odd.

It is. The English and Welsh have voted for a national disaster. Well done you stupid cùnts.


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etherman wrote:
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I consider it my duty to vote

You're duty to who? You're fùcking your country.



By voting ?

How odd.

It is. The English and Welsh have voted for a national disaster. Well done you stupid cùnts.



You’re very sure of this. Also if so, so what ? That’s democracy.


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PostPosted: Thu May 23, 2019 10:19 pm 
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bimboman wrote:
etherman wrote:
bimboman wrote:
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I do love how “no deal” disaster has just become a fact.


Hardly - 35% of the population is just about to vote for it, based on the word of a selfish charlatan.




They’re just people who don’t care if there’s short term issues to defend the democracy of the UK.

If you think voting for this spiv is protecting democracy Ive got some magic beans you might be interested in.


I think the system of politicians representing the people’s wishes and those wishes being demonstrated by votes is important.

Yes, that was working well. Then you decided fùck this lets have a referendum.


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bimboman wrote:
etherman wrote:
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etherman wrote:
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I consider it my duty to vote

You're duty to who? You're fùcking your country.



By voting ?

How odd.

It is. The English and Welsh have voted for a national disaster. Well done you stupid cùnts.



You’re very sure of this. Also if so, so what ? That’s democracy.

Thats the death of democracy you moron.


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Yes, that was working well. Then you decided fùck this lets have a referendum.



That was a decision made by the electoral process as well.


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PostPosted: Thu May 23, 2019 10:22 pm 
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etherman wrote:
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etherman wrote:
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I consider it my duty to vote

You're duty to who? You're fùcking your country.



By voting ?

How odd.

It is. The English and Welsh have voted for a national disaster. Well done you stupid cùnts.


At least we have not joined the Euro like some stupid cvnts


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PostPosted: Thu May 23, 2019 10:23 pm 
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Thats the death of democracy you moron.


What is?


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PostPosted: Thu May 23, 2019 10:26 pm 
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Thats the death of democracy you moron.


What is?

If democratic decisions turn out to be awful for the country, do you think that strengthen democracy or undermines it as a form of government?


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Mick Mannock wrote:
etherman wrote:
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I do love how “no deal” disaster has just become a fact.


Hardly - 35% of the population is just about to vote for it, based on the word of a selfish charlatan.




They’re just people who don’t care if there’s short term issues to defend the democracy of the UK.

If you think voting for this spiv is protecting democracy Ive got some magic beans you might be interested in.


Perhaps we will be forced to vote twice


The EU usually requires you continue to have votes until you do as your told


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PostPosted: Thu May 23, 2019 10:28 pm 
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In rare good news the Dutch have rejected their far right party after it gained significant success in the previous 2 Euro elections (if exit polls are to be believed)

That douche bag openly told the wimminz of the N: that they should stop working and get busy making babies. That's not gonna sit well with people, so we were pretty much waiting for him to fall, it was his destiny.


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Mick Mannock wrote:
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In rare good news the Dutch have rejected their far right party after it gained significant success in the previous 2 Euro elections (if exit polls are to be believed)


Someone has broken the law in that case

Seriously wtf? :uhoh:


Did you not know it is illegal to publish an exit poll whilst voting is still taking place? Not all EU countries are even voting today. The elections have not closed.

But using illegal dark money, is cool.


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PostPosted: Thu May 23, 2019 10:32 pm 
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Is it?


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In rare good news the Dutch have rejected their far right party after it gained significant success in the previous 2 Euro elections (if exit polls are to be believed)



You got a link, we covered this earlier and Wilders party support has just shifted to a new right wing party.


Fair enough didn't realise that.

If the FvD are far right, then they have stayed the same

Summary:

A surprisingly good night for Dutch PvdA (Labour Party, previously in a death spiral), with a solid performance from Rutte’s VVD. Disappointment for leftish D66, but greens did well.

The result will be seen as a disappointment for the pro-Nexit Forum, which had been forecast as a potential winner. The anti-European PVV is also set to see its support slashed from four to just one seat, according to the Ipsos poll. In total, just 15% of Dutch voters have voted for pro-Nexit parties and support for Eurosceptic parties, including the Socialists, is down from 23% to just over 19%.

Read more at DutchNews.nl:

Exit poll for Netherlands shows unexpected gains for social democrats and smaller than predicted percentage for Thierry Baudets FvD


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PostPosted: Thu May 23, 2019 10:37 pm 
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The EU usually requires you continue to have votes until you do as your told


:lol: :lol: :lol: Another idiotic voice joins the fray


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It is entirely up to the Dutch how they vote. That is democracy.


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bimboman wrote:
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I do love how “no deal” disaster has just become a fact.


Hardly - 35% of the population is just about to vote for it, based on the word of a selfish charlatan.




They’re just people who don’t care if there’s short term issues to defend the democracy of the UK.

If you think voting for this spiv is protecting democracy Ive got some magic beans you might be interested in.


I think the system of politicians representing the people’s wishes and those wishes being demonstrated by votes is important.

That's not the premise of MP's, this has already been determined. They set their stall out, you vote for them, they do not have to change their minds as you do, with each headline in the Mail and Express.


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bimboman wrote:
etherman wrote:
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I consider it my duty to vote

You're duty to who? You're fùcking your country.



By voting ?

How odd.

It is. The English and Welsh have voted for a national disaster. Well done you stupid cùnts.



You’re very sure of this. Also if so, so what ? That’s democracy.

No it's not. The result was ADVISORY. If the result had been binding, the referendum would have been deemed legally null and void due to all the anomalies. These are facts.


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Is it?

Apparently Mick, otherwise you and your supposed democracy loving buddies, would strongly question the result of the referendum.


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etherman wrote:
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etherman wrote:
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I consider it my duty to vote

You're duty to who? You're fùcking your country.



By voting ?

How odd.

It is. The English and Welsh have voted for a national disaster. Well done you stupid cùnts.


Not all of us. But yes, I agree with you. Stupid plum.


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Is it?

Apparently Mick, otherwise you and your supposed democracy loving buddies, would strongly question the result of the referendum.


You cannot accept the result. That is your problem. Just grow up please. I do not question or throw tizzies about the result of other elections.


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Thats the death of democracy you moron.


What is?

If democratic decisions turn out to be awful for the country, do you think that strengthen democracy or undermines it as a form of government?



I think the government that implements the bad ideas people have voted for get voted out by then same process. The process isn’t at fault.


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Is it?

Apparently Mick, otherwise you and your supposed democracy loving buddies, would strongly question the result of the referendum.


You cannot accept the result. That is your problem. Just grow up please. I do not question or throw tizzies about the result of other elections.

Is it the"Ad" or the "visory" part of the word "advisory" that you struggle with?


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Leffe wrote:
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Leffe wrote:
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Is it?

Apparently Mick, otherwise you and your supposed democracy loving buddies, would strongly question the result of the referendum.


You cannot accept the result. That is your problem. Just grow up please. I do not question or throw tizzies about the result of other elections.

Is it the"Ad" or the "visory" part of the word "advisory" that you struggle with?


As I said, you just cannot accept it. The majority of people who voted in 2016 decided they wanted to leave. Inconvenient but true. Both main political parties said they would honour the result. They have not.


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