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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 11:15 pm 
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So Wales went Brexit Party...?



On 32% of the vote? FPTP really warps you Brits perception of electoral reality.


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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 11:16 pm 
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Mick Mannock wrote:
Salanya wrote:
Basically the Brexit party has picked up the previous UKIP party votes, as well as a good share of the Conservative brexiteer votes.

Lib Dems, Greens and Change have taken votes from Labour (and perhaps some Conservatives) who strongly favour Remain.

If you add it all up then the Remain-side is stronger than it has been in other elections. Labour and especially Conservatives punished for having no clear message or policies.

The ladies on the BBC having a petty fight now.


Spinning as much as the women.


No spin there. But as it doesn't suit you and Bimbo I'm sure you will get on your warhorse all the same.


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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 11:16 pm 
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Mick Mannock wrote:
No Heidi, your party is crap.

Yes her answers is even more warped than Labours.


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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 11:16 pm 
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Was Scotland indyref 2? Surely any independence voter went for snp?


That’s what I’m reading for the Brexit Party. Wonder if they’ll get > 50%

BP = no deal.


I’m not seeing a resounding majority for no deal here.

No. But I was suggesting SNP under 50 means no independence. You were presumably suggesting that no under 50 means remain.


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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 11:17 pm 
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I thought the UK had changed their minds on Brexit now that people have "all the facts".

Not seeing it. The country is in the same place now as it was 3 years ago.


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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 11:17 pm 
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LibDems and Greens the biggest movers allowing for UKIP votes being.same as BP


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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 11:17 pm 
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To summarise:

- Farage wins in UK.
- Le Pen wins in France
- Salvini wins in Italy.
- Orban wins in Hungary.
- Right wing surging in Sweden.


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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 11:17 pm 
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Salanya wrote:
Mick Mannock wrote:
Salanya wrote:
Basically the Brexit party has picked up the previous UKIP party votes, as well as a good share of the Conservative brexiteer votes.

Lib Dems, Greens and Change have taken votes from Labour (and perhaps some Conservatives) who strongly favour Remain.

If you add it all up then the Remain-side is stronger than it has been in other elections. Labour and especially Conservatives punished for having no clear message or policies.

The ladies on the BBC having a petty fight now.


Spinning as much as the women.


No spin there. But as it doesn't suit you and Bimbo I'm sure you will get on your warhorse all the same.


We have tanks. Ireland and possibly Albania have to make do with nags


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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 11:18 pm 
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Sun Tzu wrote:
What planet is Thornberry on when she says that the country isn't for a No Deal :?

Brexit Party is for a No Deal. Brexit Party is sweeping the floor with the competition. It's that simple.


Only getting one third of the vote .... One third is less than fifty percent


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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 11:18 pm 
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Thornberry moves for the leadership from here.


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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 11:18 pm 
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FWIW Mary Banotti, an Irish MEP from 1984 - 2004 just reminisced on RTE that when she was first elected and took her seat she had a German MEP on one side of her and an Italian on the other. Both remembered scavanging through bins in the years after WW2 looking for stale bread and scraps to eat.

That is why the EU exists, and will always exist.


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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 11:18 pm 
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Mick Mannock wrote:
Salanya wrote:
Basically the Brexit party has picked up the previous UKIP party votes, as well as a good share of the Conservative brexiteer votes.

Lib Dems, Greens and Change have taken votes from Labour (and perhaps some Conservatives) who strongly favour Remain.

If you add it all up then the Remain-side is stronger than it has been in other elections. Labour and especially Conservatives punished for having no clear message or policies.

The ladies on the BBC having a petty fight now.


Spinning as much as the women.

It's delicious.


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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 11:19 pm 
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Sun Tzu wrote:
To summarise:

- Farage wins in UK.
- Le Pen wins in France
- Salvini wins in Italy.
- Orban wins in Hungary.
- Right wing surging in Sweden.


France not at all in alignment with Germany, it seems.


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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 11:19 pm 
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No Heidi, your party is crap.

Yes her answers is even more warped than Labours.


Yeah, made her sound silly tbh.


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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 11:19 pm 
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I thought the UK had changed their minds on Brexit now that people have "all the facts".

Not seeing it. The country is in the same place now as it was 3 years ago.


Well, lets have a look tomorrow.

You have to decide whether you include Labour as remain or Brexit, but it will be easy enough to add remain and leave and see if it matches the polls, which are nearly exclusively remain though not at levels where anyone clains the UK has "changed it's mind"


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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 11:19 pm 
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nardol wrote:
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What planet is Thornberry on when she says that the country isn't for a No Deal :?

Brexit Party is for a No Deal. Brexit Party is sweeping the floor with the competition. It's that simple.


Only getting one third of the vote .... One third is less than fifty percent

Even less for other options on a party by party basis gives them legitimacy.


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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 11:19 pm 
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Sun Tzu wrote:
To summarise:

- Farage wins in UK.
- Le Pen wins in France
- Salvini wins in Italy.
- Orban wins in Hungary.
- Right wing surging in Sweden.


Doesn't take any votes from EPP or ALDE or greens . With the greens doing brilliant all over Europe that will ensure the Pro EU coalition controls the EU parliament for another 5 years.


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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 11:20 pm 
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nardol wrote:
Sun Tzu wrote:
What planet is Thornberry on when she says that the country isn't for a No Deal :?

Brexit Party is for a No Deal. Brexit Party is sweeping the floor with the competition. It's that simple.


Only getting one third of the vote .... One third is less than fifty percent


All that matters is the number of seats that each party wins :thumbup:


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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 11:20 pm 
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iarmhiman wrote:
Sun Tzu wrote:
To summarise:

- Farage wins in UK.
- Le Pen wins in France
- Salvini wins in Italy.
- Orban wins in Hungary.
- Right wing surging in Sweden.


Doesn't take any votes from EPP or ALDE or greens . With the greens doing brilliant all over Europe that will ensure the Pro EU coalition controls the EU parliament for another 5 years.



“Control” ....


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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 11:20 pm 
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FWIW Mary Banotti, an Irish MEP from 1984 - 2004 just reminisced on RTE that when she was first elected and took her seat she had a German MEP on one side of her and an Italian on the other. Both remembered scavanging through bins in the years after WW2 looking for stale bread and scraps to eat.

That is why the EU exists, and will always exist.


Incredible logic


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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 11:20 pm 
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Mick Mannock wrote:
Sun Tzu wrote:
To summarise:

- Farage wins in UK.
- Le Pen wins in France
- Salvini wins in Italy.
- Orban wins in Hungary.
- Right wing surging in Sweden.


France not at all in alignment with Germany, it seems.

Again - Macron is actually more disliked than our tories.


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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 11:21 pm 
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bimboman wrote:
iarmhiman wrote:
Sun Tzu wrote:
To summarise:

- Farage wins in UK.
- Le Pen wins in France
- Salvini wins in Italy.
- Orban wins in Hungary.
- Right wing surging in Sweden.


Doesn't take any votes from EPP or ALDE or greens . With the greens doing brilliant all over Europe that will ensure the Pro EU coalition controls the EU parliament for another 5 years.



“Control” ....


And there it is from Bimbo for another night.


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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 11:21 pm 
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camroc1 wrote:
FWIW Mary Banotti, an Irish MEP from 1984 - 2004 just reminisced on RTE that when she was first elected and took her seat she had a German MEP on one side of her and an Italian on the other. Both remembered scavanging through bins in the years after WW2 looking for stale bread and scraps to eat.

That is why the EU exists, and will always exist.



That’s one narrative , one that’s mental.


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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 11:21 pm 
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Sun Tzu wrote:
To summarise:

- Farage wins in UK.
- Le Pen wins in France
- Salvini wins in Italy.
- Orban wins in Hungary.
- Right wing surging in Sweden.

Yet overall insignificant gains by right wing nationalists.....


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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 11:21 pm 
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Thornberry moves for the leadership from here.


She is a thundercunot.

Speaking of which, here's Alistair.


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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 11:22 pm 
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iarmhiman wrote:
bimboman wrote:
iarmhiman wrote:
Sun Tzu wrote:
To summarise:

- Farage wins in UK.
- Le Pen wins in France
- Salvini wins in Italy.
- Orban wins in Hungary.
- Right wing surging in Sweden.


Doesn't take any votes from EPP or ALDE or greens . With the greens doing brilliant all over Europe that will ensure the Pro EU coalition controls the EU parliament for another 5 years.



“Control” ....


And there it is from Bimbo for another night.



Brexit will happen, out right racist parties in s9me countries are surging, and you bleat on about 5 years of control.


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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 11:23 pm 
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Wendigo7 wrote:
Mick Mannock wrote:
Sun Tzu wrote:
To summarise:

- Farage wins in UK.
- Le Pen wins in France
- Salvini wins in Italy.
- Orban wins in Hungary.
- Right wing surging in Sweden.


France not at all in alignment with Germany, it seems.

Again - Macron is actually more disliked than our tories.

Not showing in election results. Le Pens margin narrower than in 2014


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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 11:23 pm 
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RodneyRegis wrote:
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Was Scotland indyref 2? Surely any independence voter went for snp?


That’s what I’m reading for the Brexit Party. Wonder if they’ll get > 50%

BP = no deal.


I’m not seeing a resounding majority for no deal here.

No. But I was suggesting SNP under 50 means no independence. You were presumably suggesting that no under 50 means remain.


It’s a lot more complicated that that in Scotland.


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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 11:23 pm 
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RodneyRegis wrote:
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Thornberry moves for the leadership from here.


She is a thundercunot.

Speaking of which, here's Alistair.

She’s taken cheap shots tonight by her shadow secretary too.

She either succeeds or labour “might” pivot towards the BXP.

Something must give for them to win again.


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Soubry-country...
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Broxtowe (East Midlands) result:

Brex: 35.9% (+35.9)
LDem: 20.9% (+14.5)
Grn: 13.5% (+5.7)
Lab: 12.1% (-14.4)
Con: 8.9% (-15.2)
ChUK: 4.7% (+4.7)
UKIP: 4.0% (-27.0)


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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 11:24 pm 
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Rugby2023 wrote:
Soubry-country...
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Broxtowe (East Midlands) result:

Brex: 35.9% (+35.9)
LDem: 20.9% (+14.5)
Grn: 13.5% (+5.7)
Lab: 12.1% (-14.4)
Con: 8.9% (-15.2)
ChUK: 4.7% (+4.7)
UKIP: 4.0% (-27.0)

How joyful.

I can’t stand her.


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Wendigo7 wrote:
nardol wrote:
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What planet is Thornberry on when she says that the country isn't for a No Deal :?

Brexit Party is for a No Deal. Brexit Party is sweeping the floor with the competition. It's that simple.


Only getting one third of the vote .... One third is less than fifty percent

Even less for other options on a party by party basis gives them legitimacy.

Greens lib Dems snp plaid only parties that are fully remain

Cons and labour a over shop so you can't equate a vote for them to anything really.... ?


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Time for someone to go back to his Welsh lessons.... :uhoh:


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bimboman wrote:
iarmhiman wrote:
bimboman wrote:
iarmhiman wrote:
Sun Tzu wrote:
To summarise:

- Farage wins in UK.
- Le Pen wins in France
- Salvini wins in Italy.
- Orban wins in Hungary.
- Right wing surging in Sweden.


Doesn't take any votes from EPP or ALDE or greens . With the greens doing brilliant all over Europe that will ensure the Pro EU coalition controls the EU parliament for another 5 years.



“Control” ....


And there it is from Bimbo for another night.



Brexit will happen, out right racist parties in s9me countries are surging, and you bleat on about 5 years of control.


Don't give a fudge about Brexit. When you're gone you can't influence shit in the EU parliament.

As for the far right parties. They still don't have the numbers even with their increases.


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So Wales went Brexit Party...?



On 32% of the vote? FPTP really warps you Brits perception of electoral reality.



It’s a party that didn’t exist 6 weeks ago.


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Votes for EPP, ALDE and S&D


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As for the far right parties. They still don't have the numbers even with their increases.



Yep, see how the voters feel in 5 years.

It’s worrying.


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Regarding Wales, the big YouGov estimate said 2 for Brexit, 1 for Labour, 1 for Plaid.

Well predicted


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nardol wrote:
Wendigo7 wrote:
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What planet is Thornberry on when she says that the country isn't for a No Deal :?

Brexit Party is for a No Deal. Brexit Party is sweeping the floor with the competition. It's that simple.


Only getting one third of the vote .... One third is less than fifty percent

Even less for other options on a party by party basis gives them legitimacy.

Greens lib Dems snp plaid only parties that are fully remain

Cons and labour a over shop so you can't equate a vote for them to anything really.... ?


Tories are a leave party


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Pretty clear the Tories need to get Brexit over the line before the next GE otherwise Farage will cripple them


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