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 Post subject: Re: Boks 2019 RWC fred
PostPosted: Thu May 23, 2019 4:15 pm 
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'How much can a player change after a stint in the north'

Look at Will Skelton, in Saracens cup final. Then compare that to the kak who played in Australia.


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 Post subject: Re: Boks 2019 RWC fred
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Faf/Cobus/Jantjies
Pollard/ Bosch
AE/ Duh
Am/Kriel
Nkosi/ Mapimpi/Dyanti
Willie/Gelant

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 Post subject: Re: Boks 2019 RWC fred
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Faf/Cobus/Jantjies
Pollard/ Bosch
AE/ Duh
Am/Kriel
Nkosi/ Mapimpi/Dyanti
Willie/Gelant

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Looks weak, to many Sharks.


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 Post subject: Re: Boks 2019 RWC fred
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Sards wrote:
Faf/Cobus/Jantjies
Pollard/ Bosch
AE/ Duh
Am/Kriel
Nkosi/ Mapimpi/Dyanti
Willie/Gelant

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Leyds
Kolbe


What is this?


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 Post subject: Re: Boks 2019 RWC fred
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Sards wrote:
Faf/Cobus/Jantjies
Pollard/ Bosch
AE/ Duh
Am/Kriel
Nkosi/ Mapimpi/Dyanti
Willie/Gelant

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Leyds
Kolbe


What is this?

Captain Dipshit's starting backline and 2nd in line


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 Post subject: Re: Boks 2019 RWC fred
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Sards wrote:
Faf/Cobus/Jantjies
Pollard/ Bosch
AE/ Duh
Am/Kriel
Nkosi/ Mapimpi/Dyanti
Willie/Gelant

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Leyds
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That tight 5 will get destroyed.


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 Post subject: Re: Boks 2019 RWC fred
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assfly wrote:
Sards wrote:
Faf/Cobus/Jantjies
Pollard/ Bosch
AE/ Duh
Am/Kriel
Nkosi/ Mapimpi/Dyanti
Willie/Gelant

Utility back
Leyds
Kolbe


That tight 5 will get destroyed.


:lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Boks 2019 RWC fred
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Big Nipper wrote:
sorCrer wrote:
Sards wrote:
Faf/Cobus/Jantjies
Pollard/ Bosch
AE/ Duh
Am/Kriel
Nkosi/ Mapimpi/Dyanti
Willie/Gelant

Utility back
Leyds
Kolbe


What is this?

Captain legdrives starting backline and 2nd in line


Thank goodness one of you lot has some brains


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 Post subject: Re: Boks 2019 RWC fred
PostPosted: Mon May 27, 2019 7:03 pm 
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assfly wrote:
Sards wrote:
Faf/Cobus/Jantjies
Pollard/ Bosch
AE/ Duh
Am/Kriel
Nkosi/ Mapimpi/Dyanti
Willie/Gelant

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Leyds
Kolbe


That tight 5 will get destroyed.


:lol:

:lol: :lol: Superstar at lock


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 Post subject: Re: Boks 2019 RWC fred
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You know what.....I like Superstar....it has the right ring to it....
He is the Freddie Mercury of flyhalves...The Elton John of X factor.

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Let all the haters begin hating...


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 Post subject: Re: Boks 2019 RWC fred
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Sards wrote:
He is the Freddie Mercury of flyhalves...The Elton John of X factor.



Wait until Israel Folau finds out :shock:


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 Post subject: Re: Boks 2019 RWC fred
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assfly wrote:
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He is the Freddie Mercury of flyhalves...The Elton John of X factor.



Wait until Israel Folau finds out :shock:

:lol: :lol: :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Boks 2019 RWC fred
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Jens? Retired to the Cape and suips too much these days.


That explains a lot!


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 Post subject: Re: Boks 2019 RWC fred
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assfly wrote:
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He is the Freddie Mercury of flyhalves...The Elton John of X factor.



Wait until Israel Folau finds out :shock:


:lol:

Dude...I have seen him swing the ball both ways....


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 Post subject: Re: Boks 2019 RWC fred
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It doesn't help when players who couldn't even make a SR squad get national call-ups overseas.

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Scotland head coach Gregor Townsend on Tuesday completed the national team’s training squad in preparation for Rugby World Cup 2019, with the selection of uncapped Glasgow Warriors pair Scott Cummings and Kyle Steyn

https://rugby365.com/tournaments/world-cup/news-world-cup/former-griquas-captain-added-to-scots-world-cup-training-squad


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 Post subject: Re: Boks 2019 RWC fred
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It doesn't help when players who couldn't even make a SR squad get national call-ups overseas.

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Scotland head coach Gregor Townsend on Tuesday completed the national team’s training squad in preparation for Rugby World Cup 2019, with the selection of uncapped Glasgow Warriors pair Scott Cummings and Kyle Steyn

https://rugby365.com/tournaments/world-cup/news-world-cup/former-griquas-captain-added-to-scots-world-cup-training-squad


Amazing. He went to Trinity House in Joburg, whom my old school used to play in rugby (we were shit and we used to thump them).

Further evidence of the gap in coaching between SA and the rest of the world.


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 Post subject: Re: Boks 2019 RWC fred
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It doesn't help when players who couldn't even make a SR squad get national call-ups overseas.

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Scotland head coach Gregor Townsend on Tuesday completed the national team’s training squad in preparation for Rugby World Cup 2019, with the selection of uncapped Glasgow Warriors pair Scott Cummings and Kyle Steyn

https://rugby365.com/tournaments/world-cup/news-world-cup/former-griquas-captain-added-to-scots-world-cup-training-squad


Amazing. He went to Trinity House in Joburg, whom my old school used to play in rugby (we were shit and we used to thump them).

Further evidence of the gap in coaching between SA and the rest of the world.


Hey I am not so sure assfly.....if the parents create the right enviroment for their kids there is always opurtunity....

Here in the Cape there are fantastic structures in place for encouraging children to excel...and if you go the extra mile with coaching clinics run by ex players off season the kids get great one on one experience to develop basic skills...and its really not expensive and keeps the kids in touch and out of mischief and creates a great bond in the team enviroment.

Usually there are a group of coaches in the area that service an area and if you connect with them you can be a part of it....

There I cannot fault the Western Cape and its no surprise the kids are so competitive...


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 Post subject: Re: Boks 2019 RWC fred
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Hey I am not so sure assfly.....if the parents create the right enviroment for their kids there is always opurtunity....

Here in the Cape there are fantastic structures in place for encouraging children to excel...and if you go the extra mile with coaching clinics run by ex players off season the kids get great one on one experience to develop basic skills...and its really not expensive and keeps the kids in touch and out of mischief and creates a great bond in the team enviroment.

Usually there are a group of coaches in the area that service an area and if you connect with them you can be a part of it....

There I cannot fault the Western Cape and its no surprise the kids are so competitive...


Agreed on all of that, sorry I was referring more to the senior rugby and how a guy who can't get the nod for a SR team can still get selected for another national team for a world cup.


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 Post subject: Re: Boks 2019 RWC fred
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It doesn't help when players who couldn't even make a SR squad get national call-ups overseas.

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Scotland head coach Gregor Townsend on Tuesday completed the national team’s training squad in preparation for Rugby World Cup 2019, with the selection of uncapped Glasgow Warriors pair Scott Cummings and Kyle Steyn

https://rugby365.com/tournaments/world-cup/news-world-cup/former-griquas-captain-added-to-scots-world-cup-training-squad


Amazing. He went to Trinity House in Joburg, whom my old school used to play in rugby (we were shit and we used to thump them).

Further evidence of the gap in coaching between SA and the rest of the world.


Hey I am not so sure assfly.....if the parents create the right enviroment for their kids there is always opurtunity....

Here in the Cape there are fantastic structures in place for encouraging children to excel...and if you go the extra mile with coaching clinics run by ex players off season the kids get great one on one experience to develop basic skills...and its really not expensive and keeps the kids in touch and out of mischief and creates a great bond in the team enviroment.

Usually there are a group of coaches in the area that service an area and if you connect with them you can be a part of it....

There I cannot fault the Western Cape and its no surprise the kids are so competitive...

About 60% of schools in the WC play rugby compared to less than 10% in the rest of the country (Gauteng it's about 5%). Most clubs outside the WC don't offer youth rugby (not sure about the WC) and there is no youth club rugby league


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 Post subject: Re: Boks 2019 RWC fred
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About 60% of schools in the WC play rugby compared to less than 10% in the rest of the country (Gauteng it's about 5%). Most clubs outside the WC don't offer youth rugby (not sure about the WC) and there is no youth club rugby league


Its a bit difficult in the Western Cape after the drought...Rugby really churns up the fields and pretty quickly you get a sand pit.......

My kid played hockey and cricket on some of the fields that are multi purpose....when they hit the ball it just sticks in te sand...so unless you lift it it goes nowhere....

I love watching those of this parish that have kids playing rugby, other sports and cricket on vliesboek...the like of our honourable assfly, our funny as hell mod Thomas from Australia and of course our very own Paarlbok and his chicken runners


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 Post subject: Re: Boks 2019 RWC fred
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The squad includes two uncapped players, Mike Haley and Jean Kleyn, while Leinster duo Sean O’Brien and Dan Leavy are left out due to injury.

https://rugby365.com/countries/ireland/former-stormers-star-in-ireland-world-cup-squad


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 Post subject: Re: Boks 2019 RWC fred
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SARU has appointed a Manager of Hugs and Kisses for the Boks

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a new role that has been created for the Springboks in this World Cup year, with Eugene Henning – the CEO of MyPlayers – appointed to look after player affairs and welfare

https://www.sarugbymag.co.za/addressing-the-human-element/


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SARU has appointed a Manager of Hugs and Kisses for the Boks


Not Kolisi's wife?


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The squad includes two uncapped players, Mike Haley and Jean Kleyn, while Leinster duo Sean O’Brien and Dan Leavy are left out due to injury.

https://rugby365.com/countries/ireland/former-stormers-star-in-ireland-world-cup-squad

Good to see Jean Kleyn is going to places after his injuries. Good luck to him.


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 Post subject: Re: Boks 2019 RWC fred
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The squad includes two uncapped players, Mike Haley and Jean Kleyn, while Leinster duo Sean O’Brien and Dan Leavy are left out due to injury.

https://rugby365.com/countries/ireland/former-stormers-star-in-ireland-world-cup-squad

Ireland's coaching staff is amazing that they can be that good playing with average players like Kleyn.


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 Post subject: Re: Boks 2019 RWC fred
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assfly wrote:
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SARU has appointed a Manager of Hugs and Kisses for the Boks


Not Kolisi's wife?

Rassie isn't up to copying Ackers's methods so he appointed someone to do it for him :)


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SARU has appointed a Manager of Hugs and Kisses for the Boks


Not Kolisi's wife?

Rassie isn't up to copying Ackers's methods so he appointed someone to do it for him :)


Just remember Rassies mandate includes the 7s and Under 20s ....


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SARU has appointed a Manager of Hugs and Kisses for the Boks


Not Kolisi's wife?

Rassie isn't up to copying Ackers's methods so he appointed someone to do it for him :)

You mean assaulting elderly people like Britz?


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 Post subject: Re: Boks 2019 RWC fred
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Eben Etzebeth’s readiness for the Springbok Test season is in jeopardy after he reportedly broke his hand on Saturday while on duty for the Stormers against the Lions at Ellis Park.

With the Capetonians having recovered from an early Lions onslaught to reduce the deficit to 13-10 at halftime, they were dealt a major blow as Etzebeth did not come out for the second half.

https://www.iol.co.za/sport/rugby/super-rugby/eben-etzebeth-suspected-to-have-broken-his-hand-in-stormers-v-lions-24688402


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That's the biggest worry. Injuries now.


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That's the biggest worry. Injuries now.



https://www.rugbypass.com/news/springbo ... ury-scare/

How long does it take to recover from a broken hand. The world cup is not until September.

South Africa seem to be blessed at lock. De Jager, Snyman, Mostert (and Etzebeth).

I don't actually think they would miss Etzebeth as much as people think?

Who would be the replacement if Etzebeth misses out? I would guess Ruan Botha


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OomPB wrote:
That's the biggest worry. Injuries now.



https://www.rugbypass.com/news/springbo ... ury-scare/

How long does it take to recover from a broken hand. The world cup is not until September.

South Africa seem to be blessed at lock. De Jager, Snyman, Mostert (and Etzebeth).

I don't actually think they would miss Etzebeth as much as people think?

Who would be the replacement if Etzebeth misses out? I would guess Ruan Botha

Botha is a #5. RG, PSdT or even Mostert might move to 4, they can play all there. Might be RG's best chance to get a regular spot as Sous and Lood are the first choice #5s


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Afrikaans newspaper Rapport indicated on Sunday that Stormers scrumhalf Herschel Jantjies could get a national call-up.

The 23-year-old Jantjies has been a standout performer for the Stormers this season and looks set to be rewarded.

The report added that Jantjies is currently preferred to the Bulls scrumhalf duo of Embrose Papier and Ivan van Zyl, who made their Springbok debuts last season.

Jantjies may even start against the Wallabies on July 20, with the report adding that incumbent scrumhalf Faf de Klerk will only be considered for the Test against the All Blacks in Wellington on July 27.

England-based Cobus Reinach (Northampton Saints) and Francois Hougaard (Worcester Warriors), are reportedly also part of the discussion.

The report added that French-based centre Frans Steyn could also face the Wallabies, with regular midfielder Damian de Allende rested. The 32-year-old Steyn played the last of his 56 Tests in 2017.

https://www.sport24.co.za/Rugby/Springboks/boks-to-shock-with-jantjies-at-scrumhalf-20190603


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Afrikaans newspaper Rapport indicated on Sunday that Stormers scrumhalf Herschel Jantjies could get a national call-up.

The 23-year-old Jantjies has been a standout performer for the Stormers this season and looks set to be rewarded.

The report added that Jantjies is currently preferred to the Bulls scrumhalf duo of Embrose Papier and Ivan van Zyl, who made their Springbok debuts last season.

Jantjies may even start against the Wallabies on July 20, with the report adding that incumbent scrumhalf Faf de Klerk will only be considered for the Test against the All Blacks in Wellington on July 27.

England-based Cobus Reinach (Northampton Saints) and Francois Hougaard (Worcester Warriors), are reportedly also part of the discussion.

The report added that French-based centre Frans Steyn could also face the Wallabies, with regular midfielder Damian de Allende rested. The 32-year-old Steyn played the last of his 56 Tests in 2017.

https://www.sport24.co.za/Rugby/Springboks/boks-to-shock-with-jantjies-at-scrumhalf-20190603

He's been the best 9 in SA this season by quite some distance. :thumbup:


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He's been the best 9 in SA this season by quite some distance. :thumbup:

Maybe he just stands out because the other teams play conservative scrummies who can also kick?

Bulls - Ivan
Sharks - Schreuder
Lions - Ross and Groom


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He's been the best 9 in SA this season by quite some distance. :thumbup:

Maybe he just stand out because the other teams play conservative scrummies who can also kick?

Bulls - Ivan
Sharks - Schreuder
Lions - Ross and Groom

The above would fall under the "average to kak" category


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He's been the best 9 in SA this season by quite some distance. :thumbup:

Maybe he just stand out because the other teams play conservative scrummies who can also kick?

Bulls - Ivan
Sharks - Schreuder
Lions - Ross and Groom

The above would fall under the "average to kak" category

Doesn't change the fact that they can kick, Jantjies not so much.

But Rassie has shown he likes some flash in players


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Jensrsa wrote:
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He's been the best 9 in SA this season by quite some distance. :thumbup:

Maybe he just stand out because the other teams play conservative scrummies who can also kick?

Bulls - Ivan
Sharks - Schreuder
Lions - Ross and Groom

The above would fall under the "average to kak" category

Doesn't change the fact that they can kick, Jantjies not so much.

But Rassie has shown he likes some flash in players

In some cases. Then you have DDA, AE, and Kriel that debunks that mindset in the midfield :lol:


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Jantjies is by far our best 9. Dunno why you call him flashy?


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 Post subject: Re: Boks 2019 RWC fred
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Jantjies is by far our best 9. Dunno why you call him flashy?

He's made some great sniping runs and scored some good tries but his passing can be wild, putting his #10 under pressure, and his kicking is often inaccurate. Saw this again over the weekend

Like Faf his game needs to mature before he will be good enough for the Boks. This year is too early

Papier has all the same attributes but now it seems even the Bulls have relegated him to a squad player, not even on the bench


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