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Will Ma'a Nonu force his way back into the All Blacks?

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:24 am
by Ali's Choice
I say no. He was arguably our greatest ever no.12, but time catches up to all men eventually. He'll be 37 years old by the time the next AB squad is named, and that's just too old for a midfielder to be effective at the highest level. Especially as he's been playing easy rugby for the past three years, which is slower and less skilful than Super or Test Rugby. I know players like Brad Thorn were still world class at that age, but the physical requirements for a tight forward are significantly different to that of a backline player.

I just hope that Ma'a Nonu enjoys a strong season for the Blues, and brings the best out of Sonny Bill Williams.

Re: Will Ma'a Nonu force his way back into the All Blacks?

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:37 am
by Ghost-Of-Nepia
No. Should be a short thread.

Re: Will Ma'a Nonu force his way back into the All Blacks?

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:44 am
by Ali's Choice
Ghost-Of-Nepia wrote:No. Should be a short thread.
There are a few rabid Nonu fans around the internet who are optimistic about his chances of a test recall. The fact that SBW played like a busted flush last year has no doubt fueled this optimism.

Re: Will Ma'a Nonu force his way back into the All Blacks?

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:49 am
by Dark
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Thanks AC

This thread made my day

Re: Will Ma'a Nonu force his way back into the All Blacks?

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:54 am
by ScarfaceClaw
Ali's Choice wrote:
Ghost-Of-Nepia wrote:No. Should be a short thread.
There are a few rabid Nonu fans around the internet who are optimistic about his chances of a test recall. The fact that SBW played like a busted flush last year has no doubt fueled this optimism.
Douche Chilli will be firing up his web browser any second.

Re: Will Ma'a Nonu force his way back into the All Blacks?

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:55 am
by Ali's Choice
Dark wrote::lol: :lol: :lol:

Thanks AC

This thread made my day
I'm not sure if that is a reflection on this thread, or the quality of your day? :?

Re: Will Ma'a Nonu force his way back into the All Blacks?

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:00 am
by Ali's Choice
ScarfaceClaw wrote:
Ali's Choice wrote:
Ghost-Of-Nepia wrote:No. Should be a short thread.
There are a few rabid Nonu fans around the internet who are optimistic about his chances of a test recall. The fact that SBW played like a busted flush last year has no doubt fueled this optimism.
Douche Chilli will be firing up his web browser any second.
Whatever happened to douche_chill? He was annoying sure, but his feigned devotion to SBW was amusing at times. In saying that if memory serves me right, wasn't he a rabid Nonu fan prior to 2015, and then he was forced to 'switch' his adoration to SBW once Nonu moved to easy rugby?

Re: Will Ma'a Nonu force his way back into the All Blacks?

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:38 am
by Tehui
Ali's Choice wrote:
ScarfaceClaw wrote:
Ali's Choice wrote:
Ghost-Of-Nepia wrote:No. Should be a short thread.
There are a few rabid Nonu fans around the internet who are optimistic about his chances of a test recall. The fact that SBW played like a busted flush last year has no doubt fueled this optimism.
Douche Chilli will be firing up his web browser any second.
Whatever happened to douche_chill? He was annoying sure, but his feigned devotion to SBW was amusing at times. In saying that if memory serves me right, wasn't he a rabid Nonu fan prior to 2015, and then he was forced to 'switch' his adoration to SBW once Nonu moved to easy rugby?
He lost a flounce bet and has been in cyber exile. My favourite fanboy comment of his was when he said SBW was "the best defender in the galaxy". I didn't know whether SBW was a rugby player or one of the Avengers.

Re: Will Ma'a Nonu force his way back into the All Blacks?

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 1:28 pm
by Toro
Didn't see this posted anywhere but caught it on fb this morning.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/sup ... lack-again
First things first. Ma'a Nonu wants to be an All Black again.

That was the surprisingly frank admission made by the 36-year-old, 103-test double World Cup-winning All Black in his first chat with the media since re-signing with the Blues late last year. Until now, he has turned down all requests to speak to reporters.

Nonu has returned to New Zealand rugby after a near four-year absence playing for Toulon in France and has revealed the motivations that drive him in 2019 as he gets set to run out in Super Rugby for the first time since 2015.

The powerful midfielder, of course, has nothing left to prove at the highest level, having been an important cog in the back-to-back World Cup triumphs in 2011 and '15 and, alongside Conrad Smith, forming arguably the greatest centre pairing in the country's proud test history. His entry into the centurion's club is testimony to the prolonged nature of his excellence at the top of the game.

But he concedes he remains motivated to perform at the highest levels and also has unfinished business in Super Rugby where he has not always been able to produce the level of rugby he has in the black jersey.

Asked, following a Tuesday training session in intense summer heat in Auckland, whether being an All Black again in 2019 was a motivating goal, Nonu did not look to dodge the question. His condition has been the talk of the Blues this pre-season, and it appears he is not about to sell himself short now.

"I think it's there on everyone's minds," he said of the prospect of an unlikely resumption to his test career. "For me it's trying to make the Blues team first, so one step at a time."

That first stride down the path will take place at Eden Park on Saturday night when these re-shaped Blues open their season against back-to-back champions the Crusaders. Nonu looks set to start in the midfield, possibly alongside TJ Faiane.

He was not keen, though, to expand on what playing at a fourth World Cup, and bidding for an unprecedented hat-trick of titles, would mean to him.

"All I'm thinking about is lunch right now and this game this week (against the Crusaders), so I can't really tell you," he said.

And, no, he has not spoken to All Blacks coach Steve Hansen yet this season. Those conversations might come later, if Nonu manages to produce the form that returns him to national team contention.

But Nonu did concede he had things still to prove in Super Rugby that were also big motivators for him this season.

"Yeah, I haven't won a Super Rugby title before, have come up short twice, and played in a lot of semifinals for the Hurricanes. It's another driver this year," he told a large media contingent.

He admitted it was "surreal" to be re-entering the Super Rugby arena after such a long absence, but said finishing his playing career was something that had not yet entered his thinking.

"There are a lot of young players playing, and a lot of great players playing, and I'm stoked to be running around. I haven't thought about stopping. Hopefully I can still play at this level and that's the challenge I'm looking forward to."

Nonu confirmed family had been a big part of his surprise decision to return to the Blues.

"Family has always been a priority, so coming home it was a big factor. We were always going to come back to New Zealand. We missed it here, we missed family and I wanted to put my kids through school here as well."

Asked the secret of his remarkable condition at an age when many players are long past their best, Nonu smiled and said: "I guess it's what you put in your mouth. [The body] hasn't always been in good shape but I've learned with experience about my body and my mind.

"I'm still trying to achieve more goals and it's the lifestyle you live if you want to play professional sport."

He also felt maturity and wisdom would help him overcome the age factor as he went through this return to New Zealand rugby.

"Hopefully I've still got the wisdom upstairs and the physicality as well to play Super Rugby because it's really intense. The Top 14 and Champions Cup is a brutal, brutal competition in Europe, so I've learned a few things about playing week-in, week-out."

Nonu said his former team-mate and mentor Tana Umaga had been an important part of his decision to return via a Blues franchise he played for previously in 2012 and '14 and he thanked the under-achieving Auckland outfit for "opening the door" to him.

All Blacks legend Ma'a Nonu is returning to New Zealand rugby to play for Tana Umaga at the Blues.
He was also excited to team up with Sonny Bill Williams again and mentioned he had been impressed by the standards set by new coach (and another national ex-team-mate) Leon MacDonald.

"Leon has brought a high standard into our environment and created that culture where we train to the best, we expect the best from each other and we work for each other."

They will likely need it Saturday. "It's going to be a tough, tough game," said the All Black great before skipping off to scoff that lunch..

Re: Will Ma'a Nonu force his way back into the All Blacks?

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 1:37 pm
by Auckman
He barely says anything about the All Blacks.

This:
"I think it's there on everyone's minds," he said of the prospect of an unlikely resumption to his test career. "For me it's trying to make the Blues team first, so one step at a time."
....

He was not keen, though, to expand on what playing at a fourth World Cup, and bidding for an unprecedented hat-trick of titles, would mean to him.

"All I'm thinking about is lunch right now and this game this week (against the Crusaders), so I can't really tell you," he said

became this:
Nonu: I want to be an All Black again

Re: Will Ma'a Nonu force his way back into the All Blacks?

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 1:50 pm
by Turbogoat
Auckman wrote:He barely says anything about the All Blacks.

This:
"I think it's there on everyone's minds," he said of the prospect of an unlikely resumption to his test career. "For me it's trying to make the Blues team first, so one step at a time."
....

He was not keen, though, to expand on what playing at a fourth World Cup, and bidding for an unprecedented hat-trick of titles, would mean to him.

"All I'm thinking about is lunch right now and this game this week (against the Crusaders), so I can't really tell you," he said

became this:
Nonu: I want to be an All Black again
I'm shocked that a headline could be so misrepresentative of the content of an article or an interview.

Re: Will Ma'a Nonu force his way back into the All Blacks?

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 1:57 pm
by Kiwias
Turbogoat wrote:
Auckman wrote:He barely says anything about the All Blacks.

This:
"I think it's there on everyone's minds," he said of the prospect of an unlikely resumption to his test career. "For me it's trying to make the Blues team first, so one step at a time."
....

He was not keen, though, to expand on what playing at a fourth World Cup, and bidding for an unprecedented hat-trick of titles, would mean to him.

"All I'm thinking about is lunch right now and this game this week (against the Crusaders), so I can't really tell you," he said

became this:
Nonu: I want to be an All Black again
I'm shocked that a headline could be so misrepresentative of the content of an article or an interview.
It is definitely a case of highly creative editing. :lol: :lol:

Re: Will Ma'a Nonu force his way back into the All Blacks?

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 1:59 pm
by booze
It will be very tempting to include him if he shows some form and fitness.

Nonu was playing his best rugby when he retired from tests. lets see how he holds up throughout the season but he is a tempting proposition especially with the injuries we have had in our midfield.

The AB midfield has had little space against NH teams and this will continue at the world cup.

We dont really have anyone who can consistently threaten or break the gain line because of their size. Crotty cant and sonny bill plays below his weight imo.

someone with his experience could be invaluable between BB and Goodhue

Re: Will Ma'a Nonu force his way back into the All Blacks?

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 2:01 pm
by Yourmother
Auckman wrote:He barely says anything about the All Blacks.

This:
"I think it's there on everyone's minds," he said of the prospect of an unlikely resumption to his test career. "For me it's trying to make the Blues team first, so one step at a time."
....

He was not keen, though, to expand on what playing at a fourth World Cup, and bidding for an unprecedented hat-trick of titles, would mean to him.

"All I'm thinking about is lunch right now and this game this week (against the Crusaders), so I can't really tell you," he said

became this:
Nonu: I want to be an All Black again
That certainly is quite the leap.

Re: Will Ma'a Nonu force his way back into the All Blacks?

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 2:20 pm
by Nieghorn
"Leon has brought a high standard into our environment and created that culture where we train to the best, we expect the best from each other and we work for each other."
Cliche meter is pinging loudly!