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Date: 23/02/19

KO: 16:45 GMT

Total number of games: 131
England wins: 62
Wales wins: 58
Drawn: 12
5/6 Nations titles: Wales 26 England 28
World Cup winners: Wales 1 England 1

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 12:48 pm 
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A lorra lorra English confidence going into this one from both fans and the pundits.


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 12:50 pm 
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I predict some kicks, and some hairy arsed heavy people running hard and straight.


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 12:51 pm 
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Carwyn wrote:
A lorra lorra English confidence going into this one from both fans and the pundits.


Nope, we are nervous about this one. We know Wales at home are very hard to beat


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Carwyn wrote:
A lorra lorra English confidence going into this one from both fans and the pundits.

Understandable, for a change.
Personally, i think either one team or the other will win it.


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blindcider wrote:
Carwyn wrote:
A lorra lorra English confidence going into this one from both fans and the pundits.


Nope, we are nervous about this one. We know Wales at home are very hard to beat


The mask of humility is fooling no one


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 12:55 pm 
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P in VG wrote:
blindcider wrote:
Carwyn wrote:
A lorra lorra English confidence going into this one from both fans and the pundits.


Nope, we are nervous about this one. We know Wales at home are very hard to beat


The mask of humility is fooling no one


No mask here, always get very nervous watching England teams of any stripe - there's always a good chance of a 'batting collapse' striking at any time


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Carwyn wrote:
A lorra lorra English confidence going into this one from both fans and the pundits.


Nah - according to your coach Wales are 'poles apart' from where England are.


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Carwyn wrote:
A lorra lorra English confidence going into this one from both fans and the pundits.


I would go so far as
A surprised feeling that we might give Wales a game this time round

Looking forward to it, may not feel the same immediately before kick off


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I would floss with Katherine Jenkins bikini elastic , after she’s gone for a run on the beach


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No refs for this game apparently - could get a bit spicy. The English bird is a solid 7 if you live in Newcastle. The Welsh bird is not from Wales surely?


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Carwyn wrote:
A lorra lorra English confidence going into this one from both fans and the pundits.

And the bookies. England are very strong, odd-on favourites for this one. I don't know whether it's that unlikely that Wales will win, but after two such shambolic games it's hard to have much faith in them completely turning their game around.


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Da iawn diolch wrote:
Carwyn wrote:
A lorra lorra English confidence going into this one from both fans and the pundits.

And the bookies. England are very strong, odd-on favourites for this one. I don't know whether it's that unlikely that Wales will win, but after two such shambolic games it's hard to have much faith in them completely turning their game around.


Took a look at the odds this morning and England were slight favourites - no real value in backing either side 8/5 vs 8/13 IIRC


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No refs for this game apparently - could get a bit spicy. The English bird is a solid 7 if you live in Newcastle. The Welsh bird is not from Wales surely?


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blindcider wrote:
Da iawn diolch wrote:
Carwyn wrote:
A lorra lorra English confidence going into this one from both fans and the pundits.

And the bookies. England are very strong, odd-on favourites for this one. I don't know whether it's that unlikely that Wales will win, but after two such shambolic games it's hard to have much faith in them completely turning their game around.


Took a look at the odds this morning and England were slight favourites - no real value in backing either side 8/5 vs 8/13 IIRC

Oddschecker tells me that England are close to 2/1 on with most bookies. I wouldn't say that's "slight".


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 1:07 pm 
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Let's hope that 2 very unconvincing victories are all radar dodging tactics by Gatland.


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Let's hope that 2 very unconvincing victories are all radar dodging tactics by Gatland.

I'd really love that to be true.


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Da iawn diolch wrote:
Carwyn wrote:
A lorra lorra English confidence going into this one from both fans and the pundits.

And the bookies. England are very strong, odd-on favourites for this one. I don't know whether it's that unlikely that Wales will win, but after two such shambolic games it's hard to have much faith in them completely turning their game around.


They're on a run of 11 consecutive wins and playing England - they'll be up for it. Worse Welsh sides have beaten better English sides than this.


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Carwyn wrote:
yiman wrote:
No refs for this game apparently - could get a bit spicy. The English bird is a solid 7 if you live in Newcastle. The Welsh bird is not from Wales surely?


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I always suspected that Jako was of English descent.


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Da iawn diolch wrote:
Carwyn wrote:
A lorra lorra English confidence going into this one from both fans and the pundits.

And the bookies. England are very strong, odd-on favourites for this one. I don't know whether it's that unlikely that Wales will win, but after two such shambolic games it's hard to have much faith in them completely turning their game around.


They're on a run of 11 consecutive wins and playing England - they'll be up for it. Worse Welsh sides have beaten better English sides than this.

Probably the victory with the solitary Ieuan try in 93, when Crickhowell's son Dewi Morriss's try was disallowed (for England, BTW - don't be fooled by the name or place of birth)


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Whilst the average English lady may resemble Vicky Pollard
It's a crying shame to miss an opportunity to post everyone's favourite English Rugby lady singer: Laura Wright :thumbup:

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Must have Welsh blood.


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I don't think it's a mask of humility, just an awareness that in the last two games England have taken advantage of weaknesses in their opponents game that aren't necessarily their in the Welsh game; the Welsh back three isn't as toilet as the French, and they'll kick better than Sexton/Murray did in Dublin.

I also think the English attack didn't look great once it had to start going through the phases - it all became a little aimless & side to side.

The betting markets reflect the money, so I've got no doubt there's plenty of money going on England, but in reality I think it could go either way.


edit: Holy mother of fudge, could you post a bigger picture please?


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I think the picture size looks just about Wright


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Plastic Sarrie wrote:
I don't think it's a mask of humility, just an awareness that in the last two games England have taken advantage of weaknesses in their opponents game that aren't necessarily their in the Welsh game; the Welsh back three isn't as toilet as the French, and they'll kick better than Sexton/Murray did in Dublin.

I also think the English attack didn't look great once it had to start going through the phases - it all became a little aimless & side to side.

The betting markets reflect the money, so I've got no doubt there's plenty of money going on England, but in reality I think it could go either way.


edit: Holy mother of fudge, could you post a bigger picture please?

That's a pretty fair assessment. I just don't know whether Wales are capable of lifting their game to the kind of intensity required to beat England. So far we've only come close to that for 30min of the second half in Paris, and the rest has been an absolute aimless shambles.


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Bowler hats rather flat caps, hubris rather humility.
Sickening form from the Tarquins, the level of faux mockers makes we want to puke.
England have vast monetary and player resources, the envy of the World.
It's like a hydra where players are concerned lose a couple of heads and even more sprout to replace them.
I'm backing England for the 6N, they have been impervious thus far.
Even Globus would have watched the games from the comfort of his sofa with G&T in hand and a vast array of Cheroots for an after match smoke and Cognac.


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Bowler hats rather flat caps, hubris rather humility.
Sickening form from the Tarquins, the level of faux mockers makes we want to puke.
England have vast monetary and player resources, the envy of the World.
It's like a hydra where players are concerned lose a couple of heads and even more sprout to replace them.
I'm backing England for the 6N, they have been impervious thus far.
Even Globus would have watched the games from the comfort of his sofa with G&T in hand and a vast array of Cheroots for an after match smoke and Cognac.

True, except that Globus gave up spirits years ago - he's a winer now. (whiner or winner?)


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Must have Welsh blood.



:nod:


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Carwyn wrote:
A lorra lorra English confidence going into this one from both fans and the pundits.


I was confident for England until I learnt that Wales had forgotten how to lose


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Rather than my analysis of the game, I'll post some more pictures of Laura Wright :proud:

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Can't see how we win tbh.

We will lose the gain line battle all day long unless England lose Billy and half of their lack in the next 2 weeks and we no longer have the ability to run round teams.

Plus England have the best winger in the world. Great under the high ball, solid defender, searing pace and an excellent finisher. Only going one way I'm afraid


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You don’t get these kind of threads when we play the All blacks



















































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This thread may go on for many many pages. For us that's a novelty


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Ok, genuine opinion time rather than mocker god BS.

We have momentum, our last couple of games have shown some great performances and we're ranked higher. The weight of expectation is definitely on our shoulders with the media and, I suspect, within camp.

This feels remarkably like the scenario we encountered in reverse in Ireland. Whilst England weren't completely written off, it was close. I think a few pundits were like, "England have a chance" but it wasn't much more generous than a crumb off the table.

What we do know is that Wales can always dig it out of the bag against us and will invariably play better than maybe trends otherwise suggest. Also, it's at home for them, which unlike for some of the SH teams, hasn't exactly been a great hunting ground for us over the years. And even against them, they've been winning in the AIs just there.

If we play to our ability - and we're allowed to play to our ability - I think we've shown we should do enough to win. But will the demonstration of our pretty consistent tactics in two games give Wales enough material to plan to counter it successfully?

I'm deeply nervous about this game - far more than I was for the France game, because I genuinely believed we would find a way over the 80, to win no matter how France played (or how well they might play at certain times in the match). I can't say that if Wales play a smart, tactical game. Gatland proved for the Lions he can deliver a result which was massively against the odds...

It should be a cracking game and highlights why the 6N is just so brilliant. You simply can't write off any of the top 4-5 teams when they play each other!


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This thread may go on for many many pages. For us that's a novelty


I think we’re quite reserved considering our team being the best Welsh team EVER. I thought there would be more of joining the board to share in the inevitable jubilation.


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Ok, genuine opinion time rather than mocker god BS.

We have momentum, our last couple of games have shown some great performances and we're ranked higher. The weight of expectation is definitely on our shoulders with the media and, I suspect, within camp.

If we play to our ability - and we're allowed to play to our ability - I think we've shown we should do enough to win.


There we are. Finally some English honesty.


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Wales have forgotten how to lose. They're going to piss all over us. And that's just the crowd.


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Wales have forgotten how to lose. They're going to piss all over us. And that's just the crowd.

If you are in the lower tier under the posts I'll try from the middle if you'd like


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Carwyn wrote:
pjm1 wrote:
Ok, genuine opinion time rather than mocker god BS.

We have momentum, our last couple of games have shown some great performances and we're ranked higher. The weight of expectation is definitely on our shoulders with the media and, I suspect, within camp.

If we play to our ability - and we're allowed to play to our ability - I think we've shown we should do enough to win.


There we are. Finally some English honesty.


Don't you lot ever get tired of this bullshit?


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Carwyn wrote:
pjm1 wrote:
Ok, genuine opinion time rather than mocker god BS.

We have momentum, our last couple of games have shown some great performances and we're ranked higher. The weight of expectation is definitely on our shoulders with the media and, I suspect, within camp.

If we play to our ability - and we're allowed to play to our ability - I think we've shown we should do enough to win.


There we are. Finally some English honesty.


Don't you lot ever get tired of this bullshit?


No. No. They really don't. 8) :lol:


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