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Mako out - a huge loss for England.


Yeah, bad luck. He was immense against Ireland.


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Mako out - a huge loss for England.


Booooooooo


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Mako out - a huge loss for England.


Yeah, bad luck. He was immense against Ireland.


Out for the whole 6N - b%llocks :(


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tc27 wrote:
Mako out - a huge loss for England.


Damn. That really is a massive blow.


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Devastating news. Was looking forward to 3 Welsh accents in the front row. Now there will only be two


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Mako out - a huge loss for England.


Damn. That really is a massive blow.


A great opportunity for Genge to get the run he missed out on due to injury in the AIs, but a damn shame. With Marler retirement our loosehead stocks are suddenly much lower than they were 6 months ago.

Moon to start, Genge to rampage off the bench and Hepburn into the squad?


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tc27 wrote:
Mako out - a huge loss for England.


Damn. That really is a massive blow.


A great opportunity for Genge to get the run he missed out on due to injury in the AIs, but a damn shame. With Marler retirement our loosehead stocks are suddenly much lower than they were 6 months ago.

Moon to start, Genge to rampage off the bench and Hepburn into the squad?


Is there a more twattish prop pairing than Genge and Sinkler is world rugby? x(


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Is 0.5p going to be match fit? How long since he played?


He's been out since he was 'legally' charged down in the Autumn. You'd have to think that even with a game in his legs this weekend he'd struggle for a game as intense as England in a further week.


The one where the Australian keyboard warriors claim he dived.......


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P in VG wrote:
4071 wrote:
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tc27 wrote:
Mako out - a huge loss for England.


Damn. That really is a massive blow.


A great opportunity for Genge to get the run he missed out on due to injury in the AIs, but a damn shame. With Marler retirement our loosehead stocks are suddenly much lower than they were 6 months ago.

Moon to start, Genge to rampage off the bench and Hepburn into the squad?


Is there a more twattish prop pairing than Genge and Sinkler is world rugby? x(


Samsung Lee and a.n.o.?


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So if 1/2p is back does Bandy drop to the bench?

For this Englishman he is the player I fear the most


If 1/2p plays then you might see North dropped and Liam Williams to wing...it's one possibility. North did score 2 tries against France but got a ticking off from Gatland about his defence for Huget's try.

Has Gatland ever dropped North when he's been fit? I'd be stunned if he didn't start.


Not sure, but with Adams now giving real competition it does become a possibility...if they are concerned about defensive positioning due to England's kicking then 3 guys who have all played 15 and are better under the high ball than North might tempt Gatland. I hope not, but I'm just saying it's a possibility.

I think Adams has been by far the better player, but I'm not Gatland and he has a massive man-crush on North.


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Is 0.5p going to be match fit? How long since he played?


He's been out since he was 'legally' charged down in the Autumn. You'd have to think that even with a game in his legs this weekend he'd struggle for a game as intense as England in a further week.


The one where the Australian keyboard warriors claim he dived.......


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P in VG wrote:

Is there a more twattish prop pairing than Genge and Sinkler is world rugby? x(


Samsung Lee and a.n.o.?


Samson is remarkably restrained given his heritage - doesn't go around happy-slapping people and talking smack like Sinkler that's for sure


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Da iawn diolch wrote:
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So if 1/2p is back does Bandy drop to the bench?

For this Englishman he is the player I fear the most


If 1/2p plays then you might see North dropped and Liam Williams to wing...it's one possibility. North did score 2 tries against France but got a ticking off from Gatland about his defence for Huget's try.

Has Gatland ever dropped North when he's been fit? I'd be stunned if he didn't start.


Not sure, but with Adams now giving real competition it does become a possibility...if they are concerned about defensive positioning due to England's kicking then 3 guys who have all played 15 and are better under the high ball than North might tempt Gatland. I hope not, but I'm just saying it's a possibility.

I think Adams has been by far the better player, but I'm not Gatland and he has a massive man-crush on North.


He seems to do a lot right, and it's not like he's without a creative edge - the try he scored in Argentina and the one he set up for Tomos Williams against France were from very little.


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P in VG wrote:
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P in VG wrote:

Is there a more twattish prop pairing than Genge and Sinkler is world rugby? x(


Samsung Lee and a.n.o.?


Samson is remarkably restrained given his heritage - doesn't go around happy-slapping people and talking smack like Sinkler that's for sure


But he had a stramash with that nice Joe Marler

oh wait......


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Is 0.5p going to be match fit? How long since he played?


He's been out since he was 'legally' charged down in the Autumn. You'd have to think that even with a game in his legs this weekend he'd struggle for a game as intense as England in a further week.


The one where the Australian keyboard warriors claim he dived.......

I reckon he might get a cheeky 20min away in Benetton this weekend, just to make sure he's got his match legs back.


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He seems to do a lot right, and it's not like he's without a creative edge - the try he scored in Argentina and the one he set up for Tomos Williams against France were from very little.

All true and valid, but has Gatland ever picked the smaller man when there's been a choice?


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Sanjay, Josh and North will be our back 3 for sure. Steff as cover as he plays wing and FB


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Sanjay, Josh and North will be our back 3 for sure. Steff as cover as he plays wing and FB

Steff? Hmmm I think not


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Da iawn diolch wrote:
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He seems to do a lot right, and it's not like he's without a creative edge - the try he scored in Argentina and the one he set up for Tomos Williams against France were from very little.

All true and valid, but has Gatland ever picked the smaller man when there's been a choice?


Not even Ickle in his pomp?


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Sanjay, Josh and North will be our back 3 for sure. Steff as cover as he plays wing and FB

Steff? Hmmm I think not


ok (not) Dr Amos then


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Mako out - a huge loss for England.


Damn. That really is a massive blow.


Yeah, crap.

It impacts our defence significantly as well as the heavy carrying, obviously. Offloading game also reduced...

It's getting tougher!


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ManInTheBar wrote:
Da iawn diolch wrote:
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He seems to do a lot right, and it's not like he's without a creative edge - the try he scored in Argentina and the one he set up for Tomos Williams against France were from very little.

All true and valid, but has Gatland ever picked the smaller man when there's been a choice?


Not even Ickle in his pomp?

That might be the one exception that proves the rule.


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Sanjay, Josh and North will be our back 3 for sure. Steff as cover as he plays wing and FB

Steff? Hmmm I think not


ok (not) Dr Amos then

I don't understand why we're discussing either of those. One is playing in the worst top-tier club team in Britain right now, and the other is bench-warming for the Scarlets.
If Halfers is fit, one of the wings (probably Adams) drops to the bench and Liam moves to the wing.


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Da iawn diolch wrote:
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Sanjay, Josh and North will be our back 3 for sure. Steff as cover as he plays wing and FB

Steff? Hmmm I think not


ok (not) Dr Amos then

I don't understand why we're discussing either of those. One is playing in the worst top-tier club team in Britain right now, and the other is bench-warming for the Scarlets.
If Halfers is fit, one of the wings (probably Adams) drops to the bench and Liam moves to the wing.


I've bolded the operational words there........he's playing his first game for months on the weekend. To go straight in against the Saes who will employ of targeting the fella is stark raving lunacy.

Also using your logic Wainwright shouldn't get a look in as he plays at the Dragons. If we use the logic of our regions form nobody would get a game in fact


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Da iawn diolch wrote:
Copied from another thread, the random musings I have about this game...

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- Wales under Gatland are good at getting themselves up for big matches
- Wales have looked bad in two terrible games, but they can't possibly be that bad again
- England haven't always been amazing in Cardiff under pressure

Cons
- The bookies have made England the odds-on favourites
- England have already beaten a tougher opposition away
- England are getting stability among form players/combinations
- England's recent record vs Wales is very good

Overall, it has potential to be a great match, and one that I always traditionally look forward to (as a Welshman in England). If both teams play as well as they can, it will be a close game. However, based on tournament form so far, I'd be very surprised if England didn't win.

Charmingly naive.


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Frodder wrote:
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Sanjay, Josh and North will be our back 3 for sure. Steff as cover as he plays wing and FB

Steff? Hmmm I think not


ok (not) Dr Amos then

I don't understand why we're discussing either of those. One is playing in the worst top-tier club team in Britain right now, and the other is bench-warming for the Scarlets.
If Halfers is fit, one of the wings (probably Adams) drops to the bench and Liam moves to the wing.


I've bolded the operational words there........he's playing his first game for months on the weekend. To go straight in against the Saes who will employ of targeting the fella is stark raving lunacy.

Also using your logic Wainwright shouldn't get a look in as he plays at the Dragons. If we use the logic of our regions form nobody would get a game in fact

A fair point, but I think you'd need to look at someone with significant international pedigree (i.e. a Moriarty) if you're stooping as low as picking from the Dragons.


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bessantj wrote:
Da iawn diolch wrote:
Copied from another thread, the random musings I have about this game...

Pros
- Wales under Gatland are good at getting themselves up for big matches
- Wales have looked bad in two terrible games, but they can't possibly be that bad again
- England haven't always been amazing in Cardiff under pressure

Cons
- The bookies have made England the odds-on favourites
- England have already beaten a tougher opposition away
- England are getting stability among form players/combinations
- England's recent record vs Wales is very good

Overall, it has potential to be a great match, and one that I always traditionally look forward to (as a Welshman in England). If both teams play as well as they can, it will be a close game. However, based on tournament form so far, I'd be very surprised if England didn't win.

Charmingly naive.

Hope springs eternal. We must get our shit together at some point this year.


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Da iawn diolch wrote:
bessantj wrote:
Da iawn diolch wrote:
Copied from another thread, the random musings I have about this game...

Pros
- Wales under Gatland are good at getting themselves up for big matches
- Wales have looked bad in two terrible games, but they can't possibly be that bad again
- England haven't always been amazing in Cardiff under pressure

Cons
- The bookies have made England the odds-on favourites
- England have already beaten a tougher opposition away
- England are getting stability among form players/combinations
- England's recent record vs Wales is very good

Overall, it has potential to be a great match, and one that I always traditionally look forward to (as a Welshman in England). If both teams play as well as they can, it will be a close game. However, based on tournament form so far, I'd be very surprised if England didn't win.

Charmingly naive.

Hope springs eternal. We must get our shit together at some point this year.


Why must we, there’s no universal balance of playing shit twice thus we’re owed two good games. When we’re shit we’re shit.


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Plato'sCave wrote:
Da iawn diolch wrote:
bessantj wrote:
Da iawn diolch wrote:
Copied from another thread, the random musings I have about this game...

Pros
- Wales under Gatland are good at getting themselves up for big matches
- Wales have looked bad in two terrible games, but they can't possibly be that bad again
- England haven't always been amazing in Cardiff under pressure

Cons
- The bookies have made England the odds-on favourites
- England have already beaten a tougher opposition away
- England are getting stability among form players/combinations
- England's recent record vs Wales is very good

Overall, it has potential to be a great match, and one that I always traditionally look forward to (as a Welshman in England). If both teams play as well as they can, it will be a close game. However, based on tournament form so far, I'd be very surprised if England didn't win.

Charmingly naive.

Hope springs eternal. We must get our shit together at some point this year.


Why must we, there’s no universal balance of playing shit twice thus we’re owed two good games. When we’re shit we’re shit.


Shit and on a record-equalling winning streak...! :roll:


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Plato'sCave wrote:
Da iawn diolch wrote:
bessantj wrote:
Da iawn diolch wrote:
Copied from another thread, the random musings I have about this game...

Pros
- Wales under Gatland are good at getting themselves up for big matches
- Wales have looked bad in two terrible games, but they can't possibly be that bad again
- England haven't always been amazing in Cardiff under pressure

Cons
- The bookies have made England the odds-on favourites
- England have already beaten a tougher opposition away
- England are getting stability among form players/combinations
- England's recent record vs Wales is very good

Overall, it has potential to be a great match, and one that I always traditionally look forward to (as a Welshman in England). If both teams play as well as they can, it will be a close game. However, based on tournament form so far, I'd be very surprised if England didn't win.

Charmingly naive.

Hope springs eternal. We must get our shit together at some point this year.


Why must we, there’s no universal balance of playing shit twice thus we’re owed two good games. When we’re shit we’re shit.

But you won't be shit against England and, having forgotten how to lose, it makes no difference if you are.


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Why won’t we be shit against England, we’ve lost the last 5 6N games against them in a row. We haven’t played well against them in ages


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Gatland said so. Plus you've played absolute shit and beaten England before


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'England are in danger of making this Six Nations a procession!' What the English media are saying about Wales v England - https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rug ... s-15818854

Interesting stuff.


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Carwyn wrote:
'England are in danger of making this Six Nations a procession!' What the English media are saying about Wales v England - https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rug ... s-15818854

Interesting stuff.

Celestialstorm, nice to see you back.


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'England are in danger of making this Six Nations a procession!' What the English media are saying about Wales v England - https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rug ... s-15818854

Interesting stuff.

Bit of lazy journalism from wailsonline there. The English team and their fans have every right to be full of confidence and bravado. They've obviously done some very hard work and nobody expected them to do what they've been doing.


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Carwyn wrote:
'England are in danger of making this Six Nations a procession!' What the English media are saying about Wales v England - https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rug ... s-15818854

Interesting stuff.

Bit of lazy journalism from wailsonline there. The English team and their fans have every right to be full of confidence and bravado. They've obviously done some very hard work and nobody expected them to do what they've been doing.



Seconded, going on the results and the way teams have played so far, I fail to see anyone beating them. We can only live in hope


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Gatland said so. Plus you've played absolute shit and beaten England before


We were garbage in the 2012 match but that’s a long time ago.


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Since beating SA & Aus in November Wales have played one game with their first choice team in which they recovered from a 16 point deficit to win away.


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Carwyn wrote:
'England are in danger of making this Six Nations a procession!' What the English media are saying about Wales v England - https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rug ... s-15818854

Interesting stuff.

Bit of lazy journalism from wailsonline there. The English team and their fans have every right to be full of confidence and bravado. They've obviously done some very hard work and nobody expected them to do what they've been doing.



Seconded, going on the results and the way teams have played so far, I fail to see anyone beating them. We can only live in hope

While I think England can be beaten it's probably going to take a team better than Wales. Or at least better than the performing team Wales have put out recently.


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'England are in danger of making this Six Nations a procession!' What the English media are saying about Wales v England - https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rug ... s-15818854

Interesting stuff.

Celestialstorm, nice to see you back.


Yes, welcome back, CS :D


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