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Are you saying there is no improvement from Bosch .

Has he improved? Or is it just that he was finally given a chance again? There were never any real issues with his attack but his defence is still poor


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Are you saying there is no improvement from Bosch .

Has he improved? Or is it just that he was finally given a chance again? There were never any real issues with his attack but his defence is still poor


You mean a better and younger version of Junktjies.
I can see that kind of analysis stick. And detractors will continue to harp on his defensive record and highlight every single missed tackle.


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Jensrsa wrote:
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Are you saying there is no improvement from Bosch .

Has he improved? Or is it just that he was finally given a chance again? There were never any real issues with his attack but his defence is still poor


To be fair he is at least attempting to tackle these days. Last year and at the start of this season he was actively avoiding tackling.

It is good to see that Dad has given him a chance [not that much trust though as he keeps putting Junior on at crucial moments, but that is another story], which is better than what Fleck shows in" Wunderkind".


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PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2019 7:00 am 
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Chilli wrote:
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Are you saying there is no improvement from Bosch .

Has he improved? Or is it just that he was finally given a chance again? There were never any real issues with his attack but his defence is still poor


To be fair he is at least attempting to tackle these days. Last year and at the start of this season he was actively avoiding tackling.

It is good to see that Dad has given him a chance [not that much trust though as he keeps putting Junior on at crucial moments, but that is another story], which is better than what Fleck shows in" Wunderkind".

Fleck was forced to move him to 10 this past weekend because Bosch is blossoming everywhere he goes. I loved the clips I saw of Bosch when he was a junior ( although technically he still is ) and was disappointed in his first Soup campaign. Loved him in last years Currie cup. Thought he has done enough now to keep Robert junior out of the starting lineup. I think we are finally seeing this kid blossom


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I think it's safe to say that Bosch has improved, from last year's SR tournament. A season of CC helped. Still not sure he's quite ready to be talked about in the Bok team, but lets see how the injury list develops over the next few weeks.


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PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2019 7:12 am 
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I think it's safe to say that Bosch has improved, from last year's SR tournament. A season of CC helped. Still not sure he's quite ready to be talked about in the Bok team, but lets see how the injury list develops over the next few weeks.



Dude...Junktjies never ever ever gets injured


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PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2019 7:13 am 
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I think it's safe to say that Bosch has improved, from last year's SR tournament. A season of CC helped. Still not sure he's quite ready to be talked about in the Bok team, but lets see how the injury list develops over the next few weeks.

I concur.

At least he has been given a chance to show his talent. And is no longer being hidden away.


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PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2019 7:18 am 
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It's safe to say he is the most under hyped young talent we have that's actually living up to expectations. I respect that.


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At least he has been given a chance to show his talent. And is no longer being hidden away.


Indeed. Although I still can't decide whether 10 or 15 is his best position.


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PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2019 7:24 am 
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assfly wrote:
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At least he has been given a chance to show his talent. And is no longer being hidden away.


Indeed. Although I still can't decide whether 10 or 15 is his best position.


I am in the same boat. Flyhalf is a position of responsibility which requires temperament and a certain amount of conservatism. Fullback you are free to do as you like. One you are required to make the play for others. The other you shine on your own.

The thing is we have no other alternative at flyhalf so he is forced to play there. And making TOTW against top competition away from home...cannot fault that.
And we have see him at fullback and I just can't get enough. Whenever he touches the ball there is electricity...

And those that deny it are liars.


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PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2019 7:28 am 
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assfly wrote:
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At least he has been given a chance to show his talent. And is no longer being hidden away.


Indeed. Although I still can't decide whether 10 or 15 is his best position.


His best position for the current Sharks team is at 10.


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Chilli wrote:
His best position for the current Sharks team is at 10.


I agree, insomuch that he's in better form than Rob. Which is a shame, as Rob served us well last year. And with Rob going, I don't see much point in persevering with him, although I'm sure Dad will disagree.

His most scintillating plays always happen when he runs from deep.


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Anyway. Let's not put too much pressure on the lad.
Remember he is only a kid


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Sards wrote:
Jensrsa wrote:
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Are you saying there is no improvement from Bosch .

Has he improved? Or is it just that he was finally given a chance again? There were never any real issues with his attack but his defence is still poor


You mean a better and younger version of Junktjies.
I can see that kind of analysis stick. And detractors will continue to harp on his defensive record and highlight every single missed tackle.

:uhoh: There you go again. Deflecting while I merely responded to your question


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Jensrsa wrote:
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Jensrsa wrote:
Sards wrote:
Are you saying there is no improvement from Bosch .

Has he improved? Or is it just that he was finally given a chance again? There were never any real issues with his attack but his defence is still poor


You mean a better and younger version of Junktjies.
I can see that kind of analysis stick. And detractors will continue to harp on his defensive record and highlight every single missed tackle.

:uhoh: There you go again. Deflecting while I merely responded to your question


No dude...I am feeling you.

Junktjies is a very good distributor but kak on defense. Bosch is too. But can do more. In more positions although Junktjies is showing something new at inside centre. Its criticism both players will always carry with them


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Sards wrote:
Jensrsa wrote:
Sards wrote:
Are you saying there is no improvement from Bosch .

Has he improved? Or is it just that he was finally given a chance again? There were never any real issues with his attack but his defence is still poor


You mean a better and younger version of Junktjies.
I can see that kind of analysis stick. And detractors will continue to harp on his defensive record and highlight every single missed tackle.


It doesn't matter if he is or isn't a better and younger version of Junkies, he has a history of not tackling and recent history of missing tackles. Junkies was and is criticized, so too Pollard , so too Wunderkind. Why not Bosch ? Is he "The Special One"?


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Chilli wrote:
Sards wrote:
Jensrsa wrote:
Sards wrote:
Are you saying there is no improvement from Bosch .

Has he improved? Or is it just that he was finally given a chance again? There were never any real issues with his attack but his defence is still poor


You mean a better and younger version of Junktjies.
I can see that kind of analysis stick. And detractors will continue to harp on his defensive record and highlight every single missed tackle.


It doesn't matter if he is or isn't a better and younger version of Junkies, he has a history of not tackling and recent history of missing tackles. Junkies was and is criticized, so too Pollard , so too Wunderkind. Why not Bosch ? Is he "The Special One"?


Never...Let's forget this conversation. Bosch is still a kid. Not worth getting excited about until he has a full season under the belt.

But I do enjoy watching him play like the silent ninja.


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Sards wrote:
Chilli wrote:
Sards wrote:
Jensrsa wrote:
Sards wrote:
Are you saying there is no improvement from Bosch .

Has he improved? Or is it just that he was finally given a chance again? There were never any real issues with his attack but his defence is still poor


You mean a better and younger version of Junktjies.
I can see that kind of analysis stick. And detractors will continue to harp on his defensive record and highlight every single missed tackle.


It doesn't matter if he is or isn't a better and younger version of Junkies, he has a history of not tackling and recent history of missing tackles. Junkies was and is criticized, so too Pollard , so too Wunderkind. Why not Bosch ? Is he "The Special One"?


Never...Let's forget this conversation. Bosch is still a kid. Not worth getting excited about until he has a full season under the belt.

But I do enjoy watching him play like the silent ninja.

:thumbup:


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Sards wrote:
Chilli wrote:
Sards wrote:
Jensrsa wrote:
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Are you saying there is no improvement from Bosch .

Has he improved? Or is it just that he was finally given a chance again? There were never any real issues with his attack but his defence is still poor


You mean a better and younger version of Junktjies.
I can see that kind of analysis stick. And detractors will continue to harp on his defensive record and highlight every single missed tackle.


It doesn't matter if he is or isn't a better and younger version of Junkies, he has a history of not tackling and recent history of missing tackles. Junkies was and is criticized, so too Pollard , so too Wunderkind. Why not Bosch ? Is he "The Special One"?


Never...Let's forget this conversation. Bosch is still a kid. Not worth getting excited about until he has a full season under the belt.

But I do enjoy watching him play like the silent ninja.

He is in his 4th SR season with 42 SR games and 24 CC games under his belt

He has had some good games this season, especially when given time and space. Hopefully he can build on this


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PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2019 1:06 pm 
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Bench Players:
Akker van der Merwe 17 (Although many voted for Kerron van Vuuren as Akker virtually started - came on after 3 minutes)
Simphiwe Mathanzima 6
Seabelo Senatla 2
Thomas du Toit 2
Cameron Wright 2
Wiehahn Herbst
Damian de Allende
Divan Rossouw
Paul Schoeman
Jacques Vermeulen

Non-SR Players:
Cheslin Kolbe 9
Marcell Coetzee 9
Faf de Klerk 7
Cobus Reinach 5
Schoeman
Bismark Du Plessis
Morne Steyn
Wynand Olivier
Ruan Ackermann
Hendre Stassen

https://rugby365.com/opinion/late-tackle/season-4/results-sa-team-of-the-week-2


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SARM SA TEAM OF THE WEEK (ROUND 13)
15. Aphelele Fassi (Sharks)
14. Courtnall Skosan (Lions)
13. Lionel Mapoe (Lions)
12. Harold Vorster (Lions)
11. Aphiwe Dyantyi (Lions)
10. Curwin Bosch (Sharks)
9. Louis Schreuder (Sharks)
8. Duane Vermeulen (Bulls)
7. Jean-Luc du Preez (Sharks)
6. Kwagga Smith (Lions)
5. Ruan Botha (Sharks)
4. Hyron Andrews (Sharks)
3. Coenie Oosthuizen (Sharks)
2. Malcolm Marx (Lions)
1. Thomas du Toit (Sharks)
The Stormers had a bye in round 13
https://www.sarugbymag.co.za/sa-team-week-round-13-3/


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PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2019 5:36 am 
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VOTE NOW: READERS' SOUTH AFRICAN TEAM OF THE WEEK


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I thought Coenie was poor, in fact he has been all season. Not quite the player he was before that injury.

And Thomas du Toit came off injured very early.


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PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2019 7:38 am 
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Bosch continues to " SHIIIINNNNNEEEEE "....

Great to see JLDP starting to make an impact again.

This week the TOTW will be mage up of Stormers players as they have an easy fixture at home.....


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Sards wrote:
Bosch continues to " SHIIIINNNNNEEEEE "....

Great to see JLDP starting to make an impact again.

This week the TOTW will be mage up of Stormers players as they have an easy fixture at home.....


Bosch was not so good over the weekend, but the best Saffer 10 on display.


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Chilli wrote:
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Bosch continues to " SHIIIINNNNNEEEEE "....

Great to see JLDP starting to make an impact again.

This week the TOTW will be mage up of Stormers players as they have an easy fixture at home.....


Bosch was not so good over the weekend, but the best Saffer 10 on display.



Playing away in New Zealand ..... extra Brownie points....and yes, Definitely better than any other 10 on display


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Players nominated for the ‘replacement’ bench – those who came on as reserves and impressed – include Shaun Reynolds (six votes), Dylan Smith (five), Tyrone Green (five), Marnus Schoeman (four), Mzamo Majola (two), Embrose Papier (two), Kobus van Wyk, Johannes Jonker, Jaco Visagie and Cameron Wright (all one vote).

Players who – according to the readers – performed admirably in European competitions include Vincent Koch (six votes), Michael Rhodes, Marcell Coetzee and Schalk Burger (one vote each).

https://rugby365.com/opinion/second-phase/readers-team-of-the-week-results-are-out


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Team look just about right.


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SARM SA TEAM OF THE WEEK (ROUND 14)
15. Warrick Gelant (Bulls)
14. Courtnall Skosan (Lions)
13. Lionel Mapoe (Lions)
12. Burger Odendaal (Bulls)
11. Rosko Specman (Bulls)
10. Handré Pollard (Bulls)
9. Herschel Jantjies (Stormers)
8. Duane Vermeulen (Bulls)
7. Siya Kolisi (Stormers)
6. Kwagga Smith (Lions)
5. RG Snyman (Bulls)
4. Eben Etzebeth (Stormers)
3. Carlu Sadie (Lions)
2. Schalk Brits (Bulls)
1. Lizo Gqoboka (Bulls)
The Sharks had a bye in round 14

https://www.sarugbymag.co.za/2019-sa-team-of-the-week-round-14/


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Someone crocked the results. Wunderkind was fantastic according to Ouboet and Gelant was pretty average according to me...


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VOTE NOW: READERS' TEAM OF THE WEEK


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Junkies really has slipped out of contention. Even Jens hardly mentions him.


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Junkies really has slipped out of contention. Even Jens hardly mentions him.

I think Jantjies is still playing at the same level, it's just that Pollard has finally regained his form after his injuries and getting to peak fitness.




As I've said he would.


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Junkies really has slipped out of contention. Even Jens hardly mentions him.

I think Jantjies is still playing at the same level, it's just that Pollard has finally regained his form after his injuries and getting to peak fitness.




As I've said he would.

Jantjies needs to play the nothing games, nothing more. This should be the last year he is involved in Bok rugby. Hopefully.


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Junkies really has slipped out of contention. Even Jens hardly mentions him.

I think Jantjies is still playing at the same level, it's just that Pollard has finally regained his form after his injuries and getting to peak fitness.




As I've said he would.

Jantjies needs to play the nothing games, nothing more. This should be the last year he is involved in Bok rugby. Hopefully.

Jantjies will be used next year again when Montpellier put roadblocks in Pollard's way that will prevent him from playing many games for the Boks


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Bosch will be the main man by then. Only youngster making a name for himself.


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Bosch will be the main man by then

Only if Willemse doesn't move to the Sharks :)


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Bosch will be the main man by then

Only if Willemse doesn't move to the Sharks :)


:lol:

Seriously...

Stormers aren't making a noise about Willemse leaving yet the Sharks are bending over backwards to retain Bosch...Seems thr selectors are seeing something you aren't


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Sards wrote:
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Bosch will be the main man by then

Only if Willemse doesn't move to the Sharks :)


:lol:

Seriously

Sards you flip flop so often no-one can take you seriously


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Jensrsa wrote:
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Bosch will be the main man by then

Only if Willemse doesn't move to the Sharks :)


:lol:

Seriously

Sards you flip flop so often no-one can take you seriously


Link or get the vok out...I have been consistent on this.

You just don't like the fact that Junktjies is surplus to requirements


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