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PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2018 4:27 pm 
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Instonians got stuffed by Ballina 41-18.

Armagh winning 24-13 with 10 to go.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2018 4:36 pm 
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Christ, Ballina hockeyed Instonians 41-12 in Belfast in the round robin, and only need 1 point against Ashbourne to be sure of going up to 2c. If City of Derry are going back to junior ranks they might already be up. 2 senior clubs in the northwest. :lol:


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2018 5:24 pm 
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Great result for Armagh, one of the boys got married yesterday, so not even sure if a strong/sober side went down. Delighted for Willie and Chris, and the team.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2018 5:28 pm 
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Lenny wrote:
Christ, Ballina hockeyed Instonians 41-12 in Belfast in the round robin, and only need 1 point against Ashbourne to be sure of going up to 2c. If City of Derry are going back to junior ranks they might already be up. 2 senior clubs in the northwest. :lol:

Aye. :blush: Serious questions to be asked.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2018 4:09 pm 
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Great win for Armagh today! Come on the boys!


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Good day for the Leesiders.

Have a cousin playing for UCC was out watching them last week in Mary’s. Will be great experience for hem next season.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2018 9:42 am 
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Lenny wrote:
Christ, Ballina hockeyed Instonians 41-12 in Belfast in the round robin, and only need 1 point against Ashbourne to be sure of going up to 2c. If City of Derry are going back to junior ranks they might already be up. 2 senior clubs in the northwest. :lol:



Ashbourne you useless bastards.

20 minute drive just became 4 hours :lol:


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2018 10:33 am 
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Belfast Harlequins just had too much in the pack for Omagh.
We played some good stuff in the first half and went in 13-12 up but our line out wasn't good enough and their extra power started to tell in the second.
They scored two tries while we had a man in the bin and we couldn't get the late try.
The team has learned a lot and hopefully some better game management will come with experience


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2018 10:36 am 
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They beat us fairly handy by all accounts.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2018 10:52 am 
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Mullet 2 wrote:
They beat us fairly handy by all accounts.

2B must be a fair step up from 2C if they are 2nd bottom of it


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2018 10:58 am 
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From watching Armagh over the last few years, I wouldnt say there is that massive a jump between 2C, 2B and even 2A. Quinns would have plenty of old hands on the books who maybe haven't played much this season but came back to get them out of trouble.


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Reuser wrote:
Mullet 2 wrote:
They beat us fairly handy by all accounts.

2B must be a fair step up from 2C if they are 2nd bottom of it

Not really - depends on the day

Navan just gone double back to back promotions. Albeit bringing in Willie Staunton to play 10 was a master stroke.


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Banana Man wrote:
Reuser wrote:
Mullet 2 wrote:
They beat us fairly handy by all accounts.

2B must be a fair step up from 2C if they are 2nd bottom of it

Not really - depends on the day

Navan just gone double back to back promotions. Albeit bringing in Willie Staunton to play 10 was a master stroke.


As long as the confiscate his phone.


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Nolanator wrote:
Banana Man wrote:
Reuser wrote:
Mullet 2 wrote:
They beat us fairly handy by all accounts.

2B must be a fair step up from 2C if they are 2nd bottom of it

Not really - depends on the day

Navan just gone double back to back promotions. Albeit bringing in Willie Staunton to play 10 was a master stroke.


As long as the confiscate his phone.

Did you play at all up in Nordieland Nols?


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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2018 9:37 am 
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Nah, I'm broken and need a significant reconstruction job on my wrist. Been putting it off as I need that hand for work (lab research). I need to plan it around a period in work where I'm away from the lab doing data analysis.
Just started a new job too, so can't rock up and then say "Oh, I can't work properly for the next three months".


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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2018 9:39 am 
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Nolanator wrote:
Nah, I'm broken and need a significant reconstruction job on my wrist. Been putting it off as I need that hand for work (lab research). I need to plan it around a period in work where I'm away from the lab doing data analysis.
Just started a new job too, so can't rock up and then say "Oh, I can't work properly for the next three months".

Where's that wanking emoji when you need it


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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2018 9:57 am 
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I had heard that Ash weren't too bothered about going up to 2C but that Enniscorthy wanted to.


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Liathroidigloine wrote:
I had heard that Ash weren't too bothered about going up to 2C but that Enniscorthy wanted to.

Nah I know a few lads in Ashbourne - they had done recruiting too for next season

Just throwing out the excuse after they got hammered in round robin to be honest.


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Happened before when they won and forget to tell their Kiwi ten about the playoffs

He promptly headed home :lol:


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Banana Man wrote:
Liathroidigloine wrote:
I had heard that Ash weren't too bothered about going up to 2C but that Enniscorthy wanted to.

Nah I know a few lads in Ashbourne - they had done recruiting too for next season

Just throwing out the excuse after they got hammered in round robin to be honest.


Fair enough.


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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2018 12:40 pm 
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Instonians on the other hand just buggered it. Serious underperformance with a fairly full deck.


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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2018 11:21 pm 
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Armagh have won the Ulster Senior league, to add to the Ulster Senior Cup and promotion to 1B in the AIL, this evening. Not a bad season, Willie Faloon and Chris Parker doing a good job.


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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2018 3:25 pm 
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Well done Lansdowne.

Leinster domination of the AIL now well established.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2018 10:56 am 
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More changes coming to AIL.

Seems they now need the clubs as the piece of shít B&I cup is dead in the water.

Proposing that a new Inter pro for the As will take place at the start of the year with the AIL not starting until mid-October. With more of the provincial lads then taking part.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2018 11:01 am 
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Put it in Irish thread

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The All Ireland League is set to change shape to bring its top end closer to the professional game. In changes scheduled to kick in for the 2019-20 season, the new format will see two divisions of eight at the top - Premiership 1 and Premiership 2 - followed by two Championship Divisions, each of eight clubs, and then two Conference Divisions, also of eight clubs each.
Details of the new format were sent to the clubs on Friday following ratification at a IRFU committee meeting on Thursday evening and a final consultation process will start next month.
At the same meeting, Pa Whelan was replaced as one of Ireland's three representatives on the World Rugby council.
Given that research and meetings with clubs on the league structure have gone on to some degree over the last two seasons it's expected that in the event of stalemate over agreement, the Union will issue invitations to clubs to take part.
At the top end, it's planned initially to ensure representation from the four provinces of at least two clubs across the two the Premiership Divisions, and that they would be ring-fenced for two seasons. Thereafter, their make-up would be determined solely via promotion and relegation. Having a provincial spread allows for the respective provinces' academy players to be involved, which is central to the plan to align the proposed 'Premiership' with the professional game.
In the absence of the now-discontinued B&I Cup, the schedule would see a new 'A team' competition between Irish provinces and Welsh regions played over September/October, followed by the AIL in which there would be no restriction on the number of contracted players involved. The IRFU will fund the new format in which the IRFU's regulation 6, regarding inducements to players, will be rewritten.
The Premiership and Championship Divisions will be played on a national basis, but the plan for Conference Divisions is to structure them fresh each season to avoid long-distance travel for clubs who can't afford it.
At the IRFU meeting it was also decided that outgoing Union president Phil Orr would replace Pa Whelan on the World Rugby council. He will be ratified, along with John O’Driscoll and women’s rep Sue Carty, at the IRFU AGM next month. This is the second time in recent years Orr has benefited from swift political change. In 2015 he was voted in from the floor of the AGM as junior vice-president when outgoing management committee chairman Finbarr Crowley had been recommended by the Union committee.
Whelan has had a lifetime's involvement in Irish rugby, much of it with the Ireland team as coach/selector/manager and with the IRFU committee. He cut short his managerial role of the Ireland side shortly before their tour of South Africa in 1998, having been named in an alleged assault.
It is understood his position may have come under scrutiny following the fallout from Ireland's failed bid to host the 2023 World Cup.


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Can't post up the PDF.

Interesting anyway


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Are they ring-fencing the Premierships?


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2018 11:08 am 
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For two seasons


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Seems like a good idea. The standard is getting pretty good there again. Would be nice to see it as a genuine stepping stone to the fully-pro tier.


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Boxcar Ira wrote:
Seems like a good idea. The standard is getting pretty good there again. Would be nice to see it as a genuine stepping stone to the fully-pro tier.


Sounds a little like the Scottish model.


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Boxcar Ira wrote:
Seems like a good idea. The standard is getting pretty good there again. Would be nice to see it as a genuine stepping stone to the fully-pro tier.

Maybe if you are a Lansdowne - but lower down teams and higher level junior ones like an Enniscorthy etc will now have a harder time breaking into senior I think.


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Banana Man wrote:
Boxcar Ira wrote:
Seems like a good idea. The standard is getting pretty good there again. Would be nice to see it as a genuine stepping stone to the fully-pro tier.

Maybe if you are a Lansdowne - but lower down teams and higher level junior ones like an Enniscorthy etc will now have a harder time breaking into senior I think.



I suspect the real issue will be breaking in the new Premier Section (Old money 1A & 1B).

It will remain relatively the same to get into the newly named Conference.


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Mullet 2 wrote:
Banana Man wrote:
Boxcar Ira wrote:
Seems like a good idea. The standard is getting pretty good there again. Would be nice to see it as a genuine stepping stone to the fully-pro tier.

Maybe if you are a Lansdowne - but lower down teams and higher level junior ones like an Enniscorthy etc will now have a harder time breaking into senior I think.



I suspect the real issue will be breaking in the new Premier Section (Old money 1A & 1B).

It will remain relatively the same to get into the newly named Conference.

True enough - the rich will stay rich.


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How are they choosing the Premiership teams? 1A&B from last season?


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Nolanator wrote:
How are they choosing the Premiership teams? 1A&B from last season?



Does last years 1A and 1B have the provincial spread though?


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The switch to a geographical model in the conference division should help alleviate the problem of clubs not wanting to go up from Junior rugby (due to increased costs etc)


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Just checked and the only Connacht side are Bucs

So somebody would be for the chop


Not only that Wegians were far closer to the bottom of 2A than the top.


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Mullet 2 wrote:
Nolanator wrote:
How are they choosing the Premiership teams? 1A&B from last season?



Does last years 1A and 1B have the provincial spread though?

201/2019

1A
Lansdowne, Cork Constitution, Terenure College, Garryowen, Clontarf, Young Munster, UCD, Dublin University, Shannon, UCC

Leinster - 5
Munster - 5

1B
St. Mary's College, Buccaneers, Banbridge, Ballynahinch, Old Belvedere, Naas, Ballymena, Old Wesley, Malone, City of Armagh

Leinster - 4
Ulster - 5
Connacht 1

2A
Dolphin, UL Bohemians, Nenagh Ormond, Highfield, Cashel, Queen's University, Blackrock College, Galwegians, Old Crescent, Navan

Munster - 6
Leinster - 2
Ulster - 1
Connacht - 1

2B
Corinthians, Greystones, Rainey Old Boys, MU Barnhall, Wanderers, Sunday's Well, Skerries, Dungannon, Sligo, Belfast Harlequins

Leinster - 4
Munster - 1
Ulster -3
Connacht - 2

2C
City of Derry, Omagh, Thomond, Malahide, Midleton, Seapoint, Bangor, Tullamore, Ballina, Bruff

Leinster - 3
Munster - 3
Ulster - 3
Connacht 1


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2018 11:23 am 
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Mullet 2 wrote:
Just checked and the only Connacht side are Bucs

So somebody would be for the chop


Not only that Wegians were far closer to the bottom of 2A than the top.

And Corinthians went down.....

Think the Connacht teams are

Buccs - 1B
Wegians - 2A
Sligo - 2B
Corinthians - 2B
Ballina - 2C


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AIL currently has 50 clubs across the 5 divisions and we'll be going to 48 clubs across 6.
I wonder will there be a mega relegation year in 2C


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