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‘Veggie discs’ to replace veggie burgers in EU crackdown on food labels

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Finally a piece of food related EU legislation Brexiteers can get behind.

If only they had thought of this 3 years ago


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I dislike Vegetarians and intensely dislike Vegans.


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Finally a piece of food related EU legislation Brexiteers can get behind.

If only they had thought of this 3 years ago

Do you think that might have been enough for them to win the vote ?


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Finally a piece of food related EU legislation Brexiteers can get behind.

If only they had thought of this 3 years ago

Do you think that might have been enough for them to win the vote ?


No, probably not Anon


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Just seems so pointless. And pathetic.


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Wow, time well spent I'm sure, another burning issue put to rest


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I dislike Vegetarians and intensely dislike Vegans.

Good for you. That is much of the world population.


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Chilli wrote:
I dislike Vegetarians and intensely dislike Vegans.


But they leave meat for omnivores and carnivores :?


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Is it the bun or the patty that determines what it is? A burgers contents between two slices of bread is not really a burger.


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Brings back great memories.


It was 1991 and the RWC was being played in the UK and Ireland.

I was playing for a club in Southampton and we decided to get the lads up to an England game at HQ which all of them had never been to.

We came up in convoy and brought a trailer after one of the SUVs which held a large industrial barbecue which was used to being brought to the big regatta events around the Solent.

Some of the guys had played previously with Harlequins, so we got permission for a pre-match barbecue at The Stoop.

The lad with the BBQ was so proud to be hitting HQ for an international and to be able to serve of some party grub for the masses prior to the game. A load of cold beers and 250 burgers ready to go which he had picked up for a bargain at the Cash n Carry ... what's not to love?

He got the BBQ going and we cracked open the beers. We laced into the burgers and gradually came to a halt. We had a look at what we were eating and eventually realised the best-buy burgers were in fact nut-burgers ... :lol: :lol: :lol:

Disaster.

We stuck to the beers :thumbup:


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I immediately went looking for the publication date.
As I can't see any I assume it was not published there on the 1st.
I still suspect though that somebody somewhere did, possibly in another language, and it has now gone viral.


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Damn good and about time.

I am utterly sick of weedy vegetarians and vegans trying to pretend they are eating real men's food.

Go and light some incense and get over yourselves.....If you don't have the strength to use a lighter, ask a real man meat eater to do if for you.


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Wall of Gammon gets behind veggie discs.


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Leinster in London wrote:
I immediately went looking for the publication date.
As I can't see any I assume it was not published there on the 1st.
I still suspect though that somebody somewhere did, possibly in another language, and it has now gone viral.

Didn't look very hard then...

Top left corner of the page... wrote:
Daniel Boffey in Brussels

Thu 4 Apr 2019 13.12 BST


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Chilli wrote:
I dislike Vegetarians and intensely dislike Vegans.


Well we love you.......hug?


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Mick Mannock wrote:
Just seems so pointless. And pathetic.


Yet again Mick is on the wrong side of an argument. Why should manufacturers be allowed to mislead people?


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sewa wrote:
Mick Mannock wrote:
Just seems so pointless. And pathetic.


Yet again Mick is on the wrong side of an argument. Why should manufacturers be allowed to mislead people?


How is the term - Veggie Burger - misleading?


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Are fish burgers misleading?


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Gazzamonster wrote:
sewa wrote:
Mick Mannock wrote:
Just seems so pointless. And pathetic.


Yet again Mick is on the wrong side of an argument. Why should manufacturers be allowed to mislead people?


How is the term - Veggie Burger - misleading?


Because a burger is a meat product


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 05, 2019 9:23 am 
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sewa wrote:
Gazzamonster wrote:
sewa wrote:
Mick Mannock wrote:
Just seems so pointless. And pathetic.


Yet again Mick is on the wrong side of an argument. Why should manufacturers be allowed to mislead people?


How is the term - Veggie Burger - misleading?


Because a burger is a meat product

Sewa, this shit is fúcking dumb. A burger is simply chopped up something, shaped into a patty. Once upon a time there were only beef burgers, then there were pork burgers, then chicken, then fish, now vegetable, soy and bean.


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sewa wrote:
Gazzamonster wrote:
sewa wrote:
Mick Mannock wrote:
Just seems so pointless. And pathetic.


Yet again Mick is on the wrong side of an argument. Why should manufacturers be allowed to mislead people?


How is the term - Veggie Burger - misleading?


Because a burger is a meat product


And you're not able to decipher the difference between a beef burger, lamb burger, fish burger and a veggie burger?

I guess it comes down to what you see as 'the burger'. To me - the burger is the collection of food stuffs combined forming a burger. To some people the actual 'patty' is the burger.

Either way.....it's a pretty pathetic bit of legislation.


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The bowling pin shaped English gammon will celebrate this news with another 4 pints


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My immediate thought is what a f**king waste of time and also the EU not doing itself any favours in the eyes of the (British?!?) public.

I mean we have Chicken burgers, turkey burgers so is it in any way misleading or confusing to have something called a veggie burger?

But then there is this bit....

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“Purely plant-based products cannot, in principle, be marketed with designations such as milk, cream, butter, cheese or yoghurt,”


and that just makes perfect sense to me. Especially when you factor in how fecking stupid significant swathes of our society seem to be.

Ultimately though who f**king cares - are the boxes that I ignore in the freezer department going to have any effect on my life if they say veggie patties instead of veggie burgers. Are they going to have an effect on anyone's life who doesn't ignore that section? fudge no.

Right, so no effect on anyone's life, but we have more accurate food packaging laws. The only real downside for anyone is that marketing wankers for veggie and vegan food producers are actually going to have to do a bit of work. I mean I still find it difficult to care, but I guess its a good thing :thumbup:


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So how come hamburgers are able to be sold with no ham in them? Likewise frankfurters don't have any Frank in them.

And don't get me started on those Linda McCartney meals.


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Gazzamonster wrote:
sewa wrote:

Because a burger is a meat product


And you're not able to decipher the difference between a beef burger, lamb burger, fish burger and a veggie burger?

I guess it comes down to what you see as 'the burger'. To me - the burger is the collection of food stuffs combined forming a burger. To some people the actual 'patty' is the burger.

Either way.....it's a pretty pathetic bit of legislation.


The fact you use the term 'patty' undermined your entire argument. We are not Americans with their piss poor English ffs


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What I really want to know is when are the EU going to crack down on this whole "Organic" bullshit. Can someone please explain to me what a fecking inorganic tomato is? Its the most bullshit fecking term around and is completely misleading. "Oh my food has been grown without chemicals" - water is a fecking chemical you braindead twat! Was your food grown without water? Kunt!

Worst thing is I have actually seen "Organic Salt" for sale. The one f**king food product that genuinely has absolutely no business being labelled as organic!!!! I fecking hate humans sometimes :x


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sewa wrote:
Gazzamonster wrote:
sewa wrote:

Because a burger is a meat product


And you're not able to decipher the difference between a beef burger, lamb burger, fish burger and a veggie burger?

I guess it comes down to what you see as 'the burger'. To me - the burger is the collection of food stuffs combined forming a burger. To some people the actual 'patty' is the burger.

Either way.....it's a pretty pathetic bit of legislation.


The fact you use the term 'patty' undermined your entire argument. We are not Americans with their piss poor English ffs


And this shows just how ignorant and parochial some people are. No surprises it comes from a narrow-minded poster like Sewa.
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sewa wrote:
Gazzamonster wrote:
sewa wrote:
Mick Mannock wrote:
Just seems so pointless. And pathetic.


Yet again Mick is on the wrong side of an argument. Why should manufacturers be allowed to mislead people?


How is the term - Veggie Burger - misleading?


Because a burger is a meat product


So calling it a veggie burger makes it obvious veggies are substituting the meat.


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sewa wrote:
Gazzamonster wrote:
sewa wrote:

Because a burger is a meat product


And you're not able to decipher the difference between a beef burger, lamb burger, fish burger and a veggie burger?

I guess it comes down to what you see as 'the burger'. To me - the burger is the collection of food stuffs combined forming a burger. To some people the actual 'patty' is the burger.

Either way.....it's a pretty pathetic bit of legislation.


The fact you use the term 'patty' undermined your entire argument. We are not Americans with their piss poor English ffs


Brits who cook Jamaican food disagree with you.


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What I really want to know is when are the EU going to crack down on this whole "Organic" bullshit. Can someone please explain to me what a fecking inorganic tomato is? Its the most bullshit fecking term around and is completely misleading. "Oh my food has been grown without chemicals" - water is a fecking chemical you braindead twat! Was your food grown without water? Kunt!

Worst thing is I have actually seen "Organic Salt" for sale. The one f**king food product that genuinely has absolutely no business being labelled as organic!!!! I fecking hate humans sometimes :x

https://ec.europa.eu/info/food-farming-fisheries/farming/organic-farming_en

The whole organic thing is problematic as its very complex. We do however legislation and certification in place for those who want to choose such foods. Given the usage of antibiotics, hormones and pesticides along with animal welfare and environmental concerns I can see why some people prefer to eat organic.

As for salt traditionally producers such as in the West of France look for organic status as they don't mine or industrially treat their salt. Its just the same as people protecting a brand name, champagne etc. Load of bollocks I agree and I don't buy it but some people love that sort of stuff

The organic manufacturers of the Uk face a major issue as they lose their certification for EU market access on Brexit day and it will take months if not years to recertify them (those that pass the inspections / certification process)


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eldanielfire wrote:
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The fact you use the term 'patty' undermined your entire argument. We are not Americans with their piss poor English ffs


Brits who cook Jamaican food disagree with you.


Say what you like geezer, me ould sparraw, I will stick to using English


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sewa wrote:
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sewa wrote:

Because a burger is a meat product


And you're not able to decipher the difference between a beef burger, lamb burger, fish burger and a veggie burger?

I guess it comes down to what you see as 'the burger'. To me - the burger is the collection of food stuffs combined forming a burger. To some people the actual 'patty' is the burger.

Either way.....it's a pretty pathetic bit of legislation.


The fact you use the term 'patty' undermined your entire argument. We are not Americans with their piss poor English ffs


Well they are called meat patty's in America, Canada, SA, Australia and NZ. So.....you know.....not really a big issue.

BUT.....it is really funny that you are getting so bent out of shape over the term veggie burger.


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sewa wrote:
PornDog wrote:
What I really want to know is when are the EU going to crack down on this whole "Organic" bullshit. Can someone please explain to me what a fecking inorganic tomato is? Its the most bullshit fecking term around and is completely misleading. "Oh my food has been grown without chemicals" - water is a fecking chemical you braindead twat! Was your food grown without water? Kunt!

Worst thing is I have actually seen "Organic Salt" for sale. The one f**king food product that genuinely has absolutely no business being labelled as organic!!!! I fecking hate humans sometimes :x

https://ec.europa.eu/info/food-farming-fisheries/farming/organic-farming_en

The whole organic thing is problematic as its very complex. We do however legislation and certification in place for those who want to choose such foods. Given the usage of antibiotics, hormones and pesticides along with animal welfare and environmental concerns I can see why some people prefer to eat organic.

As for salt traditionally producers such as in the West of France look for organic status as they don't mine or industrially treat their salt. Its just the same as people protecting a brand name, champagne etc. Load of bollocks I agree and I don't buy it but some people love that sort of stuff

The organic manufacturers of the Uk face a major issue as they lose their certification for EU market access on Brexit day and it will take months if not years to recertify them (those that pass the inspections / certification process)


Now explain how you can have Himalayan Sea Salt?


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Gazzamonster wrote:
sewa wrote:
Gazzamonster wrote:
sewa wrote:

Because a burger is a meat product


And you're not able to decipher the difference between a beef burger, lamb burger, fish burger and a veggie burger?

I guess it comes down to what you see as 'the burger'. To me - the burger is the collection of food stuffs combined forming a burger. To some people the actual 'patty' is the burger.

Either way.....it's a pretty pathetic bit of legislation.


The fact you use the term 'patty' undermined your entire argument. We are not Americans with their piss poor English ffs


Well they are called meat patty's in America, Canada, SA, Australia and NZ. So.....you know.....not really a big issue.

BUT.....it is really funny that you are getting so bent out of shape over the term veggie burger.


Am I really? I merely applauded the EU for their sensible food labelling policies. Its the people disagreeing who are bent out of shape to use your terminology


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Now explain how you can have Himalayan Sea Salt?


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Himalayan_salt

I assume you have a basic understanding of geology / how mountains are formed? By the way I don't buy that Himalayan sea salt stuff or eat organic myself. I don't object to people having their own choice though


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Gazzamonster wrote:
sewa wrote:
Gazzamonster wrote:
sewa wrote:

Because a burger is a meat product


And you're not able to decipher the difference between a beef burger, lamb burger, fish burger and a veggie burger?

I guess it comes down to what you see as 'the burger'. To me - the burger is the collection of food stuffs combined forming a burger. To some people the actual 'patty' is the burger.

Either way.....it's a pretty pathetic bit of legislation.


The fact you use the term 'patty' undermined your entire argument. We are not Americans with their piss poor English ffs


Well they are called meat patty's in America, Canada, SA, Australia and NZ. So.....you know.....not really a big issue.

BUT.....it is really funny that you are getting so bent out of shape over the term veggie burger.


Of course the parochial lad is bent out of shape. He will deny it though.


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Mick Mannock wrote:

Of course the parochial lad is bent out of shape. He will deny it though.


I have lived in Netherlands, Belgium, Israel and Spain in the last seven years. Yes Mick you right wing loon I am parochial, you shouldn't use words you don't understand


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Am I really? I merely applauded the EU for their sensible food labelling policies. Its the people disagreeing who are bent out of shape to use your terminology


Surely the fact that the burger is described as 'veggie' means it is already very clear that the burger is a vegetable burger?

Should the EU instruct McDonalds to rename their hamburger to a beef burger? Should they instruct McDonalds to change their cheeseburger to the correct name of beef burger with cheese?


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Gazzamonster wrote:
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Am I really? I merely applauded the EU for their sensible food labelling policies. Its the people disagreeing who are bent out of shape to use your terminology


Surely the fact that the burger is described as 'veggie' means it is already very clear that the burger is a vegetable burger?

Should the EU instruct McDonalds to rename their hamburger to a beef burger? Should they instruct McDonalds to change their cheeseburger to the correct name of beef burger with cheese?


https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/supermacs-claims-david-vs-goliath-trademark-win-over-mcdonalds-897699.html

Actually an Irish man won a very important legal challenge against McDonalds recently who were trying to illegally block him opening his food chain outside Ireland. Its not a simple area like you may presume


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