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PostPosted: Sun May 12, 2019 8:04 pm 
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Well enough people here are excited that their side might win a humiliating season in the Champion's Cup.


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Of all the welsh teams the ospreys would have by far the best chance, next year their team should shit on the rest, obviously the big weaknesses are at 2, 3, 8 and 9 but the quality elsewhere make them formidable, every year further from the Tandy era, the better they'll be.

Moriarty would be a big signing for them.

Elsewhere my beloved Cardiff are looking pretty destitute in post Uncle Peter life, I fear for our future finances


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PostPosted: Sun May 12, 2019 9:51 pm 
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Of all the welsh teams the ospreys would have by far the best chance, next year their team should shit on the rest, obviously the big weaknesses are at 2, 3, 8 and 9 but the quality elsewhere make them formidable, every year further from the Tandy era, the better they'll be.

Moriarty would be a big signing for them.

Elsewhere my beloved Cardiff are looking pretty destitute in post Uncle Peter life, I fear for our future finances


Since Beirne left, and Ball has gone off the boil the Scarlets have looked a shadow of their former selves. It's an old adage, but true nonetheless, but forwards decide who win the game, and the Ospreys currently have the best pack (that is, if they can keep hold of AWJ).


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PostPosted: Sun May 12, 2019 10:02 pm 
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Of all the welsh teams the ospreys would have by far the best chance, next year their team should shit on the rest, obviously the big weaknesses are at 2, 3, 8 and 9 but the quality elsewhere make them formidable, every year further from the Tandy era, the better they'll be.

Moriarty would be a big signing for them.

Elsewhere my beloved Cardiff are looking pretty destitute in post Uncle Peter life, I fear for our future finances


Since Beirne left, and Ball has gone off the boil the Scarlets have looked a shadow of their former selves. It's an old adage, but true nonetheless, but forwards decide who win the game, and the Ospreys currently have the best pack (that is, if they can keep hold of AWJ).


Throw in Lee being one hell of an overrated player and Kens carrying as effective as my nan bringing her shopping home.

Their backs should be good value too, Anscombe, TTW, Scott, North and Evans has great skill, power and defensive class about it, though they need a centre to own the number 13, ridiculously, Cory Allen has looked the pick on this seasons form

It would be criminal if the scarlets end up in the big boys cup


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PostPosted: Sun May 12, 2019 10:06 pm 
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Do we know if the play off is going to be televised? And if so where and when?


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PostPosted: Sun May 12, 2019 11:12 pm 
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Do we know if the play off is going to be televised? And if so where and when?



If it`s televised it will be on Premier sport I think. 18th May 7.45 pm.


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Been and got my ticket before some unwashed Turk could get my seat. :P


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Been and got my ticket before some unwashed Turk could get my seat. :P


I bet you don't even wipe your bum. ;)


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Been and got my ticket before some unwashed Turk could get my seat. :P


I bet you don't even wipe your bum. ;)



I would sh*t on it if it would guarantee a Turk couldn`t sit on it :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
( I could never sit there again if I thought one of the great unwashed had sat there. :P )


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Been and got my ticket before some unwashed Turk could get my seat. :P


I bet you don't even wipe your bum. ;)



I would sh*t on it if it would guarantee a Turk couldn`t sit on it :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
( I could never sit there again if I thought one of the great unwashed had sat there. :P )


What a charming individual you are.


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Scarlets may be without James Davies, Rob Evans, Wyn Jones and Samson Lee. None are fully fit.

That means Dylan Evans may be at 1 with Werner Kruger at 3. That is a seriously weak propping department at scrum time.


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Scarlets may be without James Davies, Rob Evans, Wyn Jones and Samson Lee. None are fully fit.

That means Dylan Evans may be at 1 with Werner Kruger at 3. That is a seriously weak propping department at scrum time.


James Davies - out but I do like the look of Dan Davis
Rob Evs - out and known about it for over a month
Wyn Jones - absolute disaster because the next up is a step or three down
Samson Lee - Kruger is a more than adequate replacement - but the bench is now weak
Kieron Fonota - also sounds out
Aaron Shingler - hasn't played in 12 months; major concern

Jake Ball - back at last
Blade Thomson - also available


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We need to talk about Plaid Cymru...

How can they simultaneously argue that being a member of a large group of countries like the EU makes Wales and/or Britain stronger, but being a part of a nation of four states makes us weaker?


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We need to talk about Plaid Cymru...

How can they simultaneously argue that being a member of a large group of countries like the EU makes Wales and/or Britain stronger, but being a part of a nation of four states makes us weaker?


Because being lapdogs to the Saes is shit. Rather be in a union of 28 than one of xenohobic mongrals,


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So we're bringing in politics in order to boost our page count..........nice tactic


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We need to talk about Plaid Cymru...

How can they simultaneously argue that being a member of a large group of countries like the EU makes Wales and/or Britain stronger, but being a part of a nation of four states makes us weaker?


That's always the oxymoron of current nationalism trends. They'll pretend it's not out of hate either.


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To get it back onto rugby. Here is Dean Ryan talking about how awesome the Dragons are going to be next year!


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After that signing, are you starting to come round to my opinion on the IQ levels of the average Welshman?


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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2019 9:15 am 
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After that signing, are you starting to come round to my opinion on the IQ levels of the average Welshman?

A post most unworthy of you.

EDIT: Though if it was the average IQ of WRU and Dragons board members then you're probably spot on.


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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2019 9:43 am 
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Mediocrity is within our grasp! What a time to be alive...


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Mediocrity is within our grasp! What a time to be alive...

Imagine the Dragons being described as "alright, I guess." Almost makes you cry.


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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2019 10:26 am 
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Mediocrity is within our grasp! What a time to be alive...

Imagine the Dragons being described as "alright, I guess." Almost makes you cry.


Winning a game away? Dare we dream of such things?

Actually what Ryan has said is 'unlikely to be many signings, going to take time, patience needed'...so probably 6 wins next season.


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Mediocrity is within our grasp! What a time to be alive...

Imagine the Dragons being described as "alright, I guess." Almost makes you cry.


Winning a game away? Dare we dream of such things?

Actually what Ryan has said is 'unlikely to be many signings, going to take time, patience needed'...so probably 6 wins next season.

One more than this season so an improvement of 20% :nod:


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penguin wrote:
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Mediocrity is within our grasp! What a time to be alive...

Imagine the Dragons being described as "alright, I guess." Almost makes you cry.


Winning a game away? Dare we dream of such things?

Actually what Ryan has said is 'unlikely to be many signings, going to take time, patience needed'...so probably 6 wins next season.

One more than this season so an improvement of 20% :nod:


And at that rate (4 two seasons ago, 5 this, 6 next season) we're going to make the playoffs in...<mashes calculator pad> sometime in the late 2020s. By which time the Pro14 will be the Pro 44 and we'll be in the 3rd Tier competition playing the likes of Timisoara Saracens, the Ottawa Ospreys and the Antananarivo Lemurs.


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Do they need to be any better, get the same handouts from the union still be in the Pro 14, there is no penalty for failing , so is there a real need to be better.


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Do they need to be any better, get the same handouts from the union still be in the Pro 14, there is no penalty for failing , so is there a real need to be better.


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Do they need to be any better, get the same handouts from the union still be in the Pro 14, there is no penalty for failing , so is there a real need to be better.


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I suppose that's easier than answering the question.


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And at that rate (4 two seasons ago, 5 this, 6 next season) we're going to make the playoffs in...<mashes calculator pad> sometime in the late 2020s. By which time the Pro14 will be the Pro 44 and we'll be in the 3rd Tier competition playing the likes of Timisoara Saracens, the Ottawa Ospreys and the Antananarivo Lemurs.

An away day v the Nissan Shibau Inu will be very popular.

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Do they need to be any better, get the same handouts from the union still be in the Pro 14, there is no penalty for failing , so is there a real need to be better.

I suppose it depends on how much ambition they have. they may not get less money when failing but success will bring more money.


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I see nothing in these Dragons statements that give me much hope for the future. A case of more of the same. Our desire to rise to mediocrity will continue...


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With our regions we usually start the season confident before reality sets in after 2/3 weeks. However this time we've grasped reality for next season before this one has ended.

Well done all :thumbup:


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With our regions we usually start the season confident before reality sets in after 2/3 weeks. However this time we've grasped reality for next season before this one has ended.

Well done all :thumbup:

Planning for failure is not failure of planning.


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bessantj wrote:
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And at that rate (4 two seasons ago, 5 this, 6 next season) we're going to make the playoffs in...<mashes calculator pad> sometime in the late 2020s. By which time the Pro14 will be the Pro 44 and we'll be in the 3rd Tier competition playing the likes of Timisoara Saracens, the Ottawa Ospreys and the Antananarivo Lemurs.

An away day v the Nissan Shibau Inu will be very popular.

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Do they need to be any better, get the same handouts from the union still be in the Pro 14, there is no penalty for failing , so is there a real need to be better.

I suppose it depends on how much ambition they have. they may not get less money when failing but success will bring more money.

Depends on the level of success , I suppose, for the Dragons not being the bottom Welsh side would be aiming very high.


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Do they need to be any better, get the same handouts from the union still be in the Pro 14, there is no penalty for failing , so is there a real need to be better.

I suppose it depends on how much ambition they have. they may not get less money when failing but success will bring more money.

Depends on the level of success , I suppose, for the Dragons not being the bottom Welsh side would be aiming very high.

Just making the Dragons harder to beat would be a start. The amount of games the Dragons shipped 30+ points (let alone 40+ and 50+) is embarrassing.


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bessantj wrote:
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Do they need to be any better, get the same handouts from the union still be in the Pro 14, there is no penalty for failing , so is there a real need to be better.

I suppose it depends on how much ambition they have. they may not get less money when failing but success will bring more money.

Depends on the level of success , I suppose, for the Dragons not being the bottom Welsh side would be aiming very high.

Just making the Dragons harder to beat would be a start. The amount of games the Dragons shipped 30+ points (let alone 40+ and 50+) is embarrassing.


I disagree - I think we should always concede around 30-40 points, but play a Baabaas style rugby to try and score from anywhere on the park. More entertainment, more tries and none of the dangerous expectations that would come with improving attack and defence.


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Frodder wrote:
With our regions we usually start the season confident before reality sets in after 2/3 weeks. However this time we've grasped reality for next season before this one has ended.

Well done all :thumbup:


we've got the world cup to look forward to - won't have to worry about club rugby until mid-November


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Do they need to be any better, get the same handouts from the union still be in the Pro 14, there is no penalty for failing , so is there a real need to be better.

I suppose it depends on how much ambition they have. they may not get less money when failing but success will bring more money.

Depends on the level of success , I suppose, for the Dragons not being the bottom Welsh side would be aiming very high.

Just making the Dragons harder to beat would be a start. The amount of games the Dragons shipped 30+ points (let alone 40+ and 50+) is embarrassing.


I disagree - I think we should always concede around 30-40 points, but play a Baabaas style rugby to try and score from anywhere on the park. More entertainment, more tries and none of the dangerous expectations that would come with improving attack and defence.

You've hit on something here. Picking a team from every player on the planet would be a help.


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You've hit on something here. Picking a team from every player on the planet would be a help.


My plan involves a lot of Fijians.


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Must admit this had me sweating, but, he`s signed at last. All we need now is AWJ to do the same.


Nicky Smith is the fourth member of this year's squad to commit their future to the Region, signing a long term deal to remain an Osprey until 2023
Part of the Wales squad that won the Grand Slam this year, he made his 100th appearance for the Ospreys earlier this season
Former Pentrehafod School pupil Smith grew up within 10 minutes walk of the Liberty Stadium
He follows Dan Evans, Luke Morgan and Cory Allen in signing new deal

http://www.ospreysrugby.com/News/Article/54483


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Must admit this had me sweating, but, he`s signed at last. All we need now is AWJ to do the same.


Nicky Smith is the fourth member of this year's squad to commit their future to the Region, signing a long term deal to remain an Osprey until 2023
Part of the Wales squad that won the Grand Slam this year, he made his 100th appearance for the Ospreys earlier this season
Former Pentrehafod School pupil Smith grew up within 10 minutes walk of the Liberty Stadium
He follows Dan Evans, Luke Morgan and Cory Allen in signing new deal

http://www.ospreysrugby.com/News/Article/54483


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Must admit this had me sweating, but, he`s signed at last. All we need now is AWJ to do the same.


Nicky Smith is the fourth member of this year's squad to commit their future to the Region, signing a long term deal to remain an Osprey until 2023
Part of the Wales squad that won the Grand Slam this year, he made his 100th appearance for the Ospreys earlier this season
Former Pentrehafod School pupil Smith grew up within 10 minutes walk of the Liberty Stadium
He follows Dan Evans, Luke Morgan and Cory Allen in signing new deal

http://www.ospreysrugby.com/News/Article/54483

Hopefully AWJ signs soon, good to know all the nonsense from the season hasn't caused everyone to leave.


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