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Oh I see, we've won a title and now you are coming back. Where were you when we shipped 50 points to Glasgow at home?LandOTurk wrote:Just bought my flight home for a week. Will be attending Scarlets v Kings with enthusiasm.
Be grateful for the extra bum on seat. It's not like you haven't a few spare.Clive Simms wrote:Oh I see, we've won a title and now you are coming back. Where were you when we shipped 50 points to Glasgow at home?LandOTurk wrote:Just bought my flight home for a week. Will be attending Scarlets v Kings with enthusiasm.
It's nice to have that experience in a pivotal position. Dorian Jones, MacLoed, Tovey, Rhys Jones, Kris Burton. That's a pretty depressing list of our recent 10spenguin wrote:Yeah, normally he's pretty solid as a pundit. We don't have a backbone of experience. When you're captain is a 25 year old, and there are only a handful of Brok Harris and Landman elder statesmen types, guaranteed to start more often than not, then Henson and Kirchner have a big role in the squad.Jeff the Bear wrote:I usually agree 100% with anything Gwyn says, but I reckon he's completely wrong in this case. You need a good solid backbone of experienced players if you are going to go down the development route. 15 youngsters starting would lead to hiding after hiding.henry wrote:Don't think Henson is a bad buy at all. The bloke has bags of ability and youngsters can only learn from him, in every sense. And as you say, from a bums on seats and shirts on beer belly perspective.penguin wrote:Gwyn Jones bitching that the Dragons shouldn't have signed Henson. Old, fragile and taking spaces away from youngsters.
I get the point but already he's getting a lot of praise for his coaching of the youngsters, and being a role model with his work ethic. He's a publicity machine - the welsh press still clamour to get him involved in any story, so the Dragons, admittedly with lots to focus on right now, are getting lots of attention. So how many games does Henson have to play to be a worthy signing? I don't think that much. He's already doing most of what he is paid for in marketing and coaching, the playing is almost a bonus.
I live just up the road but I'm away this weekend otherwise I'd be playingPoshprop wrote:
If anyone is around Dinas Powys this weekend and at loose end come down to this, good cause and maybe good fun. And if anyone is looking to dust their boots off my team has got a couple of spare places and all are welcome
Edit: Having problems with the image but it relates to the Dinas Powys 10s more details here https://www.dinaspowysrfc.co.uk/event/d ... eset_uuid=
Not one to go off on this bored, but how fcuking dare you!!!! I actually thought you were decent until you posted this shit. Stabbed in the back by a fellow Scarlet.Clive Simms wrote:Oh I see, we've won a title and now you are coming back. Where were you when we shipped 50 points to Glasgow at home?LandOTurk wrote:Just bought my flight home for a week. Will be attending Scarlets v Kings with enthusiasm.
If you need directions you have to walk behind the retail park to get access you can't go through the side by dunelm millLandOTurk wrote:Not one to go off on this bored, but how fcuking dare you!!!! I actually thought you were decent until you posted this shit. Stabbed in the back by a fellow Scarlet.Clive Simms wrote:Oh I see, we've won a title and now you are coming back. Where were you when we shipped 50 points to Glasgow at home?LandOTurk wrote:Just bought my flight home for a week. Will be attending Scarlets v Kings with enthusiasm.
I have supported the Scarlets my whole life. A season ticket holder all my adult life when living in Wales. Been through all the dross, away trips, wherever. I am actually going back for my parents' 50th wedding anniversary. Match is extra.
Llanelli is the smallest populated location for a pro rugby team in the NH, I understand. Even if I was fair weather, that's ok. As henry said, we need all the people we can get through gates.
It's myopic chunts like you who put people off. Come to every game or you're not welcome. Some people have a passing interest, others a deep love.
And don"t tell me you were just having a laugh. You meant it. What a wanker!
That's disappointing for le Blues. Was excellent last season. Back row is a strong area, so shouldn't have too much impactCrash_12 wrote:Ellis Jenkins goooone with a 'serious' hamstring injury.
Balls.
Not just him but Andy Powell, Ceri Swenney, Jamie Ringer plus other ex first class players made up the J9 team (the Joost van der Vestheizen trust) who won fairly easily. Was a cracking tournament and really well attended. Some of the games were a bit tasty too as you would expect with Dinas, Barry, Sully and Penarth vets all playing each other. Pretty sure a good amount was raised for the J9 foundation and for Leighton, local man with inoperable brain tumour.Crash_12 wrote:I live just up the road but I'm away this weekend otherwise I'd be playingPoshprop wrote:
If anyone is around Dinas Powys this weekend and at loose end come down to this, good cause and maybe good fun. And if anyone is looking to dust their boots off my team has got a couple of spare places and all are welcome
Edit: Having problems with the image but it relates to the Dinas Powys 10s more details here https://www.dinaspowysrfc.co.uk/event/d ... eset_uuid=
Heard a rumour that former Italian international scrum half Paul Griffen is turning out for one of the teams.
Scarlets could do with a back rower that will truck it up, get some balance. Boyde hasn't done a bad job to be fair, but they seem to have had an abundance of second rate 8s. Think Pitman, Allen, McCuskerpenguin wrote:A few things today - Guy Mercer being signed on loan by the Ospreys. Seems like a good signing.
Scarlets talking about trying to sign Moriarty next season. Would make their backrow look very good to have him alongside James Davies and any one of Shingler/Boyde/Barclay/McLeod.
Jackman talking about Brok Harris being their best loosehead, and having to have him there for a strong scrum...also suggesting Leon Brown is the second best tighthead behind Brok, so looks like he's going to be thrust into action from the off. Not sure I quite agree with the logic - Brok is also our best tighthead, and that is more crucial to a strong scrum. I guess he thinks the drop to our second best tighthead is less than the drop to the second best loosehead. We'll see - the scrum last years was a perpetual source of misery so competence would be a huge step up.
James Benjamin also being talked up. 'Jumbo' is apparently one of the best ball handling forwards at the Dragons, and suits the expansive game Jackman wants to play. Needs to bulk up though. Will be interesting to see how the team shapes up after all this 'starting with a blank slate' talk.
Cudd out for the season I hear. That's a blow but if they are going for a faster game then Griffiths and Benjamin offer more in the wider game. No Jackson of course so going to need a lot from Keddie this year.La heinous wrote:
Scarlets could do with a back rower that will truck it up, get some balance. Boyde hasn't done a bad job to be fair, but they seem to have had an abundance of second rate 8s. Think Pitman, Allen, McCusker
Much more important to have your best scrummager at TH, but I suppose you've got to trust a former pro hooker..... I worry about how our 2nd rows scrummage. Landman is great hanging about the wing, but I'm not sure he gives the front row much at scrum time.
Looks like we will see a first choice back row of Benjamin 6 Cudd/Ollie 7 Evans 8?
Leinster away next up. Yey.Frodder wrote:Well as a Blues fan that was pretty depressing......
Nah, Scarlets lost their first three last year, and then worked their way back into the season. Blues were poor but Edinburgh was a terrible game for them first up. Big pack, kick it all game long, organised in defence...and the Blues just looked too rusty to do anything about it. They are still going to be mid table, don't get me wrong, but I'd expect them to look better as the weeks go on.Crash_12 wrote:Leinster away next up. Yey.Frodder wrote:Well as a Blues fan that was pretty depressing......
Awful performance, Pro14 season done and dusted already you have to think.
I like you Penguin but Crash and I know the score here. That was a return to the bad ol' days and our kicking game was beyond terrible. Edinburgh were worse than us last year but we made them look like the All Blacks.penguin wrote:Nah, Scarlets lost their first three last year, and then worked their way back into the season. Blues were poor but Edinburgh was a terrible game for them first up. Big pack, kick it all game long, organised in defence...and the Blues just looked too rusty to do anything about it. They are still going to be mid table, don't get me wrong, but I'd expect them to look better as the weeks go on.Crash_12 wrote:Leinster away next up. Yey.Frodder wrote:Well as a Blues fan that was pretty depressing......
Awful performance, Pro14 season done and dusted already you have to think.
It's the Wail. It's likely bollocks or a ruse by his agent. He types desperately.GWO2 wrote:I`m starting to feel a little bit worried about the outlook with the Ospreys. Rumours flying around about discontent in the dressing room, about players preparing to leave right left and centre, Tandy not too popular but being given another three years and articles like this do nothing to cheer me up.
Rhys Webb 'on sale' in France and England amid worrying reports for Ospreys and WRU
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugb ... e-13568337
Great post, Dai. Splendidly put.Dai another day wrote:No smoke without fire. I have also heard some of these stories. Must be concerning for the Ospreys supporters.
Whilst there are feel good stories out there in Welsh rugby with the Sgarlets, and the Dragons, it appears that for the other two regions...the picture is not so rosy.
You, big man.Dai another day wrote:And what brings you to the Welsh rugby thread, hooray?
What I like about that article is that top player have CV's. Surely if you are a Director of Rugby, or are part of your clubs recruitment team, then you should probably know a Lions level scrumhalf.GWO2 wrote:I`m starting to feel a little bit worried about the outlook with the Ospreys. Rumours flying around about discontent in the dressing room, about players preparing to leave right left and centre, Tandy not too popular but being given another three years and articles like this do nothing to cheer me up.
Rhys Webb 'on sale' in France and England amid worrying reports for Ospreys and WRU
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugb ... e-13568337
Well they bought JarvisJeff the Bear wrote:What I like about that article is that top player have CV's. Surely if you are a Director of Rugby, or are part of your clubs recruitment team, then you should probably know a Lions level scrumhalf.GWO2 wrote:I`m starting to feel a little bit worried about the outlook with the Ospreys. Rumours flying around about discontent in the dressing room, about players preparing to leave right left and centre, Tandy not too popular but being given another three years and articles like this do nothing to cheer me up.
Rhys Webb 'on sale' in France and England amid worrying reports for Ospreys and WRU
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugb ... e-13568337
The more intriguing, and depressing, story however is the one about Arhip:
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugb ... p-13564864
A mid-range tighthead, but still being offered stupid money in France. I've said it before, but every Welsh region would be significantly better if they were just able to buy one quality lock, and one quality tighthead...but how are they ever going to do that when even middle of the road tightheads can command such high wages?
I imagine that the real estate is the only thing that kept Newport's past backers interested. Dave Parade's size and location, within Newport admittedly, make it worth a pretty penny. Uproar if the WRU try something similar mind.Not Frankie wrote:Heard a rumour that Newport RFC are going to leave Rodney Parade at the end of the season as the WRU have priced them out rent wise. Apparently looking to ground share with Crosskeys. Sounds like a bullmuck to me, but stranger things have happened.
Jeff the Bear wrote:What I like about that article is that top player have CV's. Surely if you are a Director of Rugby, or are part of your clubs recruitment team, then you should probably know a Lions level scrumhalf.GWO2 wrote:I`m starting to feel a little bit worried about the outlook with the Ospreys. Rumours flying around about discontent in the dressing room, about players preparing to leave right left and centre, Tandy not too popular but being given another three years and articles like this do nothing to cheer me up.
Rhys Webb 'on sale' in France and England amid worrying reports for Ospreys and WRU
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugb ... e-13568337
The more intriguing, and depressing, story however is the one about Arhip:
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugb ... p-13564864
A mid-range tighthead, but still being offered stupid money in France. I've said it before, but every Welsh region would be significantly better if they were just able to buy one quality lock, and one quality tighthead...but how are they ever going to do that when even middle of the road tightheads can command such high wages?
He'll have to do better than that - he'll be scrum half next week.La heinous wrote:Jeff the Bear wrote:What I like about that article is that top player have CV's. Surely if you are a Director of Rugby, or are part of your clubs recruitment team, then you should probably know a Lions level scrumhalf.GWO2 wrote:I`m starting to feel a little bit worried about the outlook with the Ospreys. Rumours flying around about discontent in the dressing room, about players preparing to leave right left and centre, Tandy not too popular but being given another three years and articles like this do nothing to cheer me up.
Rhys Webb 'on sale' in France and England amid worrying reports for Ospreys and WRU
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugb ... e-13568337
The more intriguing, and depressing, story however is the one about Arhip:
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugb ... p-13564864
A mid-range tighthead, but still being offered stupid money in France. I've said it before, but every Welsh region would be significantly better if they were just able to buy one quality lock, and one quality tighthead...but how are they ever going to do that when even middle of the road tightheads can command such high wages?
You've explained why Jackman is intent on disguising Brok as a loosehead.
I'm not sure coaches know what to do with Sarel. He's a great athlete and a dangerous attacking player, but maybe not the steady 9 that Jackman is looking for? Charlie Davies is okay, steady, dependable, but nothing more, so you've got one extreme to the other with mongo chops Knoyle in the middle.cubby boi wrote:So where was your saffer scrum half and why was Landman on the bench? They've easily been your 2 best players over the past couple of seasons.
Also, not convinced by Gav, and Benjamin is very over-rated. Should have backed Scott Matthews. Much better player.
I think Sarel was injured...otherwise he would be ideal for the fast, open game that Jackman wants. Landman is more of a curiosity - a combo of him and Hill would seem the obvious choice. Also thought that Max Williams looked huge when he came on, standing next to Landman and he was as big, so look forward to seeing more of him. Couple of nice touches too.Not Frankie wrote:I'm not sure coaches know what to do with Sarel. He's a great athlete and a dangerous attacking player, but maybe not the steady 9 that Jackman is looking for? Charlie Davies is okay, steady, dependable, but nothing more, so you've got one extreme to the other with mongo chops Knoyle in the middle.cubby boi wrote:So where was your saffer scrum half and why was Landman on the bench? They've easily been your 2 best players over the past couple of seasons.
Also, not convinced by Gav, and Benjamin is very over-rated. Should have backed Scott Matthews. Much better player.
Haven't a clue why Landman didn't start? especially as he's the heaviest forward in the squad apparently. The Dragons pack probably being one of the youngest and lightweight in the Pro14.
Screech isn't up to much is he? we need a Charteris type to compliment Landman.
I think the thing with Jumbo is his speed. He's not the biggest, but then, neither is Cudd, and that's never stopped him. We're going to miss Cudd, as is said, "No-one chews the Cudd".penguin wrote:I think Sarel was injured...otherwise he would be ideal for the fast, open game that Jackman wants. Landman is more of a curiosity - a combo of him and Hill would seem the obvious choice. Also thought that Max Williams looked huge when he came on, standing next to Landman and he was as big, so look forward to seeing more of him. Couple of nice touches too.Not Frankie wrote:I'm not sure coaches know what to do with Sarel. He's a great athlete and a dangerous attacking player, but maybe not the steady 9 that Jackman is looking for? Charlie Davies is okay, steady, dependable, but nothing more, so you've got one extreme to the other with mongo chops Knoyle in the middle.cubby boi wrote:So where was your saffer scrum half and why was Landman on the bench? They've easily been your 2 best players over the past couple of seasons.
Also, not convinced by Gav, and Benjamin is very over-rated. Should have backed Scott Matthews. Much better player.
Haven't a clue why Landman didn't start? especially as he's the heaviest forward in the squad apparently. The Dragons pack probably being one of the youngest and lightweight in the Pro14.
Screech isn't up to much is he? we need a Charteris type to compliment Landman.
Benjamin will probably fade into the background when Griffiths and Evans are back, but who knows, perhaps there is more to him than we've seen.
Cudd was good for an attritional game. Maybe we are moving beyond that as a game plan. Let's hope so.Not Frankie wrote:
I think the thing with Jumbo is his speed. He's not the biggest, but then, neither is Cudd, and that's never stopped him. We're going to miss Cudd, as is said, "No-one chews the Cudd".
We do so well for BR's in Wales. We need to trade with the Saes for a couple of their Locks (not Kruis though)penguin wrote:Cudd was good for an attritional game. Maybe we are moving beyond that as a game plan. Let's hope so.Not Frankie wrote:
I think the thing with Jumbo is his speed. He's not the biggest, but then, neither is Cudd, and that's never stopped him. We're going to miss Cudd, as is said, "No-one chews the Cudd".
I think we're moving towards a decent pack (by our standards) - but if we want open rugby then Landman would seem to be the obvious choice. He's made for that sort of game.
Griffiths at 6, Benjamin at 7, Keddie at 8? It's bloody raw, but could be interesting. I wouldn't discount seeing more of Max Williams at 6.
Kruis is exactly the sort of player we need. He had a poor Lions tour but he is top quality I reckon.Frodder wrote:We do so well for BR's in Wales. We need to trade with the Saes for a couple of their Locks (not Kruis though)penguin wrote:Cudd was good for an attritional game. Maybe we are moving beyond that as a game plan. Let's hope so.Not Frankie wrote:
I think the thing with Jumbo is his speed. He's not the biggest, but then, neither is Cudd, and that's never stopped him. We're going to miss Cudd, as is said, "No-one chews the Cudd".
I think we're moving towards a decent pack (by our standards) - but if we want open rugby then Landman would seem to be the obvious choice. He's made for that sort of game.
Griffiths at 6, Benjamin at 7, Keddie at 8? It's bloody raw, but could be interesting. I wouldn't discount seeing more of Max Williams at 6.
Harris-Dee-Brown-Landman-Williams would be quite a hefty front 5. We may not be the best scrummagers still but they should be able to lean effectively on the opposition from time to time.cubby boi wrote:I hope they don't mess Williams about at 6.
When I read your post, I thought, Bloody Hell, Why did his parents give him a monika like that. (Then realised I had just had a senior momentpenguin wrote:
Harris-Dee-Brown-Landman-Williams would be quite a hefty front 5. We may not be the best scrummagers still but they should be able to lean effectively on the opposition from time to time.
)penguin wrote:I think Sarel was injured...otherwise he would be ideal for the fast, open game that Jackman wants. Landman is more of a curiosity - a combo of him and Hill would seem the obvious choice. Also thought that Max Williams looked huge when he came on, standing next to Landman and he was as big, so look forward to seeing more of him. Couple of nice touches too.Not Frankie wrote:I'm not sure coaches know what to do with Sarel. He's a great athlete and a dangerous attacking player, but maybe not the steady 9 that Jackman is looking for? Charlie Davies is okay, steady, dependable, but nothing more, so you've got one extreme to the other with mongo chops Knoyle in the middle.cubby boi wrote:So where was your saffer scrum half and why was Landman on the bench? They've easily been your 2 best players over the past couple of seasons.
Also, not convinced by Gav, and Benjamin is very over-rated. Should have backed Scott Matthews. Much better player.
Haven't a clue why Landman didn't start? especially as he's the heaviest forward in the squad apparently. The Dragons pack probably being one of the youngest and lightweight in the Pro14.
Screech isn't up to much is he? we need a Charteris type to compliment Landman.
Benjamin will probably fade into the background when Griffiths and Evans are back, but who knows, perhaps there is more to him than we've seen.
