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PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2019 10:43 am 
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Interesting the twitter user who made the McDonalds allegations has removed their twitter profile from what I can see :yawn:


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Interesting the twitter user who made the McDonalds allegations has removed their twitter profile from what I can see :yawn:


Getting spammed by millions of incels probably isn't fun.


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Steph Dyhrberg is on the case, she will sort it all out.


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The Saffas get busted cold with tv footage as proof cheating in a game of rugby and within hours have managed to rustle up a mass diversion based on character assassination and zero proof. Nasty stuff, if not unfamiliar.

We know where the guilt lies here, gents.


Aye, despicable skulduggery is ingrained in their culture.


You're scraping the bottom of the barrel now, gents.


Of for sure. It's like removing barnacles, or draining the swamp.

Careening is the word you’re looking for, Ted


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The Mo’unga accuser originally tweeted that the player in question had replied to her and apologised, and that because of this she wasn’t going to name him and would leave it there. Wonder what changed her mind.


Brown envelopes and whispers being passed in the shadowy corridors of the WP union


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How's the presentation of evidence for this going?


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How's the presentation of evidence for this going?


:lol: Of course your holier than thou Crusaders boys are pure as the driven snow and shall be completely exonerated of these baseless allegations.


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Here is a Radio NZ interview with one of the complainants from the McDonalds. He is clearly an angry young man.

https://www.rnz.co.nz/audio/player?audio_id=2018695950

If you go to about 4min 10s in the interview he talks about how they experience this sort of thing "day, after day, after day" in South Africa and they are "tired of straight white men acting like this".

Seems there is a strong homophobic undercurrent in the republic ... or the Crusaders spend a lot of time there. :?


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How's the presentation of evidence for this going?


:lol: Of course your holier than thou Crusaders boys are pure as the driven snow and shall be completely exonerated of these baseless allegations.

I suspect it is more a political thing, Bridge is a Left Winger after all...


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Here is a Radio NZ interview with one of the complainants from the McDonalds. He is clearly an angry young man.

https://www.rnz.co.nz/audio/player?audio_id=2018695950

If you go to about 4min 10s in the interview he talks about how they experience this sort of thing "day, after day, after day" in South Africa and they are "tired of straight white men acting like this".

Seems there is a strong homophobic undercurrent in the republic ... or the Crusaders spend a lot of time there. :?

Straight white men are probably in the minority in Cape Town.


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Mr Mike wrote:
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How's the presentation of evidence for this going?


:lol: Of course your holier than thou Crusaders boys are pure as the driven snow and shall be completely exonerated of these baseless allegations.

I suspect it is more a political thing, Bridge is a Left Winger after all...


Yet Mo'unga is all over the place, left of centre one minute, right of centre the next, coming inside the left winger, then coming outside the right. ;)


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so new 10, 11 and 15 for the next game? Hunt , Leicester (did he go?) and Ennor ..would be silly to play those 3 cause they won't be right in the head for that game..


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Ted. wrote:
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How's the presentation of evidence for this going?


:lol: Of course your holier than thou Crusaders boys are pure as the driven snow and shall be completely exonerated of these baseless allegations.

I suspect it is more a political thing, Bridge is a Left Winger after all...


Yet Mo'unga is all over the place, left of centre one minute, right of centre the next, coming inside the left winger, then coming outside the right. ;)

He's populist ... the people's 10.


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JB1981 wrote:
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How's the presentation of evidence for this going?


:lol: Of course your holier than thou Crusaders boys are pure as the driven snow and shall be completely exonerated of these baseless allegations.

I suspect it is more a political thing, Bridge is a Left Winger after all...


Yet Mo'unga is all over the place, left of centre one minute, right of centre the next, coming inside the left winger, then coming outside the right. ;)

He's populist ... the people's 10.


And with these groping allegations... Rugby’s Donald Trump?


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The usual threadjacking in full swing...

Mounga has a different set of circumstances to answer for and his situation doesn’t look good at all.

The accuser involved in the MacDonalds case claimed they were going to present supporting evidence over a day ago. There’s been nothing... not a peep. I would have thought that considering the urgency they expressed in getting the accusations out there initially, they’d be equally keen to get their supporting evidence out there as well...

most reasonable people would understand the principle at play here. Some may have their vision obscured with the smoke from their burning stakes.


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Jesus, mocking gays and pinching bums. I mentioned the danger of a different culture infiltrating the chaste Crusaders but I didn’t expect ROG to do his much damage so quickly. :shock:


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Honestly sounds like players need to be more careful with themselves and drinking, not worth getting completely blotto like Mounga did, hes potentially putting a lot at risk, if you cannot remember the night before you failed end of, its just too much at stake, thats bad behavior, but the high profile takes it to another level.


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I actually think the thread title should be Crusader's players have drinking problem!! I actually a bit pissed that Mounga was apparently so pissed he cannot remember what he was doing. Sounds like the start of a problem to me!


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Mr Mike wrote:
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How's the presentation of evidence for this going?


:lol: Of course your holier than thou Crusaders boys are pure as the driven snow and shall be completely exonerated of these baseless allegations.

I suspect it is more a political thing, Bridge is a Left Winger after all...


Well played sir. :D :thumbup:


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The usual threadjacking in full swing...

Mounga has a different set of circumstances to answer for and his situation doesn’t look good at all.

The accuser involved in the MacDonalds case claimed they were going to present supporting evidence over a day ago. There’s been nothing... not a peep. I would have thought that considering the urgency they expressed in getting the accusations out there initially, they’d be equally keen to get their supporting evidence out there as well...

most reasonable people would understand the principle at play here. Some may have their vision obscured with the smoke from their burning stakes.


Seems like the accuser is waiting for maccas to release the CCTV footage. The Golden Arches are holding this whole thing back.

I must say I’m surprised all players are clear to play. Standard procedure seems to be you are stood down while you are investigated, no?


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I actually think the thread title should be Crusader's players have drinking problem!! I actually a bit pissed that Mounga was apparently so pissed he cannot remember what he was doing. Sounds like the start of a problem to me!


well atleast he isn't BFF with Zac Guildford :P


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The usual threadjacking in full swing...

Mounga has a different set of circumstances to answer for and his situation doesn’t look good at all.

The accuser involved in the MacDonalds case claimed they were going to present supporting evidence over a day ago. There’s been nothing... not a peep. I would have thought that considering the urgency they expressed in getting the accusations out there initially, they’d be equally keen to get their supporting evidence out there as well...

most reasonable people would understand the principle at play here. Some may have their vision obscured with the smoke from their burning stakes.


Seems like the accuser is waiting for maccas to release the CCTV footage. The Golden Arches are holding this whole thing back.

I must say I’m surprised all players are clear to play. Standard procedure seems to be you are stood down while you are investigated, no?


Isn't that an NRL thing


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booji boy wrote:
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How's the presentation of evidence for this going?


:lol: Of course your holier than thou Crusaders boys are pure as the driven snow and shall be completely exonerated of these baseless allegations.

I suspect it is more a political thing, Bridge is a Left Winger after all...


Well played sir. :D :thumbup:

This may surprise you ;) but I wish the Robertson would move him to the right!


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Folau was stood down before being found guilty. I’m sure there are others in union.


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UncleFB wrote:
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How's the presentation of evidence for this going?


:lol: Of course your holier than thou Crusaders boys are pure as the driven snow and shall be completely exonerated of these baseless allegations.

I suspect it is more a political thing, Bridge is a Left Winger after all...


Well played sir. :D :thumbup:

This may surprise you ;) but I wish the Robertson would move him to the right!



Yup... but then again, haters want everything to move to the right.

Your hate has consumed you.


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Ted. wrote:
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How's the presentation of evidence for this going?


:lol: Of course your holier than thou Crusaders boys are pure as the driven snow and shall be completely exonerated of these baseless allegations.

I suspect it is more a political thing, Bridge is a Left Winger after all...


Yet Mo'unga is all over the place, left of centre one minute, right of centre the next, coming inside the left winger, then coming outside the right. ;)



He is clearly not homophobic then. It would appear the left winger would be happy to back that up. Possibly the right winger too.


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Folau was stood down before being found guilty. I’m sure there are others in union.


There was no doubt though, short of a late-in-the-day hacking claim, that Folau was the party at fault - whatever you think of his message and it's validity.

There's plenty of doubt in the Crusaders' case.


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Ted. wrote:
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How's the presentation of evidence for this going?


:lol: Of course your holier than thou Crusaders boys are pure as the driven snow and shall be completely exonerated of these baseless allegations.

I suspect it is more a political thing, Bridge is a Left Winger after all...


Yet Mo'unga is all over the place, left of centre one minute, right of centre the next, coming inside the left winger, then coming outside the right. ;)



He is clearly not homophobic then. It would appear the left winger would be happy to back that up. Possibly the right winger too.


apparently the left winger is homophobic himself and the right likes to beat up women so neither can submitted as trusted witnesses.. :twisted: :twisted:


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The players should be punished for eating in McDonalds.


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I once ordered food from maccas and suffice to say I was disappointed. When I got home my burger was missing a top bun and one of my kids mcnugget was either broken in half or someone got peckish and took a bite. Don't know how this guy can expect them to have cctv footage. They probably never even put a tape in the recorder.


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Folau was stood down before being found guilty. I’m sure there are others in union.


There was no doubt though, short of a late-in-the-day hacking claim, that Folau was the party at fault - whatever you think of his message and it's validity.

There's plenty of doubt in the Crusaders' case.


That shouldn’t matter should it? Either players are stood down while they are investigated, or they aren’t. Presumed guilty or innocent shouldn’t come into it. Actually, it’s quite alarming that it could.

As an aside, hard to imagine the Mo will be fully exonerated when he himself admits he can’t remember the evening.


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That shouldn’t matter should it? Either players are stood down while they are investigated, or they aren’t. Presumed guilty or innocent shouldn’t come into it. Actually, it’s quite alarming that it could.



oooooookaaaayyyy


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This is why Jordie Barrett likes to enjoy his McDonalds from the comfort of someone else's home. To avoid all this palaver


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Folau was stood down before being found guilty. I’m sure there are others in union.


There was no doubt though, short of a late-in-the-day hacking claim, that Folau was the party at fault - whatever you think of his message and it's validity.

There's plenty of doubt in the Crusaders' case.


That shouldn’t matter should it? Either players are stood down while they are investigated, or they aren’t. Presumed guilty or innocent shouldn’t come into it. Actually, it’s quite alarming that it could.

As an aside, hard to imagine the Mo will be fully exonerated when he himself admits he can’t remember the evening.


How many players do you think you’d keep on the the field if they stood down everyone who received an allegation on social media? It would be an interesting tactic for opposition fans; Beauden called me a nancy boy in Burger King, I demand you investigate and that he can’t play against the Chiefs this week etc


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It’s a genuine question Smiley. I read an article on stuff recently about whether it was right to allow the players in question to play. It cited several Aussie examples (including NRL) where players are stood down while investigated. However, pretty sure guilt was obvious in most cases, but I don’t think it would have changed anything if it was more contentious.


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It’s a genuine question Smiley. I read an article on stuff recently about whether it was right to allow the players in question to play. It cited several Aussie examples (including NRL) where players are stood down while investigated. However, pretty sure guilt was obvious in most cases, but I don’t think it would have changed anything if it was more contentious.


The NRL have done it for players facing serious criminal charges that carry a potential 10+ year sentence


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naki wrote:
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Folau was stood down before being found guilty. I’m sure there are others in union.


There was no doubt though, short of a late-in-the-day hacking claim, that Folau was the party at fault - whatever you think of his message and it's validity.

There's plenty of doubt in the Crusaders' case.


That shouldn’t matter should it? Either players are stood down while they are investigated, or they aren’t. Presumed guilty or innocent shouldn’t come into it. Actually, it’s quite alarming that it could.

As an aside, hard to imagine the Mo will be fully exonerated when he himself admits he can’t remember the evening.


How many players do you think you’d keep on the the field if they stood down everyone who received an allegation on social media? It would be an interesting tactic for opposition fans; Beauden called me a nancy boy in Burger King, I demand you investigate and that he can’t play against the Chiefs this week etc


Only if it warrants an investigation (which becomes an issue in its own right I guess). Problem we have is that some people might think the crusaders aren’t taking this seriously after seeing others like Folau stood down. Though, appointing that lawyer (who wont be afraid to call it if she sees it) likely fixed that.

For what it’s worth, sounds like Bridge did sfa but mo is a bit more questionable.


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It’s a genuine question Smiley. I read an article on stuff recently about whether it was right to allow the players in question to play. It cited several Aussie examples (including NRL) where players are stood down while investigated. However, pretty sure guilt was obvious in most cases, but I don’t think it would have changed anything if it was more contentious.


The NRL have done it for players facing serious criminal charges that carry a potential 10+ year sentence


Cool, well the article I read could’ve fucken mentioned that!


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naki wrote:
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It’s a genuine question Smiley. I read an article on stuff recently about whether it was right to allow the players in question to play. It cited several Aussie examples (including NRL) where players are stood down while investigated. However, pretty sure guilt was obvious in most cases, but I don’t think it would have changed anything if it was more contentious.


The NRL have done it for players facing serious criminal charges that carry a potential 10+ year sentence


As Naki has already pointed out, all it takes is for me to unleash a social media torrent of accusation about Beauden Barrett and you'd have him stood down.

anyone have his Insta handle?


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It’s a genuine question Smiley. I read an article on stuff recently about whether it was right to allow the players in question to play. It cited several Aussie examples (including NRL) where players are stood down while investigated. However, pretty sure guilt was obvious in most cases, but I don’t think it would have changed anything if it was more contentious.


The NRL have done it for players facing serious criminal charges that carry a potential 10+ year sentence


As Naki has already pointed out, all it takes is for me to unleash a social media torrent of accusation about Beauden Barrett and you'd have him stood down.

anyone have his Insta handle?


Don’t worry, your Cruelsaders have already finished with him for the season


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naki wrote:
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naki wrote:
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It’s a genuine question Smiley. I read an article on stuff recently about whether it was right to allow the players in question to play. It cited several Aussie examples (including NRL) where players are stood down while investigated. However, pretty sure guilt was obvious in most cases, but I don’t think it would have changed anything if it was more contentious.


The NRL have done it for players facing serious criminal charges that carry a potential 10+ year sentence


As Naki has already pointed out, all it takes is for me to unleash a social media torrent of accusation about Beauden Barrett and you'd have him stood down.

anyone have his Insta handle?


Don’t worry, your Cruelsaders have already finished with him for the season


I was thinking a little further ahead Nakidude...

sometime around late September... early November.


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