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https://www.iol.co.za/capeargus/sport/w ... uls-559844mojo wrote:Trying to remember who it was that emerged from the bottom of a ruck with one of Smith's dreadlocks? Burger?
Must sting a bit to have a dreadlock pulled out...
Oh no! Was Justin okay?farmerdave wrote:Awesome player. Quite different to Richie, a better thief. One blemish, that one bit of thuggery that a previous poster couldn't recall, targeting Marshalls ribs with a very late one.
He was permanently brain damaged, haven't you heard him talk?Thomas wrote:Oh no! Was Justin okay?farmerdave wrote:Awesome player. Quite different to Richie, a better thief. One blemish, that one bit of thuggery that a previous poster couldn't recall, targeting Marshalls ribs with a very late one.
Martin Johnson has something like 500 from memory, but most of that was Easy Rugby whereas Smith played everywhere from the plains of the Serengeti to the bustling fish markets of Fuchu.Zakar wrote:Has to have the record for # of first class games, or near enough to it.
Mostly in an easier era too. Georgie at age 38 has been playing against kids that spent 5 years juicing prior to lacing up the boots for a pro start. He spent his time prior to his first pro start smashing waves.naki wrote:Martin Johnson has something like 500 from memory, but most of that was Easy Rugby whereas Smith played everywhere from the plains of the Serengeti to the bustling fish markets of Fuchu.Zakar wrote:Has to have the record for # of first class games, or near enough to it.
Pretty sure Parisse holds the record.naki wrote:Martin Johnson has something like 500 from memory, but most of that was Easy Rugby whereas Smith played everywhere from the plains of the Serengeti to the bustling fish markets of Fuchu.Zakar wrote:Has to have the record for # of first class games, or near enough to it.
That is a pretty strong accusation of PED use. Do you mean throughout the entirety of his career, or just his season at Bristol?Zakar wrote:Mostly in an easier era too. Georgie at age 38 has been playing against kids that spent 5 years juicing prior to lacing up the boots for a pro start. He spent his time prior to his first pro start smashing waves.naki wrote:Martin Johnson has something like 500 from memory, but most of that was Easy Rugby whereas Smith played everywhere from the plains of the Serengeti to the bustling fish markets of Fuchu.Zakar wrote:Has to have the record for # of first class games, or near enough to it.
Have you read that post correctly?Mick Mannock wrote:That is a pretty strong accusation of PED use. Do you mean throughout the entirety of his career, or just his season at Bristol?Zakar wrote:Mostly in an easier era too. Georgie at age 38 has been playing against kids that spent 5 years juicing prior to lacing up the boots for a pro start. He spent his time prior to his first pro start smashing waves.naki wrote:Martin Johnson has something like 500 from memory, but most of that was Easy Rugby whereas Smith played everywhere from the plains of the Serengeti to the bustling fish markets of Fuchu.Zakar wrote:Has to have the record for # of first class games, or near enough to it.
Too bad it was his rib and not his mouth or tongueThomas wrote:Oh no! Was Justin okay?farmerdave wrote:Awesome player. Quite different to Richie, a better thief. One blemish, that one bit of thuggery that a previous poster couldn't recall, targeting Marshalls ribs with a very late one.
It was Martin Johnson who attempted to break his jaw.Harden up!!! wrote:Too bad it was his rib and not his mouth or tongueThomas wrote:Oh no! Was Justin okay?farmerdave wrote:Awesome player. Quite different to Richie, a better thief. One blemish, that one bit of thuggery that a previous poster couldn't recall, targeting Marshalls ribs with a very late one.
Typical english, can't do the job right, was it bakkies who succeeded? or was that only on kellerher?booji boy wrote:It was Martin Johnson who attempted to break his jaw.Harden up!!! wrote:Too bad it was his rib and not his mouth or tongueThomas wrote:Oh no! Was Justin okay?farmerdave wrote:Awesome player. Quite different to Richie, a better thief. One blemish, that one bit of thuggery that a previous poster couldn't recall, targeting Marshalls ribs with a very late one.
It was Cowan he headbutted from behind while simulating riding himHarden up!!! wrote:Typical english, can't do the job right, was it bakkies who succeeded? or was that only on kellerher?booji boy wrote:It was Martin Johnson who attempted to break his jaw.Harden up!!! wrote:Too bad it was his rib and not his mouth or tongueThomas wrote:Oh no! Was Justin okay?farmerdave wrote:Awesome player. Quite different to Richie, a better thief. One blemish, that one bit of thuggery that a previous poster couldn't recall, targeting Marshalls ribs with a very late one.
It was V Matfield and the reinforced arm guard vs Kelleher.Harden up!!! wrote:Typical english, can't do the job right, was it bakkies who succeeded? or was that only on kellerher?booji boy wrote:It was Martin Johnson who attempted to break his jaw.Harden up!!! wrote:Too bad it was his rib and not his mouth or tongueThomas wrote:Oh no! Was Justin okay?farmerdave wrote:Awesome player. Quite different to Richie, a better thief. One blemish, that one bit of thuggery that a previous poster couldn't recall, targeting Marshalls ribs with a very late one.
Well it was a dirty sucker punch from behind which was typical of Johnson's thuggish behavior. Can't find video of it but here is an article from the time. It's an English paper but they don't hold back in their assessment of the crime.Harden up!!! wrote:Typical english, can't do the job right, was it bakkies who succeeded? or was that only on kellerher?booji boy wrote: It was Martin Johnson who attempted to break his jaw.
Martin Johnson, last summer's Lions captain, punched his full weight during England's 25-8 defeat by New Zealand at Old Trafford on Saturday. Sadly, he also punched Justin Marshall, the All Blacks captain, and earned himself a one-match suspension. Chris Hewett says the Leicester lock had it coming.
If the first was an aberration and the second an unfortunate coincidence, a third punch in the space of seven England Tests was always likely to send Martin Johnson up before the beak. The Leicester captain was yesterday hauled over the coals by Roger Uttley and the rest of the England management, who suspended him from this weekend's Twickenham Test with South Africa.
Johnson's penchant for the bare-knuckle stuff cost his countrymen tries against both Argentina and Wales last season and it will cost them once again on Saturday. Given the world-class lock's success against the Springboks during the Lions' tour, Uttley and the rest of the national hierarchy know they have sacrificed a major, almost irreplaceable asset on the twin altars of discipline and diplomacy.
John Hart, the New Zealand coach, was almost incandescent with anger after spotting Johnson's inexcusable punch from behind on Justin Marshall, six minutes into the weekend Test in Manchester - a blow that affected the scrum-half's hearing and raised fears of a broken jaw. While he refused to name Johnson, Hart described the act as one of "outright thuggery from someone who should know better" and indicated his intention to set in motion rugby's complicated and wholly unsatisfactory citing process.
booji boy wrote:Well it was a dirty sucker punch from behind which was typical of Johnson's thuggish behavior. Can't find video of it but here is an article from the time. It's an English paper but they don't hold back in their assessment of the crime.Harden up!!! wrote:Typical english, can't do the job right, was it bakkies who succeeded? or was that only on kellerher?booji boy wrote: It was Martin Johnson who attempted to break his jaw.
https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/rug ... 95940.html
Martin Johnson, last summer's Lions captain, punched his full weight during England's 25-8 defeat by New Zealand at Old Trafford on Saturday. Sadly, he also punched Justin Marshall, the All Blacks captain, and earned himself a one-match suspension. Chris Hewett says the Leicester lock had it coming.
If the first was an aberration and the second an unfortunate coincidence, a third punch in the space of seven England Tests was always likely to send Martin Johnson up before the beak. The Leicester captain was yesterday hauled over the coals by Roger Uttley and the rest of the England management, who suspended him from this weekend's Twickenham Test with South Africa.
Johnson's penchant for the bare-knuckle stuff cost his countrymen tries against both Argentina and Wales last season and it will cost them once again on Saturday. Given the world-class lock's success against the Springboks during the Lions' tour, Uttley and the rest of the national hierarchy know they have sacrificed a major, almost irreplaceable asset on the twin altars of discipline and diplomacy.
John Hart, the New Zealand coach, was almost incandescent with anger after spotting Johnson's inexcusable punch from behind on Justin Marshall, six minutes into the weekend Test in Manchester - a blow that affected the scrum-half's hearing and raised fears of a broken jaw. While he refused to name Johnson, Hart described the act as one of "outright thuggery from someone who should know better" and indicated his intention to set in motion rugby's complicated and wholly unsatisfactory citing process.
that england side had its fair share of punchy types - Dallaglio i remember blindside punching Thinus Delport after the whistle right in front of the touch-judge at WC2003 with not a word said.ForzaIt wrote:
Coward's punch. Would get 12+ weeks nowadays.
Smith better than Jones, though the names go well together.mojo wrote:OK, slight hyperbole maybe (Jones was probably a bit better), but George Smith has finally hung up the boots ...
https://www.foxsports.com.au/rugby/wall ... 7eeb87b963One of the great Australian rugby careers is finally over after George Smith announced his retirement following 20 years of yeoman service.
Smith’s short-term contract with English club Bristol finished over the weekend, leaving the 38-year-old to announce he would end a professional tenure that had encompassed half his life, beginning as a dreadlocked teenager with the Brumbies in 2000.
His first of 111 Tests followed that year and he became fixture on the openside flank for a decade, rarely dropping his standards and being widely acknowledged as one of his country’s finest performers.
It's a shame his time playing for NZ colts turned him into such a thugForzaIt wrote:booji boy wrote:Well it was a dirty sucker punch from behind which was typical of Johnson's thuggish behavior. Can't find video of it but here is an article from the time. It's an English paper but they don't hold back in their assessment of the crime.Harden up!!! wrote:Typical english, can't do the job right, was it bakkies who succeeded? or was that only on kellerher?booji boy wrote: It was Martin Johnson who attempted to break his jaw.
https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/rug ... 95940.html
Martin Johnson, last summer's Lions captain, punched his full weight during England's 25-8 defeat by New Zealand at Old Trafford on Saturday. Sadly, he also punched Justin Marshall, the All Blacks captain, and earned himself a one-match suspension. Chris Hewett says the Leicester lock had it coming.
If the first was an aberration and the second an unfortunate coincidence, a third punch in the space of seven England Tests was always likely to send Martin Johnson up before the beak. The Leicester captain was yesterday hauled over the coals by Roger Uttley and the rest of the England management, who suspended him from this weekend's Twickenham Test with South Africa.
Johnson's penchant for the bare-knuckle stuff cost his countrymen tries against both Argentina and Wales last season and it will cost them once again on Saturday. Given the world-class lock's success against the Springboks during the Lions' tour, Uttley and the rest of the national hierarchy know they have sacrificed a major, almost irreplaceable asset on the twin altars of discipline and diplomacy.
John Hart, the New Zealand coach, was almost incandescent with anger after spotting Johnson's inexcusable punch from behind on Justin Marshall, six minutes into the weekend Test in Manchester - a blow that affected the scrum-half's hearing and raised fears of a broken jaw. While he refused to name Johnson, Hart described the act as one of "outright thuggery from someone who should know better" and indicated his intention to set in motion rugby's complicated and wholly unsatisfactory citing process.
Johnson (4) punch on Marshall
Coward's punch. Would get 12+ weeks nowadays.
That's presumably why Johnson thumped him.ForzaIt wrote:It is funny seeing how offside Marshall is.
Was he? IIRC the offside at ruck laws were completely different back then (not saying definitively he wasn't just that I'm not sure the rucks were reffed the same back then).ForzaIt wrote:It is funny seeing how offside Marshall is.
This is your stupidest post ever, and I'm including all the IF thread ones.mightyreds wrote:Smith better than Jones, though the names go well together.mojo wrote:OK, slight hyperbole maybe (Jones was probably a bit better), but George Smith has finally hung up the boots ...
https://www.foxsports.com.au/rugby/wall ... 7eeb87b963One of the great Australian rugby careers is finally over after George Smith announced his retirement following 20 years of yeoman service.
Smith’s short-term contract with English club Bristol finished over the weekend, leaving the 38-year-old to announce he would end a professional tenure that had encompassed half his life, beginning as a dreadlocked teenager with the Brumbies in 2000.
His first of 111 Tests followed that year and he became fixture on the openside flank for a decade, rarely dropping his standards and being widely acknowledged as one of his country’s finest performers.
FTFYZakar wrote:1. McCaw/Jones
3. Smith
a number of other players and several years worth of daylight
Back
Fact.
Nah.Kiwias wrote:Zakar wrote:1. McCaw/Jones
3. Smith
a number of other players and several years worth of daylight
Back
Fact.
Not crap but there are several better 7s. I'd take Poidevin over Back.Zakar wrote:Nah.Kiwias wrote:Zakar wrote:1. McCaw/Jones
3. Smith
a number of other players and several years worth of daylight
Back
Fact.
Jones may be a better all around player, but he wasn't a better 7.
If you think Back was crap you've got rocks in your head mate.
You know you're lining yourself up with mightyreds (pause to let that one sink in).Zakar wrote:1. McCaw
2. Smith
3. Jones
4. Back
Fact.
Jones (re)defined how a 7 plays.Jones may be a better all around player, but he wasn't a better 7.
By that logic, dunning was a better prop than Carl HaymanZakar wrote:I'm actually being generous. Back may have been better than Jones. For instance, Jones never kicked any drop goals.
Yep good point. He sure was.Kiwias wrote:By that logic, dunning was a better prop than Carl HaymanZakar wrote:I'm actually being generous. Back may have been better than Jones. For instance, Jones never kicked any drop goals.
Zakar wrote:I'm actually being generous. Back may have been better than Jones. For instance, Jones never kicked any drop goals.
That really is a brilliant photoshopZakar wrote:Yep good point. He sure was.Kiwias wrote:By that logic, dunning was a better prop than Carl HaymanZakar wrote:I'm actually being generous. Back may have been better than Jones. For instance, Jones never kicked any drop goals.
Which bit is photoshopped?Kiwias wrote:That really is a brilliant photoshopZakar wrote:Yep good point. He sure was.Kiwias wrote:By that logic, dunning was a better prop than Carl HaymanZakar wrote:I'm actually being generous. Back may have been better than Jones. For instance, Jones never kicked any drop goals.