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https://www.theguardian.com/music/2019/ ... ing-memoir

He also says that he worked with and “tried dating” Lizzy Grant (spelled in the book as Lizzie Grant), who went on to become the pop star Lana Del Rey. “She had short, bleached hair and looked like a beautiful elf … I sat next to her on the piano bench and started kissing her. She kissed me back – but then stopped. ‘What’s wrong?’ I asked. “‘I like you. But I hear you do this with a lot of people.’ I wanted to lie, to tell her that I didn’t, that I was chaste, sane, and ethical. But I said nothing.”

What kind of person writes a book about the shags they've had?


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He is a reformed heavy drug user and alcoholic by his own admission. Musical genius though


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What kind of person writes a book about the shags they've had?


At a guess, Moby?


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I was pretty disappointed reading his autobiography tbh. I was expecting some sex drugs & rock 'n roll, but it turns out he was a Jesus freak teetotaler as a teenager/early 20s and was just all round much lamer than I expected. I knew about the veganism obviously

It was interesting how him hitting the big time with Go was more an accident than anything else from his telling.


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sewa wrote:
He is a reformed heavy drug user and alcoholic by his own admission. Musical genius though


Not really, no.


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Heymans wrote:
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He is a reformed heavy drug user and alcoholic by his own admission. Musical genius though


Not really, no.

This may surprise you but you are not the sole arbiter of what is or isn't. Play is one of the great albums


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I was pretty disappointed reading his autobiography tbh. I was expecting some sex drugs & rock 'n roll, but it turns out he was a Jesus freak teetotaler as a teenager/early 20s and was just all round much lamer than I expected. I knew about the veganism obviously

It was interesting how him hitting the big time with Go was more an accident than anything else from his telling.


I dunno. I just find it creepy and weird telling complete strangers intimate details of your sex life.


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sewa wrote:
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He is a reformed heavy drug user and alcoholic by his own admission. Musical genius though


Not really, no.

This may surprise you but you are not the sole arbiter of what is or isn't. Play is one of the great albums


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Beethoven is a musical genius. Some dorky guy making 3 minute songs out of 15 seconds sampled loops isn't.


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https://www.theguardian.com/music/2019/may/22/natalie-portman-criticises-moby-friendship-dating-memoir

He also says that he worked with and “tried dating” Lizzy Grant (spelled in the book as Lizzie Grant), who went on to become the pop star Lana Del Rey. “She had short, bleached hair and looked like a beautiful elf … I sat next to her on the piano bench and started kissing her. She kissed me back – but then stopped. ‘What’s wrong?’ I asked. “‘I like you. But I hear you do this with a lot of people.’ I wanted to lie, to tell her that I didn’t, that I was chaste, sane, and ethical. But I said nothing.”

What kind of person writes a book about the shags they've had?

Who knew Moby the Dick ?



Natalie Portman is calling him a fantasist and a creepy old man.
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2019/ ... ing-memoir


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I quite like some of his music, especially the Bourne theme song - great track to run to

That thing with the penis and Trump is creepy, weird and almost certainly sexual assault...


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 Post subject: Re: Moby the player
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He's an odd bloke. I used to listen to an XFM radio show in the late 90s where they would get a band or artist to be the DJ for an hour or two. They could play some of the stuff that influenced them / their favourite tracks of the moment etc. Perhaps slipping a track off their latest album in at the end.

Moby was on it and played his own stuff for the full show.


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 Post subject: Re: Moby the player
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And Moby, you can get stomped by Obie
You thirty six year old bald headed fag, blow me
You don't know me, you're too old, let it go its over
Nobody listens to Techno

But Play is indeed one of the great electronic albums.


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I liked Everything Is Wrong. Feeling So Real sounds oh so very 90s chart techno now, but at the time it was a real bridge for fans of rock/indie music to reach across to dance. (For me, anyway, I know some will say “Madchester happened 5 years before”).


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I am Shocked !!! ... :shock: :shock: :shock:

I thought he liked blokes ... :?: :?: :?:


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Apparently he said he dated Natalie Portman for a while when she was in her 20s.

She came out and said no, he was a creepy 30 something hitting on her when she was 18. :lol:


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I thought this might be about Alex King or Brendan Leonard. Carry on ...


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30 year old hitting on a 18 yr old child......

Dirty old man... LOL

Reminds me of a Benny Hill episode..........


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Anybody who liked Play went in the poor musical taste category, sacrine over work shit for the masses


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Sensible Stephen wrote:
Apparently he said he dated Natalie Portman for a while when she was in her 20s.

She came out and said no, he was a creepy 30 something hitting on her when she was 18. :lol:



Her saying she didn't and he was a creepy old dude has hurt his feelings

Now he is saying she is just embarrassed they dated

Weeeiiiirrrrddddoooooo

https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-48365294


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So more like Moby Dick, amirite?


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Glaston wrote:
Natalie Portman is calling him a fantasist and a creepy old man.
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2019/ ... ing-memoir

Moby's take sounds realistic enough tbh. She would hardly be the first young aspiring actress latching on to a music star even if she doesn't want to admit it after she became big-time. By her own words, they clearly put in time together.
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"I was a fan and went to one of his shows when I had just graduated. He was on tour and I was working shooting a film, so we only hung out a handful of times..."


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Newsome wrote:
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2019/may/22/natalie-portman-criticises-moby-friendship-dating-memoir

He also says that he worked with and “tried dating” Lizzy Grant (spelled in the book as Lizzie Grant), who went on to become the pop star Lana Del Rey. “She had short, bleached hair and looked like a beautiful elf … I sat next to her on the piano bench and started kissing her. She kissed me back – but then stopped. ‘What’s wrong?’ I asked. “‘I like you. But I hear you do this with a lot of people.’ I wanted to lie, to tell her that I didn’t, that I was chaste, sane, and ethical. But I said nothing.”

What kind of person writes a book about the shags they've had?


Anthony Kiedis


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Rugby2023 wrote:
Glaston wrote:
Natalie Portman is calling him a fantasist and a creepy old man.
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2019/ ... ing-memoir

Moby's take sounds realistic enough tbh. She would hardly be the first young aspiring actress latching on to a music star even if she doesn't want to admit it after she became big-time. By her own words, they clearly put in time together.
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"I was a fan and went to one of his shows when I had just graduated. He was on tour and I was working shooting a film, so we only hung out a handful of times..."


She'd been a lead character in 3 f*cking Star Wars films, I think she was already 'big time' by that stage.....


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Glaston wrote:
Newsome wrote:
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2019/may/22/natalie-portman-criticises-moby-friendship-dating-memoir

He also says that he worked with and “tried dating” Lizzy Grant (spelled in the book as Lizzie Grant), who went on to become the pop star Lana Del Rey. “She had short, bleached hair and looked like a beautiful elf … I sat next to her on the piano bench and started kissing her. She kissed me back – but then stopped. ‘What’s wrong?’ I asked. “‘I like you. But I hear you do this with a lot of people.’ I wanted to lie, to tell her that I didn’t, that I was chaste, sane, and ethical. But I said nothing.”

What kind of person writes a book about the shags they've had?

Who knew Moby the Dick ?



Natalie Portman is calling him a fantasist and a creepy old man.
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2019/ ... ing-memoir


Those photos of her she looks uncomfortable, is that why they chose those ones?


Had no idea who moby was really, I thought it was about some rugby player named Moby, Maybe it should be Moby da Playa?


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Harveys wrote:
Newsome wrote:
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2019/may/22/natalie-portman-criticises-moby-friendship-dating-memoir

He also says that he worked with and “tried dating” Lizzy Grant (spelled in the book as Lizzie Grant), who went on to become the pop star Lana Del Rey. “She had short, bleached hair and looked like a beautiful elf … I sat next to her on the piano bench and started kissing her. She kissed me back – but then stopped. ‘What’s wrong?’ I asked. “‘I like you. But I hear you do this with a lot of people.’ I wanted to lie, to tell her that I didn’t, that I was chaste, sane, and ethical. But I said nothing.”

What kind of person writes a book about the shags they've had?


Anthony Kiedis

Every GnR book, everybody Motley Crue etc etc.


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Jay Cee Gee wrote:
Rugby2023 wrote:
Glaston wrote:
Natalie Portman is calling him a fantasist and a creepy old man.
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2019/ ... ing-memoir

Moby's take sounds realistic enough tbh. She would hardly be the first young aspiring actress latching on to a music star even if she doesn't want to admit it after she became big-time. By her own words, they clearly put in time together.
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"I was a fan and went to one of his shows when I had just graduated. He was on tour and I was working shooting a film, so we only hung out a handful of times..."


She'd been a lead character in 3 f*cking Star Wars films, I think she was already 'big time' by that stage.....

Phantom Menace came out in 99, and she wasn’t the Big Name in it. At that stage her career amounted to that and Leon, and a lot of men older than Moby typing “Amidala actress age” into Yahoo Search. Moby had the biggest album in the world that year. If either of them was a bigger star at the time, it was definitely him.


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DOB wrote:
Jay Cee Gee wrote:
Rugby2023 wrote:
Glaston wrote:
Natalie Portman is calling him a fantasist and a creepy old man.
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2019/ ... ing-memoir

Moby's take sounds realistic enough tbh. She would hardly be the first young aspiring actress latching on to a music star even if she doesn't want to admit it after she became big-time. By her own words, they clearly put in time together.
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"I was a fan and went to one of his shows when I had just graduated. He was on tour and I was working shooting a film, so we only hung out a handful of times..."


She'd been a lead character in 3 f*cking Star Wars films, I think she was already 'big time' by that stage.....

Phantom Menace came out in 99, and she wasn’t the Big Name in it. At that stage her career amounted to that and Leon, and a lot of men older than Moby typing “Amidala actress age” into Yahoo Search. Moby had the biggest album in the world that year. If either of them was a bigger star at the time, it was definitely him.


Regardless, if you've been cast as the lead in a Star Wars film, I think you've kind of made it already and don't need to be latching on to Moby to help your career (and it's f*cken Moby, FFS - he's not exactly the kind of star that becomes half of a Brangelina type power couple).


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She'd also been in the greatest blockbuster epic of our age.

Spoiler: show
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Jay Cee Gee wrote:
Regardless, if you've been cast as the lead in a Star Wars film, I think you've kind of made it already and don't need to be latching on to Moby to help your career (and it's f*cken Moby, FFS - he's not exactly the kind of star that becomes half of a Brangelina type power couple).


Fcuking JarJar had more lines than her. The kid who had the actual lead role is an archetypal cautionary tale of Hollywood disasters.


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Harveys wrote:
Newsome wrote:
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2019/may/22/natalie-portman-criticises-moby-friendship-dating-memoir

He also says that he worked with and “tried dating” Lizzy Grant (spelled in the book as Lizzie Grant), who went on to become the pop star Lana Del Rey. “She had short, bleached hair and looked like a beautiful elf … I sat next to her on the piano bench and started kissing her. She kissed me back – but then stopped. ‘What’s wrong?’ I asked. “‘I like you. But I hear you do this with a lot of people.’ I wanted to lie, to tell her that I didn’t, that I was chaste, sane, and ethical. But I said nothing.”

What kind of person writes a book about the shags they've had?


Anthony Kiedis



Weird book that one.

I know autobiographies are about the person, but Kiedis's was literally one giant wank over himself


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Has anyone seen Globus in the last couple of day?

Just sayin


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Dark wrote:
Sensible Stephen wrote:
Apparently he said he dated Natalie Portman for a while when she was in her 20s.

She came out and said no, he was a creepy 30 something hitting on her when she was 18. :lol:



Her saying she didn't and he was a creepy old dude has hurt his feelings

Now he is saying she is just embarrassed they dated

Weeeiiiirrrrddddoooooo

https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-48365294


He's handily provided a photo. What a creeper :lol:

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If you where writing your auto wouldn't you want to leave out the fact that you where 35 and dated a 18 year old?


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Hopefully he called his book “it’s over, nobody listens to techno”.


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Sensible Stephen wrote:
Apparently he said he dated Natalie Portman for a while when she was in her 20s.

She came out and said no, he was a creepy 30 something hitting on her when she was 18. :lol:


super creepy.

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Natalie Portman has denied dating Moby in her teens, calling the musician's behaviour "inappropriate".

The actress was responding to Moby's new memoir, in which he claims Portman asked him out after a show in 2001.

"I was a bald binge drinker and Natalie Portman was a beautiful movie star. But here she was in my dressing room, flirting with me," he wrote.

But Portman said the description was inaccurate, calling Moby a "creep" who overstepped his bounds.

Speaking to Harper's Bazaar, she said: "I was surprised to hear that he characterised the very short time that I knew him as dating, because my recollection is a much older man being creepy with me when I just had graduated high school.

"He said I was 20; I definitely wasn't. I was a teenager. I had just turned 18. That he used this story to sell his book was very disturbing to me."

She continued: "I was a fan and went to one of his shows when I had just graduated. He was on tour and I was working shooting a film, so we only hung out a handful of times before I realised that this was an older man who was interested in me in a way that felt inappropriate."


The musician has now responded on Instagram, insisting the pair did date and stayed friends for years.

"I recently read a gossip piece wherein Natalie Portman said that we'd never dated," he wrote. "This confused me, as we did, in fact, date.

"And after briefly dating in 1999 we remained friends for years.

"I like Natalie, and I respect her intelligence and activism.

"But, to be honest, I can't figure out why she would actively misrepresent the truth about our (albeit brief) involvement."

He added: "I completely respect Natalie's possible regret in dating me (to be fair, I would probably regret dating me, too), but it doesn't alter the actual facts of our brief romantic history."

The star says Moby's book contains several "factual errors and inventions"

The book is not the first time Moby has spoken about dating Portman. In 2008, he told Spin magazine they shared a "very brief affair" that made him the target of "nerd wrath".

"You can't date Luke Skywalker's mom and not have them hate your guts," he said, referring to Portman's role in the Star Wars prequels.

In his autobiography, the musician - who sold millions of copies of his 1999 album Play - describes attending the MTV Awards with the actress, and later visiting her while she attended Harvard in Boston.

"I took a taxi to Cambridge to meet Natalie. We held hands and wandered around Harvard, kissing under the centuries-old oak trees. At midnight she brought me to her dorm room and we lay down next to each other on her small bed. After she fell asleep I carefully extracted myself from her arms and took a taxi back to my hotel."

But Portman, who has become one of the leading figures in the Time's Up movement, said the book contained several "factual errors and inventions".

"There was no fact checking from him or his publisher," said the Oscar-winning star of Black Swan. "It almost feels deliberate."

The BBC has contacted Moby's publisher, Faber & Faber, for a comment but has yet to receive a response.

Elsewhere in the book, titled Things Fell Apart, the musician describes dating actress Christina Ricci and a pre-fame Lana Del Rey, then known as Lizzy Grant.

"There's a lot of [famous] names," he admitted to the Telegraph's Craig McLean, "[but] I've learned that libel is more problematic with private figures than public figures.

"If I write about dating Natalie Portman, anyone can Google and find pictures of us together, so it's not libellous.

"But if I talk about an ex-girlfriend from the mid-nineties who I had sex with on a dance floor at a Stevie Nicks club night, and she's now a mom with three kids running for city council, she could sue the hell out of me."


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He is a reformed heavy drug user and alcoholic by his own admission. Musical genius though


Not really, no.

This may surprise you but you are not the sole arbiter of what is or isn't. Play is one of the great albums


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Beethoven is a musical genius. Some dorky guy making 3 minute songs out of 15 seconds sampled loops isn't.


Very much this.... :thumbup:


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Heymans wrote:
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He is a reformed heavy drug user and alcoholic by his own admission. Musical genius though


Not really, no.

This may surprise you but you are not the sole arbiter of what is or isn't. Play is one of the great albums


Well if I'm not you aren't either. -

Beethoven is a musical genius. Some dorky guy making 3 minute songs out of 15 seconds sampled loops isn't.

Sounds like you read his penis anecdote


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Glad he got some excess out of it.

Read Electronic Punks about 20 years ago; lads had him as support act on American tour and it was tofu and banging on their hotel room door to keep the noise down all the way through.


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All the crochety old bastards who don't get techno :lol: no one expects you to grandpa


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Moby was techno? I thought he was electronic-pop?


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