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Re: European Elections 2019 - the non-Brexit bits

Posted: Sun May 26, 2019 10:59 pm
by Hellraiser
lilyw wrote:Interesting that Manfred Weber is spoken of as a big loser tonight. He had a terrible election in Germany and may have lost his shot at replacing Juncker. With Macron also weakened they are talking about Barnier as a viable candidate for president of the commission.

The Brits would love that! :lol:

Re: European Elections 2019 - the non-Brexit bits

Posted: Sun May 26, 2019 10:59 pm
by camroc1
lilyw wrote:Interesting that Manfred Weber is spoken of as a big loser tonight. He had a terrible election in Germany and may have lost his shot at replacing Juncker. With Macron also weakened they are talking about Barnier as a viable candidate for president of the commission.
With my green glasses on, that would be great for Ireland.

Re: European Elections 2019 - the non-Brexit bits

Posted: Sun May 26, 2019 10:59 pm
by iarmhiman
Hellraiser wrote:
lilyw wrote:Interesting that Manfred Weber is spoken of as a big loser tonight. He had a terrible election in Germany and may have lost his shot at replacing Juncker. With Macron also weakened they are talking about Barnier as a viable candidate for president of the commission.

The Brits would love that! :lol:
That's even worse than Juncker for the Brits.

Re: European Elections 2019 - the non-Brexit bits

Posted: Sun May 26, 2019 11:06 pm
by iarmhiman
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Provisional EU seats in parliament

Who won the European elections?

Posted: Mon May 27, 2019 8:05 am
by BBC 2
I still don't understand and am not convinced msm does. The focus seems to be who will replace May which should not matter if you are for a Eurogoligarchy.

Re: Who won the European elections?

Posted: Mon May 27, 2019 8:20 am
by comets
what i dont' get is that Farage wants Uk to be an independent uhm nation but at the same time his brexit party is running in the European elections.... brain does not compute :/

Re: Who won the European elections?

Posted: Mon May 27, 2019 8:37 am
by BBC 2
According to the BBC Brexit plebs got 40% of the vote.

Re: Who won the European elections?

Posted: Mon May 27, 2019 8:50 am
by comets
i only trust wikipedia when it comes to elections ..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Euro ... t_election

Re: Who won the European elections?

Posted: Mon May 27, 2019 10:15 am
by eldanielfire
comets wrote:what i dont' get is that Farage wants Uk to be an independent uhm nation but at the same time his brexit party is running in the European elections.... brain does not compute :/
He's out for himself. When the Brexit vote came though, he wasn't given a lordship like he wanted, got stroppy and realsied UKIP is full of racists seeing as the non-racist Brexiteers return to Tories or Labour. The withdrawal deal bollocks gave him a platform to demand unicorns again and thus no deal ever made could be good enough and he knows neither side would go with a hard deal, so everyone is a traitor. He also claims everyone involved who is not him won't ever be good enough but he knows he'll never be involved in the discussions. SO he's just an attack engine, he's even claiming the most famous Tory Brexiter Boris Johnson isn't to be trusted. He's basically here to make more fame for himself and money out of utter BS. The c#nt!

Re: European Elections 2019 - the non-Brexit bits

Posted: Mon May 27, 2019 10:16 am
by Mullet 2
FF in the hunt to deliver two and possibly three seats for Alde

Re: European Elections 2019 - the non-Brexit bits

Posted: Mon May 27, 2019 10:18 am
by iarmhiman
Mullet 2 wrote:FF in the hunt to deliver two and possibly three seats for Alde
So looks like the coalition of EPP and S&D could be gone.

EPP & ALDE & Greens could be next grand coalition.

Re: European Elections 2019 - the non-Brexit bits

Posted: Mon May 27, 2019 12:38 pm
by lilyw
Mullet 2 wrote:FF in the hunt to deliver two and possibly three seats for Alde
Anything that supports Guy Verhofstadt's vaulting ambition is bad news. He symbolises everything that is wrong with the current "project" - arrogance, constant demands for increased transfer of power to Brussels, over-riding of national vetos.......

Re: European Elections 2019 - the non-Brexit bits

Posted: Mon May 27, 2019 3:24 pm
by Witchfinder General
looks like Naomi Long will take the 3rd seat in NI with Martina Anderson topping the poll for the Shinners and dodds (the MRs) taking the 2nd seat for the DUP

Re: European Elections 2019 - the non-Brexit bits

Posted: Mon May 27, 2019 3:35 pm
by sewa
lilyw wrote:
Mullet 2 wrote:FF in the hunt to deliver two and possibly three seats for Alde
Anything that supports Guy Verhofstadt's vaulting ambition is bad news. He symbolises everything that is wrong with the current "project" - arrogance, constant demands for increased transfer of power to Brussels, over-riding of national vetos.......
So basically you want Ireland to continue using tax rules to help multinationals avoid tax indefinitely. Surely you see that this approach isn't sustainable

Re: European Elections 2019 - the non-Brexit bits

Posted: Mon May 27, 2019 3:39 pm
by Winnie
Witchfinder General wrote:looks like Naomi Long will take the 3rd seat in NI with Martina Anderson topping the poll for the Shinners and dodds (the MRs) taking the 2nd seat for the DUP
I've heard 1 and 2 are Dodds then Anderson
But Long taking the third seat for the Alliance is great

Re: European Elections 2019 - the non-Brexit bits

Posted: Mon May 27, 2019 3:44 pm
by Witchfinder General
Winnie wrote:
Witchfinder General wrote:looks like Naomi Long will take the 3rd seat in NI with Martina Anderson topping the poll for the Shinners and dodds (the MRs) taking the 2nd seat for the DUP
I've heard 1 and 2 are Dodds then Anderson
But Long taking the third seat for the Alliance is great
Im just going on tallies that i have seen, but its a great result for alliance either way.

Re: European Elections 2019 - the non-Brexit bits

Posted: Mon May 27, 2019 3:44 pm
by iarmhiman
Witchfinder General wrote:
Winnie wrote:
Witchfinder General wrote:looks like Naomi Long will take the 3rd seat in NI with Martina Anderson topping the poll for the Shinners and dodds (the MRs) taking the 2nd seat for the DUP
I've heard 1 and 2 are Dodds then Anderson
But Long taking the third seat for the Alliance is great
Im just going on tallies that i have seen, but its a great result for alliance either way.
That's another for the ALDE party with Naomi getting a seat.

Re: European Elections 2019 - the non-Brexit bits

Posted: Mon May 27, 2019 3:45 pm
by Mullet 2
For about 4 months

Re: European Elections 2019 - the non-Brexit bits

Posted: Mon May 27, 2019 3:52 pm
by lilyw
sewa wrote:
lilyw wrote:
Mullet 2 wrote:FF in the hunt to deliver two and possibly three seats for Alde
Anything that supports Guy Verhofstadt's vaulting ambition is bad news. He symbolises everything that is wrong with the current "project" - arrogance, constant demands for increased transfer of power to Brussels, over-riding of national vetos.......
So basically you want Ireland to continue using tax rules to help multinationals avoid tax indefinitely. Surely you see that this approach isn't sustainable
So long as those tax rules are there - yes.

When the OECD agrees new rules then we'll abide by them. In the meantime it's not up to the EU to decide our tax policy.

Why is the approach not sustainable? It works for our economy & it has the added advantage of pissing off lefties.

Re: European Elections 2019 - the non-Brexit bits

Posted: Mon May 27, 2019 9:17 pm
by camroc1
Witchfinder General wrote:
Winnie wrote:
Witchfinder General wrote:looks like Naomi Long will take the 3rd seat in NI with Martina Anderson topping the poll for the Shinners and dodds (the MRs) taking the 2nd seat for the DUP
I've heard 1 and 2 are Dodds then Anderson
But Long taking the third seat for the Alliance is great
Im just going on tallies that i have seen, but its a great result for alliance either way.
57% non Unionist, pro Remain vote.

The DUP will have some explaining to do in GB.

Re: European Elections 2019 - the non-Brexit bits

Posted: Mon May 27, 2019 9:34 pm
by camroc1
The DUP don't speak for NI.

Re: European Elections 2019 - the non-Brexit bits

Posted: Mon May 27, 2019 9:40 pm
by camroc1
c69 wrote:
camroc1 wrote:The DUP don't speak for NI.
Yes clearly but your post lacks substance and clarity.
57% of the electorate voted for non-Unionist (in the UK sense) parties.

That same 57% are also pro-remain (in the EU sense).

Re: European Elections 2019 - the non-Brexit bits

Posted: Mon May 27, 2019 9:50 pm
by my 2 cents
camroc1 wrote:
lilyw wrote:Interesting that Manfred Weber is spoken of as a big loser tonight. He had a terrible election in Germany and may have lost his shot at replacing Juncker. With Macron also weakened they are talking about Barnier as a viable candidate for president of the commission.
With my green glasses on, that would be great for Ireland.
:lol: with your green glasses on! That's the best one I've heard for a while. Bravo.

Re: European Elections 2019 - the non-Brexit bits

Posted: Mon May 27, 2019 9:59 pm
by camroc1
c69 wrote:
camroc1 wrote:
c69 wrote:
camroc1 wrote:The DUP don't speak for NI.
Yes clearly but your post lacks substance and clarity.
57% of the electorate voted for non-Unionist (in the UK sense) parties.

That same 57% are also pro-remain (in the EU sense).
Yes but how different is that to last EU election and why would the cnuts have to explain anything to GB?
Last euro election, and every single one before that, sent back 2 Unionist and one nationalist MEP.

To your second question it should allow your journos ask some awkward questions.

Re: European Elections 2019 - the non-Brexit bits

Posted: Mon May 27, 2019 11:34 pm
by etherman
Naomi took the second seat btw. :D