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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 8:47 am 
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How long would it take me driving from Birkenhead to Dover on a Thursday?
Off the boat at Birkenhead at 7am and need to book a ferry to Calais in the afternoon. Thinking of going for the 2.45pm one given I'll have a 3 y/o and a 1 y/o with me so there'll probably be a couple of piss stops.

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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 8:52 am 
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5 hours with no traffic delays.


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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 8:52 am 
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5.5 hours average time. Take Toll Road around Birmingham, stop at those Services, use M40 and then go past Heathrow and around the South of M25. Cobham Services are are a good stop.


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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 8:55 am 
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This is a AA route planner, not expert, view

No idea of the traffic implications as you'll get the rush hour somewhere as part of that.

But AA route planner, which is decent, suggests 5.5 hours, but that's not necessarily taking in any problems.

http://www.theaa.com/route-planner/index.jsp#fromNode=0%7CTower%20Rd,%20Birkenhead%20CH41%201FE,%20UK%7C%7C-3.016497%7C53.403220%7CtoNode=0%7CDover%20CT16%201JA,%20UK%7C%7C1.333957%7C51.127757


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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 8:56 am 
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Sandstorm wrote:
5.5 hours average time. Take Toll Road around Birmingham, stop at those Services, use M40 and then go past Heathrow and around the South of M25. Cobham Services are are a good stop.


Is anticlockwise the best way of going around the M25?
Distance-wise it looks a bit longer but happy enough if it means less traffic.


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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 8:58 am 
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Ferry, six hour drive, ferry with a 1 and a 3 year old

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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 9:01 am 
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Probaby not much difference going clockwise on the M25 but that prob involves Dartford Crossing which can be a bit shit.


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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 9:07 am 
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SamShark wrote:
Ferry, six hour drive, ferry with a 1 and a 3 year old

:uhoh:


Then on the other side driving the length of France (staying a night midway down).
Still, beats dealing with Belfast Int and Nice Airports every day of the week imo :thumbup:


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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 9:08 am 
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Are there still sections of the M6 with roadworks and 40mph died limits?


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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 9:16 am 
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Nolanator wrote:
Are there still sections of the M6 with roadworks and 40mph died limits?

Shit loads of speed restrictions between Manchester and Brum.


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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 9:58 am 
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Jim Lahey wrote:
Patrons of this fine establishment,

How long would it take me driving from Birkenhead to Dover on a Thursday?
Off the boat at Birkenhead at 7am and need to book a ferry to Calais in the afternoon. Thinking of going for the 2.45pm one given I'll have a 3 y/o and a 1 y/o with me so there'll probably be a couple of piss stops.

Cheers


I’d go for the ferry after this just to be sure, drives with kids dontake up a lot of time - have you got in car dvd so they can watch peppa pig?
I would stay off the motorway between 8-9 anyways to avoid rush hour , and try to get around London in one hit as the sooner you away from m25 the better


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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 10:09 am 
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Book a P&O flexi ticket. Will give you +/- 4 hours on your arrival time at Diver, subject to free space


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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 10:27 am 
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FWIW, personally I'd go M1, or even A14/M11 and use Dartford.
Biggest unknown will be the M6 to Brum in the rush hour. I'd give at least 2.5 /3 hours to get to the other side of Birmingham from your starting point.


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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 11:41 am 
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I use to travel regularly from Stoke to Dover, the fastest route I found was as follows:

M6
M6 toll
M42
M6
M1
M25 {Dartford) Don't forget to pay your crossing online before, as you will only have 24 hours to do it afterwards or face a fine
M2
A2
From Liverpool, take the M62 to join the M6


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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 12:02 pm 
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c69 wrote:
Nolanator wrote:
Are there still sections of the M6 with roadworks and 40mph died limits?

Shit loads of speed restrictions between Manchester and Brum.

Yeah, that was how it was last year when I drove down. Painfully slow, but somehow we didn't hit any major traffic. Didn't even need to go M6 toll. Was a Saturday afternoon, though.

Jim, prepare to be sodomised when paying the toll. Was £10 for a van.


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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 12:03 pm 
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If using AA planner just be aware it can underestimate the journey time.


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PostPosted: Mon May 27, 2019 4:14 pm 
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Would driving down to Dublin port and getting the boat to cherbourg be an option? Avoid Britain altogether.


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PostPosted: Mon May 27, 2019 4:21 pm 
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Take the M40 then the A404 at Handy Cross and cut through to the M4. Cuts out the Heathrow stretch which is often slow. Dartford often a problem so go the south route around the M25.


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PostPosted: Mon May 27, 2019 4:25 pm 
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Dartford doesn't tend to be too bad going south (rush hour aside), unlike going north where they seem to have utterly arsed it up - it's worse than when they had booths.


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PostPosted: Mon May 27, 2019 4:38 pm 
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Dartford will be fine that time of day. Much better bet than chancing that the m40 then the m4 then the m25 south will be clear.
Fly and rent a car when you get there rather than trust uk motorway network.....


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PostPosted: Mon May 27, 2019 4:38 pm 
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Bradwall Boy wrote:
Take the M40 then the A404 at Handy Cross and cut through to the M4. Cuts out the Heathrow stretch which is often slow. Dartford often a problem so go the south route around the M25.


Had to look up Handy Cross - it’s High Wycombe. First time I’ve heard it referred to as Handy Cross. But yeah, would agree. Nice run up to Maidenhead and the M4, used to do that everyday.


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PostPosted: Mon May 27, 2019 4:41 pm 
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You’re brave doing this with kids.

Definitely do the M40 roll. M25, just make your mind up when you see the traffic alerts.

If you haven’t booked yet, just do Eurotunnel. Trains all the time and they just fire people onto the next one. Unlikely to be any queues on a Thursday.

Good set of noise cancelling headphones would be an investment.


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PostPosted: Mon May 27, 2019 4:44 pm 
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Should’ve said, Stena do ‘Landbridge’ deals via Eurotunnel and Eurotunnel themselves used to have good Clubcard deals as well.


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PostPosted: Mon May 27, 2019 4:45 pm 
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Plane
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PostPosted: Mon May 27, 2019 5:09 pm 
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You're biggest problem is not the traffic, but just making sure you keep your wheels when getting off at Birkenhead.


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PostPosted: Mon May 27, 2019 6:08 pm 
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Think you’re being a bit optimistic maybe? I’d stop at clermont max if going from Cambridge and factoring in a half hour eurotunnel crossing.


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