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obelixtim wrote:China has over a billion people. The views of a million are insignificant.

happyhooker wrote:

obelixtim wrote:China has over a billion people. The views of a million are insignificant.

Yea, 14% of the population of the area that still provides a)their main access to the international banking market and b) 3%of their GDP, despite only being .005% of their population is insignificant.

obelixtim wrote:

happyhooker wrote:

obelixtim wrote:China has over a billion people. The views of a million are insignificant.

Yea, 14% of the population of the area that still provides a)their main access to the international banking market and b) 3%of their GDP, despite only being .005% of their population is insignificant.

Do you seriously think the Chinese gummint give a rats arse about the views of the people of HK? They would flood the place with their own puppets in a heartbeat and replace any dissenters. It will happen, but the Gummint have time on their side.

wamberal99 wrote:"One country two systems" only applies until 2047. The rich own Hong Kong now, just as they always have.

Hong Kong wrote:this will get very messy...and if I hear one more claim that the protestors are "peaceful", I swear I'll shoot the fuckers myslef. Numerous videos are circulating with protestors preparing bricks, pipes, spears and even petrol bombs in order to 'peacefully express their discontent over the proposed change to the law.

Whilst I sympathise with their concerns, their means are not peaceful

Harden up!!! wrote:

Hong Kong wrote:this will get very messy...and if I hear one more claim that the protestors are "peaceful", I swear I'll shoot the fuckers myslef. Numerous videos are circulating with protestors preparing bricks, pipes, spears and even petrol bombs in order to 'peacefully express their discontent over the proposed change to the law.

Whilst I sympathise with their concerns, their means are not peaceful

Are they insane? This is the peoples republic of china they are messing with, or are they embolden by the fact that its hongkong and most of world media will be keeping an eye on things, unlike in contrast say in the depths of the PRC, tibet or the western parts of the country with the ethnic and religious groups there?

Hong Kong wrote:

Harden up!!! wrote:

Hong Kong wrote:this will get very messy...and if I hear one more claim that the protestors are "peaceful", I swear I'll shoot the fuckers myslef. Numerous videos are circulating with protestors preparing bricks, pipes, spears and even petrol bombs in order to 'peacefully express their discontent over the proposed change to the law.

Whilst I sympathise with their concerns, their means are not peaceful

Are they insane? This is the peoples republic of china they are messing with, or are they embolden by the fact that its hongkong and most of world media will be keeping an eye on things, unlike in contrast say in the depths of the PRC, tibet or the western parts of the country with the ethnic and religious groups there?

quite possibly

Harden up!!! wrote:

Hong Kong wrote:

Harden up!!! wrote:

Hong Kong wrote:this will get very messy...and if I hear one more claim that the protestors are "peaceful", I swear I'll shoot the fuckers myslef. Numerous videos are circulating with protestors preparing bricks, pipes, spears and even petrol bombs in order to 'peacefully express their discontent over the proposed change to the law.

Whilst I sympathise with their concerns, their means are not peaceful

Are they insane? This is the peoples republic of china they are messing with, or are they embolden by the fact that its hongkong and most of world media will be keeping an eye on things, unlike in contrast say in the depths of the PRC, tibet or the western parts of the country with the ethnic and religious groups there?

quite possibly

Honestly hope sanity prevails and teh fallout is not too bad, keep safe.

wamberal99 wrote:I hope the videos of violence are not being faked. Easy to do these days. Has there been any violence in the streets of Hong Kong since the Star Ferry riots?


It really sounds totally out of character as a generalisation. Is there the possibility that there is some skullduggery going on, by forces sympathetic to the Party?

Kiwias wrote:

Harden up!!! wrote:

Hong Kong wrote:

Harden up!!! wrote:

Hong Kong wrote:this will get very messy...and if I hear one more claim that the protestors are "peaceful", I swear I'll shoot the fuckers myslef. Numerous videos are circulating with protestors preparing bricks, pipes, spears and even petrol bombs in order to 'peacefully express their discontent over the proposed change to the law.

Whilst I sympathise with their concerns, their means are not peaceful

Are they insane? This is the peoples republic of china they are messing with, or are they embolden by the fact that its hongkong and most of world media will be keeping an eye on things, unlike in contrast say in the depths of the PRC, tibet or the western parts of the country with the ethnic and religious groups there?

quite possibly

Honestly hope sanity prevails and teh fallout is not too bad, keep safe.

HK will be one of those swinging the batons, he'll be fine.

RuggaBugga wrote:Tear gassing the blockade.

CNN reporter right on the frontline. Now deemed a riot, Tear gas and pepper spray being used.

Edit: meh seems they cleared them already.

Sun Tzu wrote:

RuggaBugga wrote:Tear gassing the blockade.

CNN reporter right on the frontline. Now deemed a riot, Tear gas and pepper spray being used.

Edit: meh seems they cleared them already.

Somebody has already done a better job of explaining the situation here.

RuggaBugga wrote:

Sun Tzu wrote:

RuggaBugga wrote:Tear gassing the blockade.

CNN reporter right on the frontline. Now deemed a riot, Tear gas and pepper spray being used.

Edit: meh seems they cleared them already.

Somebody has already done a better job of explaining the situation here.

"Somebody"

What a cock.

Hong Kong wrote:

wamberal99 wrote:I hope the videos of violence are not being faked. Easy to do these days. Has there been any violence in the streets of Hong Kong since the Star Ferry riots?


It really sounds totally out of character as a generalisation. Is there the possibility that there is some skullduggery going on, by forces sympathetic to the Party?

they are not fake, nor were the 15 stitches suffered by an officer mate on Sunday night.

Has there been violence since the Star ferry riots? Have a think back to the umbrella movement from a couple of years back

bimboman wrote:Have China broken the agreements with Britain on HK.?

Seneca of the Night wrote:

village wrote:Living and working in HK for the past 5 years (and I just commuted without any disruption through Admiralty where the protest is based) and I do think the BBC / Western press are rather over egging the level of protest. Yes, there was a big (but no way 1m people) peaceful march on Sunday (they've had them in London too recently, no?). I worked near Threadneedle Street during the UK student protests of 2010 and I would say it's comparable in numbers - significant but also pretty easy for the government to ignore. Outside of a few city blocks in HK you would not know anything is taking place.

As for the extradition law, it hardly matters. If China wants you, they take you from here. Billionaires from their 4 Seasons suites and booksellers from Mong Kok. They just disappear without the legal process. The two systems is little more than window dressing when it comes to the crunch. This was a British colony until 1997 and it has been a Chinese colony ever since. There are a hardcore of idealist HK students who hold an unrealistic dream of independence but a huge proportion of the city are pro-Beijing and the rest are just scraping a living.

Of course Hong Kongers are late risers even when they have jobs and students are worse still, so there is every chance my commute was undisturbed because the lazy sods were still in bed. Will go for a walkabout at lunch and see if things have grown.

I didn't know that. What happened to the famed Asian work ethic. I remember staying at a friend's place in Midlevels once and the neighbours seemed to jibber jabber all night.

Seneca of the Night wrote:

village wrote:Living and working in HK for the past 5 years (and I just commuted without any disruption through Admiralty where the protest is based) and I do think the BBC / Western press are rather over egging the level of protest. Yes, there was a big (but no way 1m people) peaceful march on Sunday (they've had them in London too recently, no?). I worked near Threadneedle Street during the UK student protests of 2010 and I would say it's comparable in numbers - significant but also pretty easy for the government to ignore. Outside of a few city blocks in HK you would not know anything is taking place.

As for the extradition law, it hardly matters. If China wants you, they take you from here. Billionaires from their 4 Seasons suites and booksellers from Mong Kok. They just disappear without the legal process. The two systems is little more than window dressing when it comes to the crunch. This was a British colony until 1997 and it has been a Chinese colony ever since. There are a hardcore of idealist HK students who hold an unrealistic dream of independence but a huge proportion of the city are pro-Beijing and the rest are just scraping a living.

Of course Hong Kongers are late risers even when they have jobs and students are worse still, so there is every chance my commute was undisturbed because the lazy sods were still in bed. Will go for a walkabout at lunch and see if things have grown.

I didn't know that. What happened to the famed Asian work ethic. I remember staying at a friend's place in Midlevels once and the neighbours seemed to jibber jabber all night.

Deco2 wrote:

bimboman wrote:Have China broken the agreements with Britain on HK.?

Can they not just walk away unilaterally? Like you claim is true of all international agreements on the brexit tread.

Sensible Stephen wrote:

Deco2 wrote:

bimboman wrote:Have China broken the agreements with Britain on HK.?

Can they not just walk away unilaterally? Like you claim is true of all international agreements on the brexit tread.

China would never let them. But regardless, its way more complicated than that. Hong Kong itself belonged to the UK, but the New Territories were a 99 year lease. They never belonged to the UK, they were just rented. Hong Kong expanded so much that it became impossible to separate properly from the new territories. Hence the call just to hand the lot back in 1997.

Auckman wrote:Stay safe HK.

Sun Tzu wrote:Excellent vlog by Laowhy86

eldanielfire wrote:

Auckman wrote:Stay safe HK.

This! He's a top bloke and a real rugby man who gives a lot to the game.

Hong Kong wrote:

Sun Tzu wrote:Excellent vlog by Laowhy86

Apart from the factual errors

eldanielfire wrote:

Auckman wrote:Stay safe HK.

This! He's a top bloke and a real rugby man who gives a lot to the game.

Blushes

Sun Tzu wrote:

Hong Kong wrote:

Sun Tzu wrote:Excellent vlog by Laowhy86

Apart from the factual errors

eldanielfire wrote:

Auckman wrote:Stay safe HK.

This! He's a top bloke and a real rugby man who gives a lot to the game.

Blushes

Since when did the facts matter? They certainly don't matter to the CCP.