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...remain as the only Northern Hemisphere coach to win a Rugby World Cup?

c69 wrote:

BillW wrote:...remain as the only Northern Hemisphere coach to win a Rugby World Cup?

At least 4 more years

Sad but true.

Felix Jones has a chance

Woodward doesn't really have a clue how he won it without resorting to his management cliche 101 book. So who knows.

#TCUP

Christ, I hope he stops being the only one with thst accolade asap. They might stop offering him pundit gigs then as it's pretty much the only thing to recommend him.

Woodward came around at time where Australia was the best the Southern Hemisphere had to offer.

Think about it.

BillW wrote:...remain as the only Northern Hemisphere coach to win a Rugby World Cup?

Could you amend the thread title, please?

Board convention dictates he be referred to as 'Lord Bald'.

Thanks.

Couch wrote:Woodward came around at time where Australia was the best the Southern Hemisphere had to offer.

Think about it.

That implies that it was harder to win the RWC in 2003, not easier.

Couch wrote:Woodward came around at time where Australia was the best the Southern Hemisphere had to offer.

Think about it.

... and were beating the Lions and rolling over the home nations like warm up matches?

You're right. He did a hell of a job making England competitive with by far the world's best team at the time. Although I guess you can't coach Jonny Wilkinson's right boot which is what really stole back-to-back World Cup wins from Australia right at the last second.

Clive Woodward doesn't actually count as a world cup winning coach tbf.

Martin Johnson was running the thing.

You know back in 2003...........

Woodward was kind of team mascot

Mog The Almighty wrote:

Couch wrote:Woodward came around at time where Australia was the best the Southern Hemisphere had to offer.

Think about it.

... and were beating the Lions and rolling over the home nations like warm up matches?

You're right. He did a hell of a job making England competitive with by far the world's best team at the time. Although I guess you can't coach Jonny Wilkinson's right boot which is what really stole back-to-back World Cup wins from Australia right at the last second.

Australia lost to England away in 2002 and at home twice in 2003, lost the Bledisloe and shipped 50 points at home too. They weren't the team they were in 1998-2001 .

Dark wrote:Clive Woodward doesn't actually count as a world cup winning coach tbf.

Martin Johnson was running the thing.

Hmmmm yes as we saw when Johnson actually became the coach

JM2K6 wrote:

Dark wrote:Clive Woodward doesn't actually count as a world cup winning coach tbf.

Martin Johnson was running the thing.

Hmmmm yes as we saw when Johnson actually became the coach

It is not unusual for the greatest coaches to not be able to handle the media pressure when officially named coach.

Dark wrote:Clive Woodward doesn't actually count as a world cup winning coach tbf.

Martin Johnson was running the thing.

The same Martin Johnson who credits Woodward's progressive planning and ideas for ensuring England won the World Cup?

I personally think Woodward was brilliant at the time, knew his rugby then and was ahead of the game. He however had the good fortune of a Captain and some senior players who had the authority to challenge him when needed.

Harvey2.0 wrote:

Mog The Almighty wrote:

Couch wrote:Woodward came around at time where Australia was the best the Southern Hemisphere had to offer.

Think about it.

... and were beating the Lions and rolling over the home nations like warm up matches?

You're right. He did a hell of a job making England competitive with by far the world's best team at the time. Although I guess you can't coach Jonny Wilkinson's right boot which is what really stole back-to-back World Cup wins from Australia right at the last second.

Australia lost to England away in 2002 and at home twice in 2003, lost the Bledisloe and shipped 50 points at home too. They weren't the team they were in 1998-2001 .

Woodward became coach of England in 1997 ... in which team he also secured England's first ever victory over Australia on home soil.