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PostPosted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 1:28 pm 
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I think there's an argument that on a relative scale, if she actually spends 10 months in jail, it makes a mockery of all the violent repeat offenders who apparently deserve a 150th chance to redeem themselves and get a slap on the wrist.

But defending her actions outright and saying they were mild?


That's a problem for those sentences not this one.

Two wrongs and all that


Agreed.


Not defending her actions at all. Definitely deserves punishment. But a ten month custodial sentence seems unbalanced when comparing to other sentences.


Maybe there's more space in female prisons, allowing for the handing out of proper sentences compared to our bustling male facilities, which you'd want to be a fairly elite level scumbag to get into?


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Mustapha wrote:
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I think there's an argument that on a relative scale, if she actually spends 10 months in jail, it makes a mockery of all the violent repeat offenders who apparently deserve a 150th chance to redeem themselves and get a slap on the wrist.

But defending her actions outright and saying they were mild?


That's a problem for those sentences not this one.

Two wrongs and all that


Agreed.


Not defending her actions at all. Definitely deserves punishment. But a ten month custodial sentence seems unbalanced when comparing to other sentences.



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I can read good, honest. Just didn't quote the correct post.


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Fair enough :lol:


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He is laughing at you now. Tell him to fudge off


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Well, it seems she got off lightly compared to this chap https://www.rte.ie/news/courts/2018/012 ... are-fraud/


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Well, it seems she got off lightly compared to this chap https://www.rte.ie/news/courts/2018/012 ... are-fraud/



I was going to say that with regards to the woman a major factor would have been the second identity for claiming, something she shares with this fella. I would imagine in other cases people claim that they didn't realise the claims were fraudulent, they were just applying for everything they could and are a bit think and made mistakes in the declaration. Difficult to claim that with a long term systematic fraud requiring dual identities.

And comparing this to violent scum bag crimes is tempting but considering this is essentially their 'wages' it bares comparison to people who steal money from work. I'm not sure about now, but 20 years ago you were almost guaranteed a jail term if you were convicted for such a breech of trust.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 1:10 pm 
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easy money

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/marketing-executive-awarded-16k-after-trinity-ball-revellers-step-into-middle-of-dart-ticket-row-36554981.html


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That's all very odd. The guy didn't have a ticket and then abused the ticket inspector. Why did she need to get involved? There must have been some unsavoury comments exchanged between the men that she took exception to.


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That's all very odd. The guy didn't have a ticket and then abused the ticket inspector. Why did she need to get involved? There must have been some unsavoury comments exchanged between the men that she took exception to.

maybe she's just a lippy, nosey fúcker. she is a bird afterall


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Any salacious rumours about the Irene White murder case? Married father of 4 allegedly paid to have her murdered?


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https://www.rte.ie/news/courts/2018/020 ... -lipstick/

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A six-year-old boy, who developed an allergic reaction to his mother's lipstick, has been awarded €12,000 damages in the Circuit Civil Court.

Barrister Maria Watson, counsel for the child, who is not being identified to avoid peer bullying, told Circuit Court President, Mr Justice Raymond Groarke, that when he was only three his mother painted the first initial of his name on his forehead with her lipstick.

Ms Watson said the letter remained on the child's forehead for about two hours before his mother attempted to wash it off and was unable to do so. She found it had caused a mark and injury to her son's skin.

Counsel, who appeared with Moloney Solicitors for the boy, said that in March 2015 the child had been playing with his mother's make-up bag when she had joined the play and put the mark on his forehead.

Ms Watson said the mother had found it very difficult to remove the No 507 "Relentless Rouge" long-lasting lipstick and had cleaned the area with Silcocks base cleaner. Over the following 48 hours the area had become red, swollen and blistered.

She told the court that the blistering rash persisted for about a week but although this had settled it had left a well-defined area of discolouration corresponding with the location of the lipstick.

Ms Watson said the child's mother had brought her son to a consultant dermatologist at the Blackrock Clinic who had advised her that the area of erythema on the forehead would gradually improve. A final review in July 2017 revealed no sign of the mark.

The boy, through his mother, had sued L'Oreal (UK) Limited, which has its registered office at Hammersmith Road, London, and which entered a full defence to the claim.

L'Oreal stated the product had not been defective, was of merchantable quality and was fit for intended purpose, which was for use as a lipstick.

Ms Watson told the court that L'Oreal had claimed it was not negligent or guilty of breach of duty and the boy's mother had not used the product for the purpose for which it had been sold or intended. In its defence L'Oreal had claimed the injuries had been caused by an acute allergic reaction, which was not reasonably foreseeable from the defendant's perspective.

She said a settlement offer of €12,000 had been offered to the boy and she was recommending that the court approve and rule it as appropriate.

Judge Groarke, approving the settlement, said a medical report had related the lipstick to the boy's injury.


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https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/c ... 69090.html

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A garda sergeant, who had to move into the spare room at home because of his snoring, has been awarded damages in the High Court for a head-butt injury to his nose.

Sergeant Noel McSweeney, who suffered the injury while on duty, told a garda compensation hearing that his snoring affected his wife more than it did him and he had to move into the spare room “on a couple of occasions.”

Barrister Ellen Gleeson told Mr Justice Michael Twomey that Sergeant McSweeney, of Enniscorthy Garda Station had been engaged in a search for a missing woman in May 2012 when the incident occurred.

McSweeney told Ms Gleeson, who appeared for him with solicitor Ernest Cantillon, that the woman had been found extremely intoxicated and aggressive in a car in which there had been drugs and she had been taken into custody.

“She jumped back and threw her head backwards, hitting me in the nose and upper teeth,” Sergeant McSweeney said.

He said he had fractures to four of his upper front teeth and the line of his nose had been knocked slightly off. He suffered a deviated septum which had resulted in a restriction of the airflow through his nose.

“The appearance of my nose wasn’t upsetting to me so I decided not to have surgery correcting it. Perhaps if I was a model it would be different,” he said.

Sergeant McSweeney said he had been reviewed six months after the incident and had told his doctor about his snoring problem. “I wasn’t aware of it but I did have to sleep in the spare room on a couple of occasions,” he said.

McSweeney told William Maher, counsel for the State, that he had only slight discomfort with the airflow in his nose. He had decided against surgery after having been told that surgery would be required only for cosmetic reasons.

Judge Twomey, who has been appointed to deal with the Garda Compensation List and had been hearing such cases for the first time Monday, said the Book of Quantum suggested damages of €7,500 for minor dental damage and he would add to this €18,000 compensation for the injury to Sergeant McSweeney’s nose.

He awarded total damages of €25,500 and costs against the State.


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The kid isn't even scarred any more. :uhoh:


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HighKingLeinster wrote:
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That's all very odd. The guy didn't have a ticket and then abused the ticket inspector. Why did she need to get involved? There must have been some unsavoury comments exchanged between the men that she took exception to.

maybe she's just a lippy, nosey fúcker. she is a bird afterall


Don’t know all the details but it sounds like he did detain her unlawfully because she took his picture.


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A SOLICITOR CAUGHT with cocaine in his wallet during a professional visit to Mountjoy Prison has been given a chance to avoid a criminal conviction after a judge accepted claims he did not know he was carrying the drug.

Dublin based lawyer, Aonghus McCarthy, 32, who maintained someone else put the drugs in his wallet at a party was told he would get a strike out if he donated €1,250 to a drug addiction treatment centre.


This seems entirely legit.

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Tbh I'm happy they're not banging people up for drug possession, but going into a prison with one. Surely for pure stupidity he should spend a couple of days in there.

EDIT: I also found this kind of funny from an older article. Imagine seeing your solicitor up in court before you :lol: :

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Mr McCarthy was excused from having to attend the case next week. Before his own hearing he had been acting for his clients in other court cases in the CCJ; afterwards he went back to work representing defendants in the district court.


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A SOLICITOR CAUGHT with cocaine in his wallet during a professional visit to Mountjoy Prison has been given a chance to avoid a criminal conviction after a judge accepted claims he did not know he was carrying the drug.

Dublin based lawyer, Aonghus McCarthy, 32, who maintained someone else put the drugs in his wallet at a party was told he would get a strike out if he donated €1,250 to a drug addiction treatment centre.


This seems entirely legit.

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Session back in mine boyz


Tbh I'm happy they're not banging people up for drug possession, but going into a prison with one. Surely for pure stupidity he should spend a couple of days in there.

EDIT: I also found this kind of funny from an older article. Imagine seeing your solicitor up in court before you :lol: :

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Mr McCarthy was excused from having to attend the case next week. Before his own hearing he had been acting for his clients in other court cases in the CCJ; afterwards he went back to work representing defendants in the district court.


https://youtube.com/watch?v=Ore7u6kzFTQ


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Flametop wrote:
Bullettyme wrote:
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A SOLICITOR CAUGHT with cocaine in his wallet during a professional visit to Mountjoy Prison has been given a chance to avoid a criminal conviction after a judge accepted claims he did not know he was carrying the drug.

Dublin based lawyer, Aonghus McCarthy, 32, who maintained someone else put the drugs in his wallet at a party was told he would get a strike out if he donated €1,250 to a drug addiction treatment centre.


This seems entirely legit.

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Session back in mine boyz


Tbh I'm happy they're not banging people up for drug possession, but going into a prison with one. Surely for pure stupidity he should spend a couple of days in there.

EDIT: I also found this kind of funny from an older article. Imagine seeing your solicitor up in court before you :lol: :

Quote:
Mr McCarthy was excused from having to attend the case next week. Before his own hearing he had been acting for his clients in other court cases in the CCJ; afterwards he went back to work representing defendants in the district court.


https://youtube.com/watch?v=Ore7u6kzFTQ


More like Henry Winkler as the lawyer in arrested development.

"If you'll excuse me I have a drink driving case coming up now"
"Good luck I hope you get a good result"
"I think I will, I have a really good lawyer"

Something like that anyway


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Flametop wrote:
Bullettyme wrote:
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A SOLICITOR CAUGHT with cocaine in his wallet during a professional visit to Mountjoy Prison has been given a chance to avoid a criminal conviction after a judge accepted claims he did not know he was carrying the drug.

Dublin based lawyer, Aonghus McCarthy, 32, who maintained someone else put the drugs in his wallet at a party was told he would get a strike out if he donated €1,250 to a drug addiction treatment centre.


This seems entirely legit.

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Session back in mine boyz


Tbh I'm happy they're not banging people up for drug possession, but going into a prison with one. Surely for pure stupidity he should spend a couple of days in there.

EDIT: I also found this kind of funny from an older article. Imagine seeing your solicitor up in court before you :lol: :

Quote:
Mr McCarthy was excused from having to attend the case next week. Before his own hearing he had been acting for his clients in other court cases in the CCJ; afterwards he went back to work representing defendants in the district court.


https://youtube.com/watch?v=Ore7u6kzFTQ


More like Henry Winkler as the lawyer in arrested development.

"If you'll excuse me I have a drink driving case coming up now"
"Good luck I hope you get a good result"
"I think I will, I have a really good lawyer"

Something like that anyway


:lol:

Barry: "Sorry, sorry, sorry I'm so late. I had another hearing. Here's the good news: I think I'm going to get off. I have a good lawyer."


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Bullettyme wrote:
MrJonno wrote:
Flametop wrote:
Bullettyme wrote:
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A SOLICITOR CAUGHT with cocaine in his wallet during a professional visit to Mountjoy Prison has been given a chance to avoid a criminal conviction after a judge accepted claims he did not know he was carrying the drug.

Dublin based lawyer, Aonghus McCarthy, 32, who maintained someone else put the drugs in his wallet at a party was told he would get a strike out if he donated €1,250 to a drug addiction treatment centre.


This seems entirely legit.

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Quote:
Session back in mine boyz


Tbh I'm happy they're not banging people up for drug possession, but going into a prison with one. Surely for pure stupidity he should spend a couple of days in there.

EDIT: I also found this kind of funny from an older article. Imagine seeing your solicitor up in court before you :lol: :

Quote:
Mr McCarthy was excused from having to attend the case next week. Before his own hearing he had been acting for his clients in other court cases in the CCJ; afterwards he went back to work representing defendants in the district court.


https://youtube.com/watch?v=Ore7u6kzFTQ


More like Henry Winkler as the lawyer in arrested development.

"If you'll excuse me I have a drink driving case coming up now"
"Good luck I hope you get a good result"
"I think I will, I have a really good lawyer"

Something like that anyway


:lol:

Barry: "Sorry, sorry, sorry I'm so late. I had another hearing. Here's the good news: I think I'm going to get off. I have a good lawyer."


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This has everything to do with the law looking after its own, as he'd have been kicked out of the Law Society with a criminal conviction.

The question that has to be asked is would, say, an inmates relative, found bringing cocaine into prison be treated so leniently ?

My guess is that they would not.

So much for blind justice.


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This has everything to do with the law looking after its own, as he'd have been kicked out of the Law Society with a criminal conviction.

The question that has to be asked is would, say, an inmates relative, found bringing cocaine into prison be treated so leniently ?

My guess is that they would not.

So much for blind justice.


Yeah agree.

Someone slipped the cocaine in there whilst I left my wallet down as I cut a fat line of cocaine.


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That lad really doesn’t look like he went to Univercity and the only bar exam he’s ever sat through is doing cans of Dutch Gold in the jacks of Coppers.


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Flametop wrote:
That lad really doesn’t look like he went to Univercity and the only bar exam he’s ever sat through is doing cans of Dutch Gold in the jacks of Coppers.


Looking at that photo makes me think a real lawyer is lying in a pool of blood in the nearest jax wondering why someone stole his files


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MrJonno wrote:
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That lad really doesn’t look like he went to Univercity and the only bar exam he’s ever sat through is doing cans of Dutch Gold in the jacks of Coppers.


Looking at that photo makes me think a real lawyer is lying in a pool of blood in the nearest jax wondering why someone stole his files


And cocaine.


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You think somebody would normally be getting a conviction for that little drugs...?


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You think somebody would normally be getting a conviction for that little drugs...?


Are you buying or selling?


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You think somebody would normally be getting a conviction for that little drugs...?


Nah not really, and I said as much earlier, but bringing into a prison?


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You think somebody would normally be getting a conviction for that little drugs...?

Firstly it's cocaine, not a little bit of weed; and secondly, and most importantly, he was caught trying to smuggle it into a gaol.

This is not normal, and as I said, if it was a relative of an inmate, they would get a criminal conviction.


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Apparently he's a traveller.


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Not that I'm aware of. He's regarded as a competent criminal defence solicitor, and, the worst case scenario here was that the drugs were his own. The amount in question was clearly not intended for supply.

Even if you accept the drugs were his, it's still not really meritorious of a criminal sanction.

Would you want your kid getting a conviction if caught with a 20 bag of weed? Or a bump of coke?


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Not that I'm aware of. He's regarded as a competent criminal defence solicitor, and, the worst case scenario here was that the drugs were his own. The amount in question was clearly not intended for supply.

Even if you accept the drugs were his, it's still not really meritorious of a criminal sanction.

Would you want your kid getting a conviction if caught with a 20 bag of weed? Or a bump of coke?



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My kid isn't an Officer of the Court found guilty of attempting to smuggle cocaine into a gaol.

Which is worse : an Officer of the Court who smuggles cocaine into a prison, or an Officer of the Court who gets off his tits on cocaine so regularly that he carries the drug around in his wallet ?


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Not that I'm aware of. He's regarded as a competent criminal defence solicitor, and, the worst case scenario here was that the drugs were his own. The amount in question was clearly not intended for supply.

Even if you accept the drugs were his, it's still not really meritorious of a criminal sanction.

Would you want your kid getting a conviction if caught with a 20 bag of weed? Or a bump of coke?



Yeah

Sadly the good old days are long gone.

My criminal lawyer mates noted he drew the nicest judge possible and got lucky as a result.

Cam, I don't think anybody really believes he was smuggling drugs into prison. Certainly the DPP didn't, as they dropped those charges.


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Anyone listen to the second captains episode on George Gibney?

Sickening that he was able to get away.


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The Gary O’Toole interview? It was brilliant radio


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anonymous_joe wrote:
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Not that I'm aware of. He's regarded as a competent criminal defence solicitor, and, the worst case scenario here was that the drugs were his own. The amount in question was clearly not intended for supply.

Even if you accept the drugs were his, it's still not really meritorious of a criminal sanction.

Would you want your kid getting a conviction if caught with a 20 bag of weed? Or a bump of coke?



Yeah

Sadly the good old days are long gone.

My criminal lawyer mates noted he drew the nicest judge possible and got lucky as a result.

Cam, I don't think anybody really believes he was smuggling drugs into prison. Certainly the DPP didn't, as they dropped those charges.


If he was trying to smuggle drugs into prison in his wallet then he deserves a punishment for stupidity.

You'd imagine that he just forgot that he left some in there after the weekend.


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No, think he was on Newstalk.


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It actually would be a form of torture just to give some poor chap a quarter bag of charles in prison and then piss off until your next visit.


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Fast food delivery driver sues south Dublin pub for defamation after barman said €10 note was fake, High Court hears
https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/c ... 87091.html

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I get the inkling that he had a good feed on the take ways he delivered.


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