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Tribunal have been pretty smart with Warner - find him guilty but put him on 3 points, 1 away from a ban - the points stay with him for 24 months - so he'll have to rein in his behaviour for a long time.

And you can be sure that his opponents will make hay while he's got his hands tied - there'll be plenty of baiting going on, trying to get another little meltdown out of him. No doubt the SA crowds might have a word or two for him as well.

De Kock has gone down the Not Guilty route - expect plenty of Aussie outrage if he's successful.

I don't think South African crowds are quite as aggressive as Australian crowds are.

And I don't think the Saffer players are quite as effective verbally, either, so I suspect the ICC action does little more than let Warner off the hook. All he needs to do is make sure that any verbals are out of range of the stump mikes for a year or two and he'll be all right. I doubt either of these umpires will take any action that might result in a ban for him.


What crowds?

Good point.

However, Newlands, Wanderers and St Georges will be far better supported.


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Tribunal have been pretty smart with Warner - find him guilty but put him on 3 points, 1 away from a ban - the points stay with him for 24 months - so he'll have to rein in his behaviour for a long time.

And you can be sure that his opponents will make hay while he's got his hands tied - there'll be plenty of baiting going on, trying to get another little meltdown out of him. No doubt the SA crowds might have a word or two for him as well.

De Kock has gone down the Not Guilty route - expect plenty of Aussie outrage if he's successful.

I don't think South African crowds are quite as aggressive as Australian crowds are.

And I don't think the Saffer players are quite as effective verbally, either, so I suspect the ICC action does little more than let Warner off the hook. All he needs to do is make sure that any verbals are out of range of the stump mikes for a year or two and he'll be all right. I doubt either of these umpires will take any action that might result in a ban for him.


Very hard to sledge the batsman out of range of the stump mikes.

And, it doesn't seem to require much to wind him up.

I see South Africa have three players facing bans: Rabada, du Plessis and de Kock, while Australia only have Warner, so your suggestion that the ICC have allowed open season on Warner doesn't really scan.

I'm a little surprised that Ian Chappel has waded in as he hasn't shown any inclination to be over fond of South Africans in the past.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/22674045/smith-lehmann-culpable-warner-episode-chappell


Even ex-players from Aus are blaming Smith, Warner and Lehman :lol:

But no, some posters still think De Kock's to blame.


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Pity the people do not turn up like they do in Oz

Such great viewing when the crowd is into it


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Here's what kicked it off.

https://youtu.be/Xqy4SZ6BIJA

So much for "leaving it out on the field" What a plum :thumbdown:


Puts the lie to Smith's utterings on the subject - he needs to get control of his players.

I think he's quite happy.

I don't think he believes that his players were quite as saintly as he suggested they were, but as long as it puts the South Africans off balance and concentrating on the wrong things, then I'm pretty sure he doesn't mind.


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Pity the people do not turn up like they do in Oz

Such great viewing when the crowd is into it

Hell if I could be on the dole and afford a test match ticket like the bogans in Aus I wouldn't miss a single day


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Good to see Sook declared guilty and awarded a naughty point. No place for verbally attacking women in the game.

Half the Saffa team must be on reprimand now. Pack of wild dogs, some would say.


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Good to see Sook declared guilty and awarded a naughty point. No place for verbally attacking women in the game.

Half the Saffa team must be on reprimand now. Pack of wild dogs, some would say.


What are the odds of Rabada striding down the pitch and punching a batsman this series.

Must be fairly tight.


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But no, some posters still think De Kock's to blame.


:lol:

No one has said De Kock was to blame.

Only that it takes two to tango.


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Just seen some footage on Foxsports.

Warner sledges de Kock on the boundary rope by calling him a “f$&king sook...” as the 2 S.A batsmen are taking off their helmets on the boundary rope after they’ve gone off for the tea break,FFS.



Yep just seen it. Ordinary.


Davey dumb dumb.


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Just seen some footage on Foxsports.

Warner sledges de Kock on the boundary rope by calling him a “f$&king sook...” as the 2 S.A batsmen are taking off their helmets on the boundary rope after they’ve gone off for the tea break,FFS.



Yep just seen it. Ordinary.


Davey dumb dumb.



What Davey and the Australians fail to realise is that Sook is actually Quentin's sisters name...


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Thomas wrote:
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But no, some posters still think De Kock's to blame.


:lol:

No one has said De Kock was to blame.

Only that it takes two to tango.



Ah... so you guys actually have a f**king full time Tango team touring the world, playing a bit of cricket on the side?

How artistic.


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That "two to tango" comment is a bit silly at times. You can resist all you want but there comes a time when the bully just needs to be throat punched.


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That "two to tango" comment is a bit silly at times. You can resist all you want but there comes a time when the bully just needs to be throat punched.


So you're saying Warner should have punched De Sook?

Interesting.


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Thomas wrote:
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That "two to tango" comment is a bit silly at times. You can resist all you want but there comes a time when the bully just needs to be throat punched.


So you're saying Warner should have punched De Sook?

Interesting.

Yes, Warner's the victim here, I forgot :lol:


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That "two to tango" comment is a bit silly at times. You can resist all you want but there comes a time when the bully just needs to be throat punched.


So you're saying Warner should have punched De Sook?

Interesting.

Yes, Warner's the victim here, I forgot :lol:


#pray4davey

It's going to be a spicy second test match. Yes indeed.


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That "two to tango" comment is a bit silly at times. You can resist all you want but there comes a time when the bully just needs to be throat punched.


So you're saying Warner should have punched De Sook?

Interesting.

Yes, Warner's the victim here, I forgot :lol:


Still over reaction by QDK

got called a "sook" (wtf is a sook?) and he had a go at the guys wife


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Poor innocent Davey, shame on you bully boy Sef Africans, FOR SHAME!

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Outright disgusting': Warner slams South African for wife sledge
http://www.watoday.com.au/sport/cricket ... 4z3cc.html


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That "two to tango" comment is a bit silly at times. You can resist all you want but there comes a time when the bully just needs to be throat punched.


So you're saying Warner should have punched De Sook?

Interesting.

Yes, Warner's the victim here, I forgot :lol:


Still over reaction by QDK

got called a "sook" (wtf is a sook?) and he had a go at the guys wife

argus - I have a feeling that QDK heard a lot more than "Fn sook" from Warner before having a go at his Mrs.


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Someone on Reddit recalled there being a bit of chat between the two earlier in the test while Warner was batting.

It had probably been simmering for a while.


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Poor innocent Davey, shame on you bully boy Sef Africans, FOR SHAME!

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Outright disgusting': Warner slams South African for wife sledge
http://www.watoday.com.au/sport/cricket ... 4z3cc.html


Saint Warner of Bogan. He has a point though.

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“I think you guys are well aware that I cop it left, right and centre, especially off the field from spectators. I am used to that and it doesn’t bother me," Warner said.

"But in the proximity of my personal space and behind me, a comment that was vile and disgusting and about my wife and just in general about a lady, was quite poor I felt. My emotional response, you saw, was just (to) something that I don’t believe should have been said. And as I said, I will always stick up for my family. And in that case, my teammates as well.

"I’ve always felt that when it comes to family or racism comments or anything like that, that’s just a no-go zone. I’ve been called everything under the sun out the field and that, quite frankly, doesn’t bother me"


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So demanding that Rohit Sharma speak English wasn't in the least bit racist? Okaay... :roll:


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Thomas wrote:
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Poor innocent Davey, shame on you bully boy Sef Africans, FOR SHAME!

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Outright disgusting': Warner slams South African for wife sledge
http://www.watoday.com.au/sport/cricket ... 4z3cc.html


Saint Warner of Bogan. He has a point though.

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“I think you guys are well aware that I cop it left, right and centre, especially off the field from spectators. I am used to that and it doesn’t bother me," Warner said.

"But in the proximity of my personal space and behind me, a comment that was vile and disgusting and about my wife and just in general about a lady, was quite poor I felt. My emotional response, you saw, was just (to) something that I don’t believe should have been said. And as I said, I will always stick up for my family. And in that case, my teammates as well.

"I’ve always felt that when it comes to family or racism comments or anything like that, that’s just a no-go zone. I’ve been called everything under the sun out the field and that, quite frankly, doesn’t bother me"



Oh, he's definitely got the moral high ground here :lol:

I read that article... I reckon he, and the team, could do with getting over themselves. It all comes across as needy. They're good players, who needs the sledging? It's just a shitty, childish carry on.


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So demanding that Rohit Sharma speak English wasn't in the least bit racist? Okaay... :roll:


He wanted to say "You keep talking back at me aggressively in a language I don't understand and I think we should have a discussion about it in a langue that I, and my team mates, can understand" but his lizard brain intervened.


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Thomas wrote:
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That "two to tango" comment is a bit silly at times. You can resist all you want but there comes a time when the bully just needs to be throat punched.


So you're saying Warner should have punched De Sook?

Interesting.

Yes, Warner's the victim here, I forgot :lol:


#pray4davey

It's going to be a spicy second test match. Yes indeed.


That's how you roll. Niggle is a consistent feature with the Wallabies too. Aussie battleeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrssssssss :thumbup:


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That's how you roll. Niggle is a consistent feature with the Wallabies too. Aussie battleeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrssssssss :thumbup:


Yeah, nah. It actually isn't. It's something kiwis have told themselves so often that they actually believe it. Kinda like the kiwis who actually think the Aussies sledged several retiring Black Caps players during the Cricket World Cup final.

A small handful of players have done it a few games and it doesn't work.

Niggle: See Dane Coles, who tried to fight pretty much everyone in the last match against the Wallabies.

Niggle: See Brodie Rettalick


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We had an entire 3 match series against the Welsh without one tussle. You guys can't go any match without the same, no matter the opposition. It's you Ocker DNA, and we love you for it.


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We had an entire 3 match series against the Welsh without one tussle. You guys can't go any match without the same, no matter the opposition. It's you Ocker DNA, and we love you for it.


But that's Wales.

It'd feel weird niggling them. Like picking on a kid with a disability.


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We had an entire 3 match series against the Welsh without one tussle. You guys can't go any match without the same, no matter the opposition. It's you Ocker DNA, and we love you for it.


But that's Wales.

It'd feel weird niggling them. Like picking on a kid with a disability.



DNA bro.

You can't fight it.


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Now now Thomas, the Handicapped deserve to be bullied just as equally as the able bodied


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Fellow Saffas (Chicken runners and Klingon's)...we all know that Warner is going to get a scorching double hundred in Port Elizabeth right :((


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Fellow Saffas (Chicken runners and Klingon's)...we all know that Warner is going to get a scorching double hundred in Port Elizabeth right :((


Nah, he isn't Kohli.


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Fellow Saffas (Chicken runners and Klingon's)...we all know that Warner is going to get a scorching double hundred in Port Elizabeth right :((


Nah, he isn't Kohli.



True dat.





















Put him down for a triple.


Not out...


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Just seen some footage on Foxsports.

Warner sledges de Kock on the boundary rope by calling him a “f$&king sook...” as the 2 S.A batsmen are taking off their helmets on the boundary rope after they’ve gone off for the tea break,FFS.



Yep just seen it. Ordinary.


Davey dumb dumb.



What Davey and the Australians fail to realise is that Sook is actually Quentin's sisters name...




Sook De Kock.







Anyone?















Anyone?
















Is this mic on?


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Fellow Saffas (Chicken runners and Klingon's)...we all know that Warner is going to get a scorching double hundred in Port Elizabeth right :((


Nah, he isn't Kohli.



True dat.





















Put him down for a triple.


Not out...


Nah just a double as his self entitlement would have swelled his head by then and he would barely be able to hold his head up...poor victimised soul.


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Titus O'Reily...

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Tribunal have been pretty smart with Warner - find him guilty but put him on 3 points, 1 away from a ban - the points stay with him for 24 months - so he'll have to rein in his behaviour for a long time.

And you can be sure that his opponents will make hay while he's got his hands tied - there'll be plenty of baiting going on, trying to get another little meltdown out of him. No doubt the SA crowds might have a word or two for him as well.

He should be targetting the 4th test here to get the Zimbabwe test off and clear the decks for filling his boots for the Bangladesh tests at home in July


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