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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 9:27 pm 
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Biffer29 wrote:
Right, cocks on the block. Predictions for the six

Melrose
A Dundee franchise including Dundee HSFP and the universities
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Currie with Heriot Watt
Glasgow Hawks
Watsonians with Edinburgh uni


Think that will be about right. And maybe a bid from heriots?


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It's disappointing but predictable that the borders probably won't get a combined side together. It's, what, 25km from Gala to Hawick with Melrose and Selkirk both broadly in between - that's 4 Prem 1 teams and a brilliant playing pool. I've already heard the old 'grumble grumble I won't watch Melrose play, grumble grumble I wouldn't play for them' shite from a number of family and friends. It really is sad.


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Big D wrote:
Biffer29 wrote:
Right, cocks on the block. Predictions for the six

Melrose
A Dundee franchise including Dundee HSFP and the universities
Ayr
Currie with Heriot Watt
Glasgow Hawks
Watsonians with Edinburgh uni


Think that will be about right. And maybe a bid from heriots?


Will Accies not have a shot? Would be fairly mad to build that new stadium and not be at the top table - unless plans afoot with Edinburgh Rugby.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2018 11:29 am 
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slick wrote:
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Biffer29 wrote:
Right, cocks on the block. Predictions for the six

Melrose
A Dundee franchise including Dundee HSFP and the universities
Ayr
Currie with Heriot Watt
Glasgow Hawks
Watsonians with Edinburgh uni


Think that will be about right. And maybe a bid from heriots?


Will Accies not have a shot? Would be fairly mad to build that new stadium and not be at the top table - unless plans afoot with Edinburgh Rugby.


I've never been convinced by the Edinburgh to Raeburn rumours. The opprobrium from the local community would be a huge challenge in my view. There are some very influential people in the circles that oppose the existing development I believe.

As an aside, I know a few people in the community around Murrayfield too who are vehemently opposed to the SRU accommodating the SFA for international matches and club finals - it'll be interesting to see if their voices are heard should Murrayfield become the preferred venue. I can see where they are coming from - apparently the mess left by rugby fans is already a disgrace (the clean up operation does not extend to the front gardens of those affected for instance). Having 50,000 pissed up old firm fans pissing in their doorways and abusing their families is a whole other level.


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Alba wrote:
It's disappointing but predictable that the borders probably won't get a combined side together. It's, what, 25km from Gala to Hawick with Melrose and Selkirk both broadly in between - that's 4 Prem 1 teams and a brilliant playing pool. I've already heard the old 'grumble grumble I won't watch Melrose play, g rumble grumble I wouldn't play for them' shite from a number of family and friends. It really is sad.


It'll come back to bite them in the arse. If a young guy has some ambition to play pro, is he going to play for the only semi pro team in the area or stick with amateurs? Melrose may end up sweeping up all the talent.


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Biffer29 wrote:
Alba wrote:
It's disappointing but predictable that the borders probably won't get a combined side together. It's, what, 25km from Gala to Hawick with Melrose and Selkirk both broadly in between - that's 4 Prem 1 teams and a brilliant playing pool. I've already heard the old 'grumble grumble I won't watch Melrose play, g rumble grumble I wouldn't play for them' shite from a number of family and friends. It really is sad.


It'll come back to bite them in the arse. If a young guy has some ambition to play pro, is he going to play for the only semi pro team in the area or stick with amateurs? Melrose may end up sweeping up all the talent.


Apparently A big sticking point for a borders bid was a home ground. They wanted a team to play at different borders grounds and I believe the criteria is forma single home venue bar exceptional circumstances like Currie playing at Oriam due to snow.


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Match preview for Glasgow v Zebre tomorrow night:

https://wp.me/p68WtH-7XL

Some handy players coming off the injury list at the right time for the run-in to the end of the season. Rennie's selection issues may flip from trying to scratch a team together to trying to accommodate all his available options!


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...........there is still uncertainty about another front-row forward, Alasdair Dickinson, who has not played since breaking a foot last season and also undergoing shoulder surgery while rehabbing that injury. “He’s had some serious injuries, so we must make sure he’s dead right before he comes back into playing,” Cockerill said of the 34-year-old prop. “It’s hard to say when he’ll be back. He has to prove to himself that he is ready to come back and play and be confident.

“The union and the club are supportive and when he feels comfortable to come back he will. Maybe there will be another decision he needs to make further down the line, but we’re not there yet.

“He’s a very experienced player who has done a lot for Scottish rugby. It’s right we are patient with him so he can make the right choice, whether that is playing again or not playing again. He’s had a lot of serious injuries and he’s still a young man, so it has to be right for him.”

https://theoffsideline.com/edinburgh-ru ... on-climax/

It does sound like there is doubt about Dickinson coming back (not too much surprise after so long), but there does seem to be a hint that the issue is as much one of desire to come back as ability to.


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Not surprising, you would be seriously assessing your options at that stage. Shame. Seemed he had just come into his prime and then got burst for years.


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Embra ground out a solid away win at Connacht and Glasgow scored 10 tries v Zebre. Not a bad Friday night. Shame the footballers are losing to Costa Rica, but then McLeish has convinced all the doubters he is indeed a massive cretin with his squad selection.


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Good wins for Embra at Connacht and the Weegies squeak home against the Italians.


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Doc Rob wrote:
Embra ground out a solid away win at Connacht and Glasgow scored 10 tries v Zebre. Not a bad Friday night. Shame the footballers are losing to Costa Rica, but then McLeish has convinced all the doubters he is indeed a massive cretin with his squad selection.


And Weir made it look like the wrong 10 is going, I've not seen him play that well for a long time.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2018 10:55 pm 
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Edinburgh01 wrote:
Doc Rob wrote:
Embra ground out a solid away win at Connacht and Glasgow scored 10 tries v Zebre. Not a bad Friday night. Shame the footballers are losing to Costa Rica, but then McLeish has convinced all the doubters he is indeed a massive cretin with his squad selection.


And Weir made it look like the wrong 10 is going, I've not seen him play that well for a long time.


Still think Weir could do a job for Scotland. He’ll never get the backs moving like Russell can, but he’s a hell of an option to close out a tight game.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2018 10:58 pm 
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Doc Rob wrote:
Edinburgh01 wrote:
Doc Rob wrote:
Embra ground out a solid away win at Connacht and Glasgow scored 10 tries v Zebre. Not a bad Friday night. Shame the footballers are losing to Costa Rica, but then McLeish has convinced all the doubters he is indeed a massive cretin with his squad selection.


And Weir made it look like the wrong 10 is going, I've not seen him play that well for a long time.

Still think Weir could do a job for Scotland. He’ll never get the backs moving like Russell can, but he’s a hell of an option to close out a tight game.


Tonight was a good example. Came on, played the percentages, kicked well and kept Connacht pinned back in places they were unlikely to score from. He'll never be flash, but this was the kind of controlled play that made him a Scotland regular in the past.

Having said the, he was poor for a good bit for Edinburgh and is only now finding his feet too late.


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Edinburgh01 wrote:
Doc Rob wrote:
Edinburgh01 wrote:
Doc Rob wrote:
Embra ground out a solid away win at Connacht and Glasgow scored 10 tries v Zebre. Not a bad Friday night. Shame the footballers are losing to Costa Rica, but then McLeish has convinced all the doubters he is indeed a massive cretin with his squad selection.


And Weir made it look like the wrong 10 is going, I've not seen him play that well for a long time.

Still think Weir could do a job for Scotland. He’ll never get the backs moving like Russell can, but he’s a hell of an option to close out a tight game.


Tonight was a good example. Came on, played the percentages, kicked well and kept Connacht pinned back in places they were unlikely to score from. He'll never be flash, but this was the kind of controlled play that made him a Scotland regular in the past.

Having said the, he was poor for a good bit for Edinburgh and is only now finding his feet too late.


Agreed. If he had played like this from the start he wouldn’t be leaving now.

He is basically the anti-Russell. Solid, unspectacular, will do the simple things well. (Well, right now at least)


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'Right now' is the correct phrase. He had some extraordinarily flaky spells where he put every foot wrong.

Hopefully this continues for him, but unless he starts games through injury and performs the same, just too late.


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'Right now' is the correct phrase. He had some extraordinarily flaky spells where he put every foot wrong.

Hopefully this continues for him, but unless he starts games through injury and performs the same, just too late.


I hope he keeps putting in performances like this for Edinburgh until he goes. I can't see him being kept no matter how well he plays as I expect the budget and plans fr next year are set, but the better he plays the more likely he is to get a decent contract elsewhere. He has been a good servant for Scottish rugby and he is still a young man, plenty of time for him to realise his potential.

Who knows, Glasgow do seem to be re-forming the old band.


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Edinburgh01 wrote:
Doc Rob wrote:
Embra ground out a solid away win at Connacht and Glasgow scored 10 tries v Zebre. Not a bad Friday night. Shame the footballers are losing to Costa Rica, but then McLeish has convinced all the doubters he is indeed a massive cretin with his squad selection.


And Weir made it look like the wrong 10 is going, I've not seen him play that well for a long time.


The other player that stood out is also going - John Hardie. Great shift from him.

But Nathan Fowles x(


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zt1903 wrote:
Edinburgh01 wrote:
Doc Rob wrote:
Embra ground out a solid away win at Connacht and Glasgow scored 10 tries v Zebre. Not a bad Friday night. Shame the footballers are losing to Costa Rica, but then McLeish has convinced all the doubters he is indeed a massive cretin with his squad selection.


And Weir made it look like the wrong 10 is going, I've not seen him play that well for a long time.


The other player that stood out is also going - John Hardie. Great shift from him.

But Nathan Fowles x(

Hardie was excellent indeed.

Hope he finds a good club elsewhere.


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6 wins on the bounce for embra :thumbup:

Cockers seems to be exactly the right appointment, give the fannies a bit of much needed grit. Be great to have both teams in the big boy comp next year if they make it


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zt1903 wrote:
Edinburgh01 wrote:
Doc Rob wrote:
Embra ground out a solid away win at Connacht and Glasgow scored 10 tries v Zebre. Not a bad Friday night. Shame the footballers are losing to Costa Rica, but then McLeish has convinced all the doubters he is indeed a massive cretin with his squad selection.


And Weir made it look like the wrong 10 is going, I've not seen him play that well for a long time.


The other player that stood out is also going - John Hardie. Great shift from him.

But Nathan Fowles x(


Yet to see a performance from fowles that I’ve thought was passable, really need a decent 9


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dargotronV.1 wrote:
zt1903 wrote:
Edinburgh01 wrote:
Doc Rob wrote:
Embra ground out a solid away win at Connacht and Glasgow scored 10 tries v Zebre. Not a bad Friday night. Shame the footballers are losing to Costa Rica, but then McLeish has convinced all the doubters he is indeed a massive cretin with his squad selection.


And Weir made it look like the wrong 10 is going, I've not seen him play that well for a long time.


The other player that stood out is also going - John Hardie. Great shift from him.

But Nathan Fowles x(

Hardie was excellent indeed.

Hope he finds a good club elsewhere.


Sure I heard that he was off to Montpellier.


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Lorthern Nights wrote:
6 wins on the bounce for embra :thumbup:

Cockers seems to be exactly the right appointment, give the fannies a bit of much needed grit. Be great to have both teams in the big boy comp next year if they make it

Only 5 points off Leinster, 2 behind scarlets. With 3 homes games remaining, 1 of which is against Scarlets, there's a decent chance they could come second in the conference, which would not only give them a home semi and a champions cup spot, but would represent a fantastic achievement, when you consider where they were at the start of the season.

Edit- second place would mean a home semi v Cheetahs on current positioning, but could still end up as Cardiff or Munster depending on how Cheetahs get on at home v those two teams in the next two rounds


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dargotronV.1 wrote:
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6 wins on the bounce for embra :thumbup:

Cockers seems to be exactly the right appointment, give the fannies a bit of much needed grit. Be great to have both teams in the big boy comp next year if they make it

Only 5 points off Leinster, 2 behind scarlets. With 3 homes games remaining, 1 of which is against Scarlets, there's a decent chance they could come second in the conference, which would not only give them a home semi and a champions cup spot, but would represent a fantastic achievement, when you consider where they were at the start of the season.

Edit- second place would mean a home semi v Cheetahs on current positioning, but could still end up as Cardiff or Munster depending on how Cheetahs get on at home v those two teams in the next two rounds


As a long suffering Edinburgh supporter, where they are now is barely believable. In the past, in the unlikely event of Edinburgh being in this position, you just know they'd proceed to lose all their remaining games and blow it. Now they seem to have strength of character to see this through even though Ulster, Llanelli and Glasgow is a tough run in.

I've not done the maths, but I'll take Disco's word for it that any win v Ulster sees Edinburgh into the finals. Which would then take the pressure off the next game and they can throw the kitchen sink at Llanelli without the pressure of a must win game.


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Just checked Ulster's run in. They have a 13 point gap to make up and Edinburgh away, Ospreys home, Glasgow home and Munster away in which to do it.

In addition to Edinburgh away, the Llanelli have Glasgow at home and the Dragons away.

So Glasgow will have a big say in the outcome of both tables. Go Glasgow! except when they play Edinburgh when I hope they have an inexplicable collapse in form.


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Edinburgh01 wrote:
dargotronV.1 wrote:
Lorthern Nights wrote:
6 wins on the bounce for embra :thumbup:

Cockers seems to be exactly the right appointment, give the fannies a bit of much needed grit. Be great to have both teams in the big boy comp next year if they make it

Only 5 points off Leinster, 2 behind scarlets. With 3 homes games remaining, 1 of which is against Scarlets, there's a decent chance they could come second in the conference, which would not only give them a home semi and a champions cup spot, but would represent a fantastic achievement, when you consider where they were at the start of the season.

Edit- second place would mean a home semi v Cheetahs on current positioning, but could still end up as Cardiff or Munster depending on how Cheetahs get on at home v those two teams in the next two rounds


As a long suffering Edinburgh supporter, where they are now is barely believable. In the past, in the unlikely event of Edinburgh being in this position, you just know they'd proceed to lose all their remaining games and blow it. Now they seem to have strength of character to see this through even though Ulster, Llanelli and Glasgow is a tough run in.

I've not done the maths, but I'll take Disco's word for it that any win v Ulster sees Edinburgh into the finals. Which would then take the pressure off the next game and they can throw the kitchen sink at Llanelli without the pressure of a must win game.

in a combined (regular) league format, Edinburgh would be fourth in the league at the moment, with Glasgow top. Pretty darn decent.

Win the Ulster game and it's goodnight Nordies. Even if they lost, it would take a dramatic turnaround in form to see Ulster take the necessary points to further put the pressure on.

Then throw the kitchen sink at the Scarlets and who knows.


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All Scottish club final is what I’m now looking forward to. Where is the final being played this year?


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All Scottish club final is what I’m now looking forward to. Where is the final being played this year?

Dublin.


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Don't think at this point Edinburgh's first xv is really strong enough to challenge.

Depending on who they bring in to play 9 next year and Hickey going well with the squad they have could be well up there in 2019.


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I like haggis wrote:
Don't think at this point Edinburgh's first xv is really strong enough to challenge.

Depending on who they bring in to play 9 next year and Hickey going well with the squad they have could be well up there in 2019.


Cheeky wee offer to test Vellacott’s resolve? ;)


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Edinburgh01 wrote:
Lorthern Nights wrote:
All Scottish club final is what I’m now looking forward to. Where is the final being played this year?

Dublin.


Thanks


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Doc Rob wrote:
I like haggis wrote:
Don't think at this point Edinburgh's first xv is really strong enough to challenge.

Depending on who they bring in to play 9 next year and Hickey going well with the squad they have could be well up there in 2019.


Cheeky wee offer to test Vellacott’s resolve? ;)


We'd also need stump up a fee to test Gloucesters resolve.


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Big D wrote:
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I like haggis wrote:
Don't think at this point Edinburgh's first xv is really strong enough to challenge.

Depending on who they bring in to play 9 next year and Hickey going well with the squad they have could be well up there in 2019.


Cheeky wee offer to test Vellacott’s resolve? ;)


We'd also need stump up a fee to test Gloucesters resolve.


Get Laidlaw into embra as well and they would be cooking although I think he’s on s longish deal at Clermont


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Rather pleased to see Glasgow do an Italian Job at the weekend. Edinburgh looking good enough to challenge? Maybe. Reckon the top 4 shootout will be Glasgow, Edinburgh, Munster & Leinster. So who knows, an all Scottish final could be on the cards! :D


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Rather pleased to see Glasgow do an Italian Job at the weekend. Edinburgh looking good enough to challenge? Maybe. Reckon the top 4 shootout will be Glasgow, Edinburgh, Munster & Leinster. So who knows, an all Scottish final could be on the cards! :D


I don't see Cardiff or the Cheetahs making a late run into contention, but the Scarlets are the reigning champions and will be in the mix.

Edinburgh are still not a great team but seem to have forgotten how to lose a game.

If I've got the maths of the Pro14 right, if the burghers stay in third their path to the final is by beating Munster away and then Leinster away. If they catch the Scarlets it becomes Cheetahs at home then Glasgow away. Assuming Munster and Cheetahs stay 2nd and 3rd in Conf A.


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Rather pleased to see Glasgow do an Italian Job at the weekend. Edinburgh looking good enough to challenge? Maybe. Reckon the top 4 shootout will be Glasgow, Edinburgh, Munster & Leinster. So who knows, an all Scottish final could be on the cards! :D


I don't see Cardiff or the Cheetahs making a late run into contention, but the Scarlets are the reigning champions and will be in the mix.

Edinburgh are still not a great team but seem to have forgotten how to lose a game.

If I've got the maths of the Pro14 right, if the burghers stay in third their path to the final is by beating Munster away and then Leinster away. If they catch the Scarlets it becomes Cheetahs at home then Glasgow away. Assuming Munster and Cheetahs stay 2nd and 3rd in Conf A.


That Scarlets game becomes crucial for Edinburgh if that's right. Getting to the final by beating Munster at Thomond, then Leinster in Dublin would be an epic achievement for this Edinburgh team and likely be beyond them, but it is the only chance (a VERY slim one at that) of an all Scottish final so I am somewhat conflicted!


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Dodson extends contract. Been a good CEO so far, so lets hope he keeps the progress up.

https://www.scotsman.com/sport/rugby-un ... -1-4714327


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Apologies Gents if I've missed something in your calculations about Edinburgh - it is probably just that you don't believe it's possible but I think:
If Edinburgh beat Ulster (at MF)
and then beat Scarlets (at MF) then,
they have an (already qualified) Glasgow at MF - a win here gives a home match(as 2nd ahead of Scarlets) v 3rd in the other conference for a semi final place - no?


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malky wrote:
Apologies Gents if I've missed something in your calculations about Edinburgh - it is probably just that you don't believe it's possible but I think:
If Edinburgh beat Ulster (at MF)
and then beat Scarlets (at MF) then,
they have an (already qualified) Glasgow at MF - a win here gives a home match(as 2nd ahead of Scarlets) v 3rd in the other conference for a semi final place - no?


It's this. We know it is possible, but that is a fairly unlikely run of results, even at home. The games come in a nice order of ascending priorities which helps though:
* Beat Ulster, secure a playoff spot (we'll also be hoping Glasgow beat Scarlets);
* Beat Scarlets. If the Scarlets Glasgow game has gone our way the previous week, we could actually secure second place in this game;
* Beat Glasgow. If things have gone our way, it is in our hands. Scarlets have a banker against the Dragons, so if we aren't in position by this game we won't finish second.


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malky wrote:
Apologies Gents if I've missed something in your calculations about Edinburgh - it is probably just that you don't believe it's possible but I think:
If Edinburgh beat Ulster (at MF)
and then beat Scarlets (at MF) then,
they have an (already qualified) Glasgow at MF - a win here gives a home match(as 2nd ahead of Scarlets) v 3rd in the other conference for a semi final place - no?


Yes- see last page:

me, myself & I wrote:
If I've got the maths of the Pro14 right, if the burghers stay in third their path to the final is by beating Munster away and then Leinster away. If they catch the Scarlets it becomes Cheetahs at home then Glasgow away. Assuming Munster and Cheetahs stay 2nd and 3rd in Conf A.


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