I thought Ferg's performances this season had clearly put to bed the McFadden vs Daverage debate from last year. Obviously not. Some people just won't admit they're wrong

Leinster Rugby still on Sundays.

It's only AIL that clashes.

Club matches in Ulster are generally on Saturdays.

You'd wonder if Dave Kearney will even get a new contract at this rate. He seems to be a break glass in case of emergency selection these days.

I guess I was talking about my own experiences. There's pretty much zero overlap in the people who regularly go to Leinster games and go down to the Brook of a Saturday.

And your games are mostly Friday so it's grand

There's aspects of a FF manifesto I find disconcertingly appealing.

Thank fudge stats isn’t from Munster

I see no action against Folau by the ARU after he said all gays were going to hell despite Sponsors kicking off.

Not quite the same thing champ

Their best player.

Not really the same is it? Folau is a big name player, guaranteed to bring people through the gates and one of the biggest superstars in Australian sport.

Also, who said the world had to be consistent? Although you might be pushing the conspiracy angle.

No, it's much worse. Describing a sexual position vs telling a community they will go to hell.

I heard a few people pointed out a bit of hypocrisy in Quantas. But no one in the media here, North or South questioned the cheek of BOI in lecturing anyone on ethics.

Yeah, what Folau said was in a public forum and was far, far more offensive.

We really shouldn't be comparing the two situations.

I do.

Youths all on Saturdays except when big Leinster games are on such as this Saturday when they get moved to Sunday.

Nah, it’s his religious view. It’s mad but he has the right to his religious view. I’m not defending the sacking of the Ulster lads but it is different.

Not quite true.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingn ... 37650.html

I had seen a few other mentions.

Absolutely - completely different situations.

Earl, even though Olding and Jackson are completely innocent, there was an awful lot of 'dirty laundry' (and not just the actual stuff) brought out in public in the court case. And like it or not this (and not just the WhatsApp comments) has hugely affected the way people, including sponsers think about the situation.

I hadn't seen that. I stand corrected.
I personally see both sides. It hurts as an Ulster fan to lose the two players but I don't think the IRFU had much choice.

That's because most decent and right-thinking people don't venture on there.

Yeah if UR / IRFU decision had gone the other way, you'd probably have the same people bemoaning the lack of income down the line. Difficult decision to make, but ultimately money talks.

Yeah its deeper than just sponsors. Its thinking 10 years down the line, will this affect the playing numbers?

Israel was expressing a religious view.

The law is very clear about sacking people for that.

Fly tipping and proud of it

UAFC is an absolute lunatic fringe. It's also an echo chamber because nobody with more than 2 brain cells bothers to post there, which means there is nobody to tell any of them to wise up and they just work themselves into a lather.

Folau is entitled to believe in whatever imaginary sky person he chooses and publish what he believes. The fact that he thinks the imaginary sky person will send the gays to an imaginary purgatory is a bit unfortunate.

The whole PC movement is veering dangerously away from a respect for how people choose to live their own lives, towards an expectation that it should be possible to dictate how people live their lives and express their views.

So were Ashers

I reckon Folau was on Ulsters hit-list if the ARU let him go. Teaming up with Cipriani.

Ashers were done for discriminating against a gay man, there was legislation involved concerning refusal to provide a service.

ARU could just go for sponsorship from Coopers.

https://www.smh.com.au/business/pubs-bo ... uxbk8.html

Equality legislation says they can’t discriminate in the provision of services, but they are still free to hold whatever view they want. So basically another f**king dumb straw man load of bollox thick as pig shit sorry everready you were right post.

They refused because of the message on the cake not because the customer was gay tbf.

He said gay people would go to a fictional place. Its not all that upsetting. .

I hear that Nucifora has blocked Ulster signing an NIQ 10 as he wants an IQ option developed.

FML.

What. The. Fück.

European games generally on Saturdays tbf (not that we'll have any clashes next year what with playing on thursday nights.

Don't mean to be pedantic but purgatory is a Catholic concept. Folau is some variation of Pentecostal.

Heard from who?