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So will May survive a vote of no confidence?
What exactly happens when the HOC rejects the Brexit plans?


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 10:06 am 
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Fake news.

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Another vote is the only way. One where you rank your preference from 1 to 3. Out / in / propesed deal.


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There’s been a shift in the Tory media towards backing May in the past few days - they know it’s this deal or “no brexit at all”


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Theresa May will last longer than this thread.


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 10:08 am 
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Theresa May will last longer than this thread.

:lol: :x


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Wouldst thee and thine desire a sticky, I can help.

We can have a go at a constructive debate here (first time for everything, right?)


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Wouldst thee and thine desire a sticky, I can help.

We can have a go at a constructive debate here (first time for everything, right?)

Good idea Top modding.


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 10:12 am 
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c69 wrote:
So will May survive a vote of no confidence?
What exactly happens when the HOC rejects the Brexit plans?

He’s telling vile lies.

Quick! The hammer!!


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Knackers gonna knacker


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There’s been a shift in the Tory media towards backing May in the past few days - they know it’s this deal or “no brexit at all”


Not sure that’s right, just have a look at the front page of the Terrorgraph website (you probably won’t be able to read most of the articles, which are now behind the ‘premium’ paywall, but you’ll get the idea!) - all about how no deal would be fine, how unacceptable the deal is, how the deal can be re-negotiated and some other stuff slagging off remainers.


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What it is this Brexit you speak of?


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Duff Paddy wrote:
There’s been a shift in the Tory media towards backing May in the past few days - they know it’s this deal or “no brexit at all”


Not sure that’s right, just have a look at the front page of the Terrorgraph website (you probably won’t be able to read most of the articles, which are now behind the ‘premium’ paywall, but you’ll get the idea!) - all about how no deal would be fine, how unacceptable the deal is, how the deal can be re-negotiated and some other stuff slagging off remainers.

It's ony The Mail that has changed it's tone. And that's only since the c unt Dacre stepped down as editor


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c69 wrote:
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Wouldst thee and thine desire a sticky, I can help.

We can have a go at a constructive debate here (first time for everything, right?)

Good idea Top modding.

Done.


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Duff Paddy wrote:
There’s been a shift in the Tory media towards backing May in the past few days - they know it’s this deal or “no brexit at all”


Not sure that’s right, just have a look at the front page of the Terrorgraph website (you probably won’t be able to read most of the articles, which are now behind the ‘premium’ paywall, but you’ll get the idea!) - all about how no deal would be fine, how unacceptable the deal is, how the deal can be re-negotiated and some other stuff slagging off remainers.

It's ony The Mail that has changed it's tone. And that's only since the c unt Dacre stepped down as editor


Indeed. The Mail has now gone 380 and is anti=Brexit. Bit to late as they have caused most of the damage in the first place, but better late than never. Interesting piece on it here:

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Yet the editorial in today’s Daily Mail about the Tory party and Brexit is such a striking change of course that an exception to normal self-restraint is in order.

The headline on its leader – “Saboteurs endangering the nation” – may have seemed like normal Daily Mail fare. This was the newspaper, after all, which in its “Who will speak for England?” headline in 2016 pushed David Cameron aside and placed itself firmly at the head of the leave campaign; which used stories like “Plans to let 1.5m Turks into Britain” to make leave’s final push explicitly anti-migrant; which charged Britain’s impartial judges with being “Enemies of the people” for ruling that parliament was sovereign in the Brexit process; which welcomed Theresa May’s 2017 election launch with a call to “Crush the saboteurs”; and which, under the snarling headline “Proud of yourselves?”, excoriated 11 Tory MPs who backed a meaningful vote on Brexit for their “treachery”.

Yet the tone and, in particular, the focus of this morning’s leader were, in fact, very different from that confident in-your-face era. Instead of firing up the Brexiters for yet another act of anti-European contempt and defiance, as it had done for so long, the Mail this week turned its fire on them instead. It denounced the “arch-Brexiteers” for their “self-promotion and peacocking” and their efforts to undermine Mrs May. Former Mail heroes like Iain Duncan Smith, David Davis and Mr Johnson were dismissed as “vulgar bit-part players” and “back-stabbing plotters”, – and above all Mrs May, “the only person” who can secure an “acceptable outcome” and “sensible deal”. :lol: :lol:


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Tony Connolly on how the deal was done.

https://www.rte.ie/news/analysis-and-co ... 85-brexit/

Worth the read.


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 11:50 am 
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I've avoided brexit related threads mostly but I find May's latest proposal quite interesting.

- Indefinite status quo (custom's union) until a deal is worked out at some point in the next century.

:lol: :lol: :lol:


Serves the Hard Brexiteers right for being twats about Chequers.


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camroc1 wrote:
Tony Connolly on how the deal was done.

https://www.rte.ie/news/analysis-and-co ... 85-brexit/

Worth the read.

The deal has not been done. The offer is unacceptable so worth a read it ain't


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camroc1 wrote:
Tony Connolly on how the deal was done.

https://www.rte.ie/news/analysis-and-co ... 85-brexit/

Worth the read.

The deal has not been done. The offer is unacceptable so worth a read it ain't

The deal is done, that is why it was presented to the Cabinet and published.


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Sefton wrote:
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camroc1 wrote:
Tony Connolly on how the deal was done.

https://www.rte.ie/news/analysis-and-co ... 85-brexit/

Worth the read.

The deal has not been done. The offer is unacceptable so worth a read it ain't

The deal is done, that is why it was presented to the Cabinet and published.


Its not done until been passed by Parliament and the 27 other countries. Its very, very far from being done.


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ChipSpike wrote:
Sefton wrote:
Anonymous. wrote:
camroc1 wrote:
Tony Connolly on how the deal was done.

https://www.rte.ie/news/analysis-and-co ... 85-brexit/

Worth the read.

The deal has not been done. The offer is unacceptable so worth a read it ain't

The deal is done, that is why it was presented to the Cabinet and published.


Its not done until been passed by Parliament and the 27 other countries. Its very, very far from being done.

It's a proposed deal. This is a fact Sefton knows. It's so far from being done it's a joke


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The European Union have made it clear that this is essentially take it or leave it territory. It is either this or no Deal. There isn’t time for anything else, no second referendum, no renegotiation, no significant extension of article 50.


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Anonymous. wrote:
ChipSpike wrote:
Sefton wrote:
Anonymous. wrote:
camroc1 wrote:
Tony Connolly on how the deal was done.

https://www.rte.ie/news/analysis-and-co ... 85-brexit/

Worth the read.

The deal has not been done. The offer is unacceptable so worth a read it ain't

The deal is done, that is why it was presented to the Cabinet and published.


Its not done until been passed by Parliament and the 27 other countries. Its very, very far from being done.

It's a proposed deal. This is a fact Sefton knows. It's so far from being done it's a joke


Hell; at least now everyone has a concrete document to accept or reject !

My worry is that the Brexiteers in the pizza club, are planning on fucking up even that, by trying to tack on amendments during its passage in Westminster, so they can get it rejected, & have their own wet dream, a No Deal, & a way to blame the EU


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40 good reasons no body should support the deal, remained or brexiteer.



https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2018/11/t ... ssion=true


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The European Union have made it clear that this is essentially take it or leave it territory. It is either this or no Deal. There isn’t time for anything else, no second referendum, no renegotiation, no significant extension of article 50.


Not what I heard on the news. EU correspondent saying if the deal is rejected by Parliament it could be tweaked to get it through.


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ChipSpike wrote:
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camroc1 wrote:
Tony Connolly on how the deal was done.

https://www.rte.ie/news/analysis-and-co ... 85-brexit/

Worth the read.

The deal has not been done. The offer is unacceptable so worth a read it ain't

The deal is done, that is why it was presented to the Cabinet and published.


It's not done until been passed by Parliament and the 27 other countries. It's very, very far from being done.


Fixed.

With the Daily Mail now u-turning and backing remain, I can see a lot more people having second thoughts. Hmm, I wonder if the Mail will get behind a peoples' vote?


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ChipSpike wrote:
Sefton wrote:
Anonymous. wrote:
camroc1 wrote:
Tony Connolly on how the deal was done.

https://www.rte.ie/news/analysis-and-co ... 85-brexit/

Worth the read.

The deal has not been done. The offer is unacceptable so worth a read it ain't

The deal is done, that is why it was presented to the Cabinet and published.


It's not done until been passed by Parliament and the 27 other countries. It's very, very far from being done.


Fixed.

With the Daily Mail now u-turning and backing remain, I can see a lot more people having second thoughts. Hmm, I wonder if the Mail will get behind a peoples' vote?


The DM appears to be backing May's deal. It's an open question whether or not that is actually remaining. I wonder what will happen if the EU refuse a trade deal just to put the backstop in operation. Could that actually stand for long? I doubt it.


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I haven't looked at the deal in depth but is it fair to say that it's a de facto extension?

Seems reasonable from where we stand currently. I just don't see how a no deal works.


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The deal is done, it’s just not implemented at present.


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ChipSpike wrote:
Sefton wrote:
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camroc1 wrote:
Tony Connolly on how the deal was done.

https://www.rte.ie/news/analysis-and-co ... 85-brexit/

Worth the read.

The deal has not been done. The offer is unacceptable so worth a read it ain't

The deal is done, that is why it was presented to the Cabinet and published.


Its not done until been passed by Parliament and the 27 other countries. Its very, very far from being done.

Nothing's agreed until everything is agreed.

Some EU members feel Barnier has given away too much. Do you think the UK would be open to further discussion of any tweaks required by the EU?


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We got a new thread :o

To celebrate, watch this most excellent Brexit video: :lol:

https://www.captiongenerator.com/117638 ... r4.twitter


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Young lads in England celebrate.
https://twitter.com/ffs_omg/status/1063 ... 67777?s=12
:lol: :lol:


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Is that the script for Kes-2?


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Hell; at least now everyone has a concrete document to accept or reject !

My worry is that the Brexiteers in the pizza club, are planning on fucking up even that, by trying to tack on amendments during its passage in Westminster, so they can get it rejected, & have their own wet dream, a No Deal, & a way to blame the EU

Are you saying you think they should accept this these proposals even though they have repeatedly said they are against them.


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Is that the script for Kes-2?

Haven’t seen the film put just read the plot. :lol: :lol:
I meant young lads, not you lads.. but you lads works too.


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Adetroy wrote:
The European Union have made it clear that this is essentially take it or leave it territory. It is either this or no Deal. There isn’t time for anything else, no second referendum, no renegotiation, no significant extension of article 50.

If there was any sniff of a possibility of a second referendum the EU would extend article 50


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40 good reasons no body should support the deal, remained or brexiteer.

https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2018/11/t ... ssion=true

Deal is a shambles, as is May. However, I think at the moment there are too many Tory wets in the Party to depose her. The ERG may have jumped too soon. She would definitely be ousted after deal fell in Parliament, but may not be ousted if the vote takes place next week.

If she survives a vote next week, that's 12 months immunity meaning the deal can fall in Parliament, she can go back to the EU who will make superficial changes, and she'll put the deal back to (a fearful remain) Parliament who will pass it at the second time of asking under no-deal pressure.

That's how I see it playing out (and I hope tf I'm wrong).


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Tory Europhobes gave us Blair, this lot - Corbyn.


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Tory Europhobes gave us Blair, this lot - Corbyn.

*Europhiles

Major gave us Blair, May is going to lead to Corbyn.


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Can you lot not see that Europe is just leading you on? - they don't want a deal; they just want you to piss off.


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