Theresa May will last longer than this thread.

Wouldst thee and thine desire a sticky, I can help.

We can have a go at a constructive debate here (first time for everything, right?)

So will May survive a vote of no confidence?
What exactly happens when the HOC rejects the Brexit plans?

There’s been a shift in the Tory media towards backing May in the past few days - they know it’s this deal or “no brexit at all”

Not sure that’s right, just have a look at the front page of the Terrorgraph website (you probably won’t be able to read most of the articles, which are now behind the ‘premium’ paywall, but you’ll get the idea!) - all about how no deal would be fine, how unacceptable the deal is, how the deal can be re-negotiated and some other stuff slagging off remainers.

Good idea Top modding.

It's ony The Mail that has changed it's tone. And that's only since the c unt Dacre stepped down as editor

Yet the editorial in today’s Daily Mail about the Tory party and Brexit is such a striking change of course that an exception to normal self-restraint is in order.

The headline on its leader – “Saboteurs endangering the nation” – may have seemed like normal Daily Mail fare. This was the newspaper, after all, which in its “Who will speak for England?” headline in 2016 pushed David Cameron aside and placed itself firmly at the head of the leave campaign; which used stories like “Plans to let 1.5m Turks into Britain” to make leave’s final push explicitly anti-migrant; which charged Britain’s impartial judges with being “Enemies of the people” for ruling that parliament was sovereign in the Brexit process; which welcomed Theresa May’s 2017 election launch with a call to “Crush the saboteurs”; and which, under the snarling headline “Proud of yourselves?”, excoriated 11 Tory MPs who backed a meaningful vote on Brexit for their “treachery”.

Yet the tone and, in particular, the focus of this morning’s leader were, in fact, very different from that confident in-your-face era. Instead of firing up the Brexiters for yet another act of anti-European contempt and defiance, as it had done for so long, the Mail this week turned its fire on them instead. It denounced the “arch-Brexiteers” for their “self-promotion and peacocking” and their efforts to undermine Mrs May. Former Mail heroes like Iain Duncan Smith, David Davis and Mr Johnson were dismissed as “vulgar bit-part players” and “back-stabbing plotters”, – and above all Mrs May, “the only person” who can secure an “acceptable outcome” and “sensible deal”.

Tony Connolly on how the deal was done.

https://www.rte.ie/news/analysis-and-co ... 85-brexit/

Worth the read.

The deal has not been done. The offer is unacceptable so worth a read it ain't

The deal is done, that is why it was presented to the Cabinet and published.

Its not done until been passed by Parliament and the 27 other countries. Its very, very far from being done.

It's a proposed deal. This is a fact Sefton knows. It's so far from being done it's a joke

The European Union have made it clear that this is essentially take it or leave it territory. It is either this or no Deal. There isn’t time for anything else, no second referendum, no renegotiation, no significant extension of article 50.

It's not done until been passed by Parliament and the 27 other countries. It's very, very far from being done.

Fixed.

With the Daily Mail now u-turning and backing remain, I can see a lot more people having second thoughts. Hmm, I wonder if the Mail will get behind a peoples' vote?

Its not done until been passed by Parliament and the 27 other countries. Its very, very far from being done.

You lads in England celebrate.
https://twitter.com/ffs_omg/status/1063 ... 67777?s=12

Hell; at least now everyone has a concrete document to accept or reject !

My worry is that the Brexiteers in the pizza club, are planning on fucking up even that, by trying to tack on amendments during its passage in Westminster, so they can get it rejected, & have their own wet dream, a No Deal, & a way to blame the EU

Is that the script for Kes-2?

The European Union have made it clear that this is essentially take it or leave it territory. It is either this or no Deal. There isn’t time for anything else, no second referendum, no renegotiation, no significant extension of article 50.

40 good reasons no body should support the deal, remained or brexiteer.

https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2018/11/t ... ssion=true

Tory Europhobes gave us Blair, this lot - Corbyn.