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by Donger
Sat Mar 28, 2020 12:52 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: High School Trip to Cape Town and Stellenbosch
Replies: 33
Views: 1629

Re: High School Trip to Cape Town and Stellenbosch

Taking my kids to Seth Effrica march 30 to april 7. Probably going to Waratahs Stormers match april 4. Need some local guides to help me around... Anyone of you motley lot prepared to host a barbie or a Quiet Little Drink! Or just come along to a game. Will advise when we have a full tour schedule....
by Donger
Sat Mar 28, 2020 12:51 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: High School Trip to Cape Town and Stellenbosch
Replies: 33
Views: 1629

Re: High School Trip to Cape Town and Stellenbosch

tour cancelled. Shit. they are feckin'g with us regarding refunds. talking about credits!!!

might have to do a redux.

will let you all know.

Turk, will try to look you up next time I go to Orlando! I know it is a long way, but hell, Orlando is the ass end of the earth,
by Donger
Wed Jan 22, 2020 8:42 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: High School Trip to Cape Town and Stellenbosch
Replies: 33
Views: 1629

Re: High School Trip to Cape Town and Stellenbosch

Sards, we will catch for a beer, Boet?
by Donger
Wed Jan 22, 2020 2:43 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: High School Trip to Cape Town and Stellenbosch
Replies: 33
Views: 1629

Re: High School Trip to Cape Town and Stellenbosch

PS you know the Beast is coming to DC. Come up and I will take you to a game.
by Donger
Wed Jan 22, 2020 2:42 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: High School Trip to Cape Town and Stellenbosch
Replies: 33
Views: 1629

Re: High School Trip to Cape Town and Stellenbosch

Taking my kids to Seth Effrica march 30 to april 7. Probably going to Waratahs Stormers match april 4. Need some local guides to help me around... Anyone of you motley lot prepared to host a barbie or a Quiet Little Drink! Or just come along to a game. Will advise when we have a full tour schedule....
by Donger
Wed Jan 22, 2020 2:36 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: High School Trip to Cape Town and Stellenbosch
Replies: 33
Views: 1629

Re: High School Trip to Cape Town and Stellenbosch

Taking my kids to Seth Effrica march 30 to april 7. Probably going to Waratahs Stormers match april 4. Need some local guides to help me around... Anyone of you motley lot prepared to host a barbie or a Quiet Little Drink! Or just come along to a game. Will advise when we have a full tour schedule....
by Donger
Wed Jan 22, 2020 2:18 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: High School Trip to Cape Town and Stellenbosch
Replies: 33
Views: 1629

High School Trip to Cape Town and Stellenbosch

Taking my kids to Seth Effrica march 30 to april 7. Probably going to Waratahs Stormers match april 4. Need some local guides to help me around... Anyone of you motley lot prepared to host a barbie or a Quiet Little Drink! Or just come along to a game. Will advise when we have a full tour schedule.
by Donger
Fri Mar 15, 2019 12:38 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Christchurch terrorist attack
Replies: 1981
Views: 69237

Re: Christchurch terrorist attack

jebus.... guys, chin up. My thoughts are with you all.

takes this sort of tragedy to get me back. :((
by Donger
Mon Sep 18, 2017 8:23 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 129797
Views: 5688311

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-Already making America Great Again!

I know they operated across multiple channels. This discussion originated with a map of twitter accounts implicated in Russian bot activity. It sorts of widened to include Facebook where the same issues arise although the data on people contacted is likely much better. It is worthless trying to mea...
by Donger
Mon Sep 18, 2017 8:17 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 129797
Views: 5688311

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-Already making America Great Again!

I know they operated across multiple channels. This discussion originated with a map of twitter accounts implicated in Russian bot activity. It sorts of widened to include Facebook where the same issues arise although the data on people contacted is likely much better. It is worthless trying to mea...
by Donger
Mon Sep 18, 2017 8:17 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 129797
Views: 5688311

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-Already making America Great Again!

In summary: while Russia's Twitter activity may have had one or more impacts, it doesn't necessarily follow that any of it changed voter behaviour and thereby affected the outcome of the election. Moreover, there is no evidence of any such impact )defined as changed voter behaviour). That is not to...
by Donger
Mon Sep 18, 2017 7:57 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 129797
Views: 5688311

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-Already making America Great Again!

but where is the data that supports your hypothesis that they are wrong? why is it baseless? why do you think they are flapping their arms or whatever other claim it was that you made to suggest they were being crazy thinking there was an impact. for the record, I think you are crazy thinking there...
by Donger
Mon Sep 18, 2017 7:54 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 129797
Views: 5688311

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-Already making America Great Again!

:roll: you will be hung on your own petard. My consistent position has been about the lack of evidence. I have made no claim about the the impact itself only that nobody knows if it had an impact (defined as actually influencing voter behaviour) or that if it had an impact how bog that impact was. ...
by Donger
Mon Sep 18, 2017 6:52 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 129797
Views: 5688311

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-Already making America Great Again!

You don't have to have a control group. And the measure would obviously be number of voters whose votes were influenced by the Twitter campaign. The point of measurement is to assess impact. If Russia spent $1m and influenced 15 people then that would have been a waste of money and you could say th...
by Donger
Mon Sep 18, 2017 6:43 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 129797
Views: 5688311

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-Already making America Great Again!

And your need for measurable effects isn't what the issue really is. Without a control group it's going to be pretty damn hard to put a number on what occurred, or how much influence it had. What unit of measurement would you like to establish the level of influence? I declare the Russian influence...
by Donger
Mon Sep 18, 2017 6:41 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 129797
Views: 5688311

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-Already making America Great Again!

:roll: you will be hung on your own petard. My consistent position has been about the lack of evidence. I have made no claim about the the impact itself only that nobody knows if it had an impact (defined as actually influencing voter behaviour) or that if it had an impact how bog that impact was. ...
by Donger
Mon Sep 18, 2017 3:11 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 129797
Views: 5688311

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-Already making America Great Again!

Nope. I'm saying nobody knows whether it was effective or if it was effective how effective it was. On that basis I'm skeptical of any claims about its effectiveness. that's not quite how you posit your arguments. but glad we have it clear. :lol: I reckon I was clear but have no evidence that I was...
by Donger
Mon Sep 18, 2017 3:06 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Wallabies vs Argentina: MATCH THREAD: Canberra: Sept 16
Replies: 223
Views: 11492

Re: Wallabies vs Argentina: MATCH THREAD: Canberra: Sept 16

what's the thinking on that Argie try where Creevy was offside, held back Hanigan, and the scrummie ran into him while scoring.

isn't that like 3 strikes?
by Donger
Fri Sep 15, 2017 3:38 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 129797
Views: 5688311

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-Already making America Great Again!

I understand all that. so you seem to be postulating that it was ineffective, but you cannot prove it. or are you arguing something else? Nope. I'm saying nobody knows whether it was effective or if it was effective how effective it was. On that basis I'm skeptical of any claims about its effective...
by Donger
Fri Sep 15, 2017 3:37 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 129797
Views: 5688311

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-Already making America Great Again!

and where you have things that can only be supported by argument and opinion, you look to experts. :thumbup: I fear you are being a bit lazy about this. Scientists don't tend to make shit up (a la Nate Silver above) in the absence of evidence. They tend to say "I don't know, we don't have the evide...
by Donger
Fri Sep 15, 2017 1:39 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 129797
Views: 5688311

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-Already making America Great Again!

I understand all that. so you seem to be postulating that it was ineffective, but you cannot prove it. or are you arguing something else? Nope. I'm saying nobody knows whether it was effective or if it was effective how effective it was. On that basis I'm skeptical of any claims about its effective...
by Donger
Fri Sep 15, 2017 1:39 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 129797
Views: 5688311

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-Already making America Great Again!

and where you have things that can only be supported by argument and opinion, you look to experts. :thumbup: I fear you are being a bit lazy about this. Scientists don't tend to make shit up (a la Nate Silver above) in the absence of evidence. They tend to say "I don't know, we don't have the evide...
by Donger
Fri Sep 15, 2017 1:35 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 129797
Views: 5688311

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-Already making America Great Again!

pardon. It seems I inferred... And it has other effects other than influencing voting like f**king up the public debate, distracting people, spreading rumours etc. had a bearing? or not? An easy thing to do. But the whole way through I have been speaking about changing voting behaviour, which is th...
by Donger
Fri Sep 15, 2017 1:17 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 129797
Views: 5688311

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-Already making America Great Again!

pardon. It seems I inferred... And it has other effects other than influencing voting like f**king up the public debate, distracting people, spreading rumours etc. had a bearing? or not? An easy thing to do. But the whole way through I have been speaking about changing voting behaviour, which is th...
by Donger
Fri Sep 15, 2017 12:56 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 129797
Views: 5688311

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-Already making America Great Again!

No. The prolonged lull in this thread was because CNN was preoccupied with first Harvey and then Irma, and so without the guidance of the puppet master all of youse on the other side were left stranded and bereft of any 'opinion' to offer the forum. But I imagine CNN will be back shortly to feed th...
by Donger
Fri Sep 15, 2017 12:53 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 129797
Views: 5688311

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-Already making America Great Again!

here is Nate Silver's take on it. https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/is-hillary-clinton-right-about-why-she-lost/ Looks like a bunch of people pulling numbers out if their arses in the absence of evidence. :roll: you mean the opinions of people who observed it closely don't count. chuckle. Donger...
by Donger
Fri Sep 15, 2017 12:52 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 129797
Views: 5688311

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-Already making America Great Again!

Whose behaviour did it change? :roll: Roll your eyes all you want. Online to offline behaviour is part of my world. So is social research. There is no evidence that it influenced a single vote. That doesn't mean that it didn't influence a single vote just that nobody knows how many. The possible ra...
by Donger
Thu Sep 14, 2017 2:21 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 129797
Views: 5688311

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-Already making America Great Again!

so, it had a bearing.... Whose behaviour did it change? :roll: Roll your eyes all you want. Online to offline behaviour is part of my world. So is social research. There is no evidence that it influenced a single vote. That doesn't mean that it didn't influence a single vote just that nobody knows ...
by Donger
Thu Sep 14, 2017 2:20 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 129797
Views: 5688311

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-Already making America Great Again!

here is Nate Silver's take on it. https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/is-hillary-clinton-right-about-why-she-lost/ Looks like a bunch of people pulling numbers out if their arses in the absence of evidence. :roll: you mean the opinions of people who observed it closely don't count. chuckle. Donger...
by Donger
Thu Sep 14, 2017 12:29 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 129797
Views: 5688311

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-Already making America Great Again!

They are starting to realise that Don J bubblefart will debunk the Lincoln myth, will become the Real Deal, become the Greatest POTUS this world has seen . He's certainly the funniest so far. Speaking of funny https://youtu.be/THZjygDVMQ0 how did those Comet ping pong rumours work out for you? apar...
by Donger
Thu Sep 14, 2017 12:23 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 129797
Views: 5688311

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-Already making America Great Again!

Santa wrote:
Donger wrote:
so, it had a bearing....
Whose behaviour did it change?
:roll:
by Donger
Thu Sep 14, 2017 12:22 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 129797
Views: 5688311

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-Already making America Great Again!

here is Nate Silver's take on it. https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/is-hillary-clinton-right-about-why-she-lost/ Looks like a bunch of people pulling numbers out if their arses in the absence of evidence. :roll: you mean the opinions of people who observed it closely don't count. chuckle.
by Donger
Wed Sep 13, 2017 9:53 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 129797
Views: 5688311

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-Already making America Great Again!

E. As the evidence mounts I will stick to my theme no matter what. Point me to one report or piece of research that quantifies an impact by which I mean an offline impact because that is what counts here. Anyone or anybot can retweet but retweets don't necessarily indicate anything. This is well es...
by Donger
Wed Sep 13, 2017 12:28 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: The Rugby Championship: Wallabies discussion
Replies: 401
Views: 37065

Re: The Rugby Championship: Wallabies discussion

So we only have one "real" 8 in the whole country? Doubtful. Every player is different and Cheika can only use the players at his disposal but, I would go as far to say that in the whole time he has been coaching the Wallabies we have not once played a balanced back row. One that worked well togeth...
by Donger
Wed Sep 13, 2017 12:24 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 129797
Views: 5688311

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-Already making America Great Again!

I am way far behind so I have lots of catching up but did want to post this. Ta-Nehisi Coates boils down Trumpism. Just be the anti-Obama and despite your lifelong failures, below average intelligence and laziness - your whiteness will see you through. To bubblefart, whiteness is neither notional n...
by Donger
Wed Sep 06, 2017 1:19 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: American Cops behaving Badly (All inclusive thread)
Replies: 6613
Views: 345742

Re: American Cops behaving Badly (All inclusive thread)

Not sure what you're on about but added twattishness has certainly come along with your old age. you said this thread was a disgrace. you still believe that? or just when it suits you to use the death of some brave cops to advance your pretty base opinions? As mentioned so many times, I think paint...
by Donger
Wed Sep 06, 2017 12:51 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: American Cops behaving Badly (All inclusive thread)
Replies: 6613
Views: 345742

Re: American Cops behaving Badly (All inclusive thread)

Not sure what you're on about but added twattishness has certainly come along with your old age. you said this thread was a disgrace. you still believe that? or just when it suits you to use the death of some brave cops to advance your pretty base opinions? As mentioned so many times, I think paint...