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by Edinburgh01
Wed Mar 03, 2021 2:12 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Krankie goes to Holyrood
Replies: 122
Views: 5750

Re: Krankie goes to Holyrood

Hindsight stepchange increased support. Referendum lost. The likes of Jerpy who had clearly been growing more emboldened as the years of Salmond bullshit went on were crushed by the defeat. Referendum lost. Of course it is hindsight, but it does not stop it being true. No one, and I do mean no one,...
by Edinburgh01
Wed Mar 03, 2021 12:54 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Krankie goes to Holyrood
Replies: 122
Views: 5750

Re: Krankie goes to Holyrood

Salmond would have just kept banging on about a referendum just as he had been for the past decade even though the reality was he had no intention of calling one until the polls were in his favour. Dave got it right by forcing the issue. I disagree. By forcing the issue Cameron gave the independenc...
by Edinburgh01
Wed Mar 03, 2021 9:00 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Krankie goes to Holyrood
Replies: 122
Views: 5750

Re: Krankie goes to Holyrood

The Code of Conduct for Scottish Ministers states that any minister who lies to the Scottish Govt must resign. People forget the SNP are a minority in the Scottish Govt. She would have no chance whatsoever of surviving a vote of no confidence if she tried to hang on if it is proven she did so, not ...
by Edinburgh01
Wed Mar 03, 2021 8:28 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Krankie goes to Holyrood
Replies: 122
Views: 5750

Re: Krankie goes to Holyrood

Salmond has now provided two statements. One from a former SNP MSP and one from the former SNP communications director. Both confirm that the "chance" and brief meeting with Salmonds chief of staff on the 29th March was agreed in advance and Sturgeon was told of the allegations. They have also conf...
by Edinburgh01
Tue Mar 02, 2021 11:27 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Krankie goes to Holyrood
Replies: 122
Views: 5750

Re: Krankie goes to Holyrood

I read a article a while back about how the current swing to independence wasn't as hard or absolute as thought and felt it could be pushed back as Scots feared losing the pound and a hard border. The polls have never reflected the reality. When Cameron pushed for the referendum he did so on the ba...
by Edinburgh01
Tue Mar 02, 2021 11:08 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Krankie goes to Holyrood
Replies: 122
Views: 5750

Re: Krankie goes to Holyrood

Salmond has now provided two statements. One from a former SNP MSP and one from the former SNP communications director. Both confirm that the "chance" and brief meeting with Salmonds chief of staff on the 29th March was agreed in advance and Sturgeon was told of the allegations. They have also conf...
by Edinburgh01
Tue Mar 02, 2021 10:56 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Krankie goes to Holyrood
Replies: 122
Views: 5750

Re: Krankie goes to Holyrood

Salmond has now provided two statements. One from a former SNP MSP and one from the former SNP communications director. Both confirm that the "chance" and brief meeting with Salmonds chief of staff on the 29th March was agreed in advance and Sturgeon was told of the allegations. They have also conf...
by Edinburgh01
Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:08 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans
Replies: 33681
Views: 932159

Re: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans

I must have missed the announcement that restrictions were cancelled in Scotland. It has been a lovely, sunny few days. We are at almost normal year levels of tourists for this time of year, aided by some twats taking accommodation bookings. The hill walking car park was overflowing yesterday, and g...
by Edinburgh01
Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:54 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: 23 seconds from ‘have a word’ to ‘time on’
Replies: 105
Views: 5368

Re: 23 seconds from ‘have a word’ to ‘time on’

I see the ref has admitted he got the 2 tries wrong. Good on him, but it's not going to stop the braying Gammons crying their eyes out is it. Pretty much what sensible posters have been saying. “From the moment when the referee says ‘time on’ the game can recommence,” Jutge explained. “Except that ...
by Edinburgh01
Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:46 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: 6 Nations R3 - Wales vs England
Replies: 922
Views: 23015

Re: 6 Nations R3 - Wales vs England

I know rugby hasn't changed that much since I retired, other than lifting in the line-out, feet on the ground for calling a mark, 5 points for a try etc, but I don't ever remember walking off the pitch being happy because we won the stats battle. If you felt that you had been better in most facets ...
by Edinburgh01
Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:44 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: 23 seconds from ‘have a word’ to ‘time on’
Replies: 105
Views: 5368

Re: 23 seconds from ‘have a word’ to ‘time on’

This does not look like a 'we thought they were going to kick at goal' scenario to me. England were not prepared for any scenario. When I did my ref training long, long ago I was taught that the three guiding principles were, in order, safety, equity, application of the law. Putting aside safety, it...
by Edinburgh01
Sat Feb 27, 2021 5:25 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Krankie goes to Holyrood
Replies: 122
Views: 5750

Re: Krankie goes to Holyrood

Watching this from England (I don't know if this is how the media are playing it). I would be very worried if I was Scottish. If this is how the SNP act with devolution I wonder how they will act with independence with no safety net of Westminster to step in if needed. Interference with the Crown O...
by Edinburgh01
Sat Feb 27, 2021 4:22 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Home Office tell Shamina Begum to FCUK right off.
Replies: 1752
Views: 55864

Re: Home Office tell Shamina Begum to FCUK right off.

Anonymous 1 wrote: Sat Feb 27, 2021 4:20 pm If you acquire your British citizenship fraudulently you can be stripped and left stateless but as far as I am aware that is the only way to leave someone stateless.
True
by Edinburgh01
Sat Feb 27, 2021 4:11 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Home Office tell Shamina Begum to FCUK right off.
Replies: 1752
Views: 55864

Re: Home Office tell Shamina Begum to FCUK right off.

Not British if you accept the loophole that she can claim citizenship elsewhere thus we can strip her citizenship. Which really begs two questions, should one simply able able to strip citizenship even if no other claim is available and where would those people go, and secondly, if another state we...
by Edinburgh01
Sat Feb 27, 2021 4:03 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Krankie goes to Holyrood
Replies: 122
Views: 5750

Re: Krankie goes to Holyrood

Watching this from England (I don't know if this is how the media are playing it). I would be very worried if I was Scottish. If this is how the SNP act with devolution I wonder how they will act with independence with no safety net of Westminster to step in if needed. Interference with the Crown O...
by Edinburgh01
Sat Feb 27, 2021 10:50 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans
Replies: 33681
Views: 932159

Re: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans

Got jabbed today with the Pfizer vaccine. Extremely efficient process and now we get the pubs open :thumbup: Had the Pfizer on Monday. My arm was sore overnight but fine by Tuesday eve. I was very tired on Tuesday as well. I was given a pile of bumph and sent through for the jag . I was amused to s...
by Edinburgh01
Fri Feb 26, 2021 4:12 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans
Replies: 33681
Views: 932159

Re: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans

Got jabbed today with the Pfizer vaccine. Extremely efficient process and now we get the pubs open :thumbup: Had the Pfizer on Monday. My arm was sore overnight but fine by Tuesday eve. I was very tired on Tuesday as well. I was given a pile of bumph and sent through for the jag. I was amused to se...
by Edinburgh01
Fri Feb 26, 2021 12:02 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Home Office tell Shamina Begum to FCUK right off.
Replies: 1752
Views: 55864

Re: Home Office tell Shamina Begum to FCUK right off.

The court backs the Home Office in telling Shamina Begum to FCUK right off it appears: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-56209007 "The Court of Appeal mistakenly believed that, when an individual's right to have a fair hearing... came into conflict with the requirements of national security, her right ...
by Edinburgh01
Fri Feb 26, 2021 10:31 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: 6N in tatters?
Replies: 237
Views: 13880

Re: 6N in tatters?

I guess that if France - Scotland is eventually cancelled TV rights will decrease and this would be pretty bad news for the Unions. I suspect this is why this test match has not been simply cancelled. I was about to make the same point. There is so much obviously wrong with this decision that there...
by Edinburgh01
Thu Feb 25, 2021 9:40 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Is mispronouncing Pasifika names offensive?
Replies: 140
Views: 3107

Re: Is mispronouncing Pasifika names offensive?

Surely this is a problem with names from most nationalities or cultures. Many English and especially Americans struggle with a lot of Scottish surnames. I've often corrected people about mine and even had some cnuts say "that's a silly way to say it". My Italian family struggled so much with my per...
by Edinburgh01
Wed Feb 24, 2021 10:27 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: So, who has booked a holiday in 2021 ?
Replies: 54
Views: 1395

Re: So, who has booked a holiday in 2021 ?

We are getting the same shite we get every time there is any signal that restrictions will start being relaxed . People come up with all sorts of reasons why we should accept their bookings when we have clarity from the Scottish Govt that we can't. Some are clearly chancing their arms, but quite a f...
by Edinburgh01
Tue Feb 23, 2021 11:46 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: 6N in tatters?
Replies: 237
Views: 13880

Re: 6N in tatters?

SRU now saying that 10 of the payers in the current squad would be potentially unavailable the following week depending on the stance taken by clubs.
by Edinburgh01
Tue Feb 23, 2021 11:12 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: 6N in tatters?
Replies: 237
Views: 13880

Re: 6N in tatters?

No new cases today on French side. Scottish side has made clear that they refuse postponing the match because they're unsure they will get some of their players released from the English and French clubs they play for. Probably fairish point, but compared with 10 players out? It would be even more ...
by Edinburgh01
Mon Feb 22, 2021 6:24 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Scotland - Lack of moral authority from the top?
Replies: 9
Views: 1000

Re: Scotland - Lack of moral authority from the top?

message #2527204 wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 1:22 pm
Gwenno wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 10:57 am https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/56148811
Redpath not in squad, 'returned to club' surprising.
Disgusting if they're blaming defeat on the young lad.
It really is disgusting if they are blaming him for a defeat in a game he did not play in.
by Edinburgh01
Fri Feb 19, 2021 2:57 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans
Replies: 33681
Views: 932159

Re: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans

ukjim wrote: Fri Feb 19, 2021 2:45 pm Getting my shot this afternoon.
Someone always has to go one better! :P
by Edinburgh01
Fri Feb 19, 2021 2:44 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans
Replies: 33681
Views: 932159

Re: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans

Vaccination scheduled for 10:00 Monday

Yay!
by Edinburgh01
Fri Feb 19, 2021 2:15 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Krankie goes to Holyrood
Replies: 122
Views: 5750

Re: Krankie goes to Holyrood

It has been pointed out that whether or not there is a case to answer has been buried as political points scoring and internal SNP divisions fighting for superiority took precedence over pursuit of the truth. I have not been following this as obsessively as some. I am pretty sure there were shenanig...
by Edinburgh01
Wed Feb 17, 2021 7:33 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Fagerson's verdict
Replies: 73
Views: 2133

Re: Fagerson's verdict

A Scottish QC who has served on disciplinary panels has confirmed in a publication what we already knew. If you contest the decision you will never get the full reduction. So if a ref makes mistake, the player is supposed to leave it in the hands of the panel to recognise this and act appropriately....
by Edinburgh01
Wed Feb 17, 2021 7:04 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Fagerson's verdict
Replies: 73
Views: 2133

Re: Fagerson's verdict

The referee actually pointed out mitigating circumstances just after it happened. Who are you talking about? If it was Barnes, what he said before the TMO drew his attention to the incident is irrelevant. The review is there to ensure that everyone has clearly seen and understood the incident. What...
by Edinburgh01
Wed Feb 17, 2021 4:27 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Fagerson's verdict
Replies: 73
Views: 2133

Re: Fagerson's verdict

For both Fagerson and POM the first question is 'was it reckless or accidental?' In both cases the answer was 'reckless'. This means the sanction is a red card unless there are mitigating circumstances. For POM there were none. A red card was therefore the only possible option. For Fagerson, a mitig...
by Edinburgh01
Wed Feb 17, 2021 11:27 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Fagerson's verdict
Replies: 73
Views: 2133

Re: Fagerson's verdict

As I said, anyone suggesting that it wasn't a red card is either blind or willfully igornant. There's no mitigation, contact is to the head. I don't think many would have argued if POM got longer, indeed I was amazed POM got any reduction at all but fundamentally Fagerson challenged a clear red car...
by Edinburgh01
Wed Feb 17, 2021 10:56 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Fagerson's verdict
Replies: 73
Views: 2133

Re: Fagerson's verdict

This has been the same forever. If you accept the charge you get more remission than if you challenge it. Ffs even real life courts act like that for pleading guilty. Fagerson, stupidly, challenged the red card and as a result doesn't get 50% reduction. You are wrong with the court analogy. He acce...
by Edinburgh01
Wed Feb 17, 2021 10:16 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Fagerson's verdict
Replies: 73
Views: 2133

Re: Fagerson's verdict

He didnt try to argue it was worse than POMs. He tried to argue it wasnt a red which it clearly was. Its like a criminal trial where an obviously guilty person denies committing a crime and gets a stiffer punishment as a result. Somebody in the Scottish setup should have had a word with Fagerson an...
by Edinburgh01
Wed Feb 17, 2021 10:12 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Fagerson's verdict
Replies: 73
Views: 2133

Re: Fagerson's verdict

So are we banning people depending on how they behave on the field or at the hearing. This speaks volumes to the midset of the people on these panels. Don't dare have the temerity to waste our time by trying to present evidence in your favour. Surely one of them had the foresight to see that most r...
by Edinburgh01
Tue Feb 16, 2021 1:45 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: The Offside Situation
Replies: 51
Views: 1641

Re: The Offside Situation

Some refs seem to ping even when a player goes offside but retreats before the ball is out, others will let it go if they retreat. I am all for the strict application of laws. Let the edges get fuzzy, e.g. a player was offside but not deemed to be interfering with play so it is let go, and it will ...
by Edinburgh01
Tue Feb 16, 2021 1:28 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Italy - piss-off
Replies: 372
Views: 32371

Re: Italy - piss-off

Why does this nonsense keep coming up?

Apart from the fact Italy is clearly better than any alternative rugby team, it guarantees full stadiums for every match it plays in the UK. No other candidate can do that, so none of the UK unions would countenance losing the revenue.
by Edinburgh01
Mon Feb 15, 2021 5:34 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: The multiplication of red cards in rugby because of the new laws about head tackling
Replies: 151
Views: 3578

Re: The multiplication of red cards in rugby because of the new laws about head tackling

I don’t think introducing a points penalty with the red card solves anything. You can’t say “it’s unfair on the other 14 players to make them play an hour down a man” and then turn around and say. “So they have to play 7 points down for the rest of the game instead.” Well I can for the reasons stat...
by Edinburgh01
Mon Feb 15, 2021 5:32 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: The multiplication of red cards in rugby because of the new laws about head tackling
Replies: 151
Views: 3578

Re: The multiplication of red cards in rugby because of the new laws about head tackling

That's an interesting solution. Just to clarify, are you talking points within a match(ie. Perhaps lose 7 points from your scoreline) or match points(ie. if you win, you get 2 points for the win rather than 4)? To be frank, I'd not really thought this through. It was just an off the cuff suggestion...
by Edinburgh01
Mon Feb 15, 2021 12:00 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: The multiplication of red cards in rugby because of the new laws about head tackling
Replies: 151
Views: 3578

Re: The multiplication of red cards in rugby because of the new laws about head tackling

It's a situation that is occurring in fewer and fewer games. Broadly it only results in a lack of competition with weaker teams So that's fine, let's tip the balance even more in favour of the strong team. A weaker team playing a strong team 15 v 15 can often at least make a game of it, whereas 14 ...
by Edinburgh01
Mon Feb 15, 2021 10:48 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: The Offside Situation
Replies: 51
Views: 1641

Re: The Offside Situation

We get back to same perennial discussion. If the laws as they stand were actually applied consistently, a lot of current issues would evaporate and we would have a better game.