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by topofthemoon
Mon Sep 15, 2025 11:59 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: **OFFICIAL** Women's Rugby World Cup 2025 Thread
Replies: 1114
Views: 37477

Re: **OFFICIAL** Women's Rugby World Cup 2025 Thread

They have been saying in media that post WC scotland are going down to only 15 full time contracts. Very disappointing decision as I dont see how that is going to help scotland push on. They announce a game at murrayfield in 6 nations suggesting they want to take the womens game to next level yet t...
by topofthemoon
Thu Aug 28, 2025 11:15 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: **OFFICIAL** Women's Rugby World Cup 2025 Thread
Replies: 1114
Views: 37477

Re: **OFFICIAL** Women's Rugby World Cup 2025 Thread

Like I said - if Canada win a final against England they go top regardless of margin. As it stands NZ need a 16 point win in a final against England. That would get them the 6 point transfer/12 point swing. A smaller margin is only a 4 point transfer/8 point swing, but the gap is currently 9.02 poi...
by topofthemoon
Thu Aug 28, 2025 5:17 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: **OFFICIAL** Women's Rugby World Cup 2025 Thread
Replies: 1114
Views: 37477

Re: **OFFICIAL** Women's Rugby World Cup 2025 Thread

I dont really follow the rankings so I could be wrong but I was under the impression that while england are hosts, the world cup is considered neutral venues? England dont get to choose the home changing rooms or have their anthem second etc. They just happen to be the hosts. So I am not sure if th...
by topofthemoon
Thu Aug 28, 2025 5:01 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: **OFFICIAL** Women's Rugby World Cup 2025 Thread
Replies: 1114
Views: 37477

Re: **OFFICIAL** Women's Rugby World Cup 2025 Thread

I think if Canada were to narrowly win the semi and final, they'd top the rankings. NZ would be just short if its England in the final, so would need to win either the semi or final by more than 15. Assuming the tournament goes as predicted. Like I said - if Canada win a final against England they ...
by topofthemoon
Thu Aug 21, 2025 12:24 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: The Official Welsh Rugby Thread
Replies: 44835
Views: 3561593

Re: The Official Welsh Rugby Thread

That 'consultation' document is nothing of the sort really. 90 pages of justifying why the decision the WRU have essentially already taken is the correct one rather than a measured presentation of all options. It's also riddled with inconsistencies, errors and some very questionable numbers skewed t...
by topofthemoon
Thu Aug 07, 2025 12:24 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Wallabies vs B&I Lions - 3rd Test - OFFICIAL!!!!!
Replies: 1527
Views: 37850

Re: Wallabies vs B&I Lions - 3rd Test - OFFICIAL!!!!!

One for the refs (or any TMOs) on the bored. The TMO Protocol states that referrals for foul play "...may be reviewed at any stage of the game, since the last restart and before play restarts again" If the penalty that Lynagh kicked was considered the next restart then the window for a referral ende...
by topofthemoon
Wed Aug 06, 2025 11:40 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Wallabies vs B&I Lions - 3rd Test - OFFICIAL!!!!!
Replies: 1527
Views: 37850

Re: Wallabies vs B&I Lions - 3rd Test - OFFICIAL!!!!!

Ridiculously harsh sanction. What was Sheehan supposed to do exactly? Lynagh should learn not to poke his head up like a meerkat in the middle of a ruck. Hard to know how to respond to this. Whether you think there's mitigation due to Lynagh's actions is your own view but he didn't do anything part...
by topofthemoon
Wed Aug 06, 2025 5:32 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Prem Club Comp in England Financials
Replies: 49
Views: 5182

Re: Prem Club Comp in England Financials

Are they still repaying His Majesty's Revenue Commissioners for the Covid supports in those numbers? The loan is from the Department of Culture, Media and Sport rather than HMRC. Northampton still owed £8,196,000 at the 2024 year end, to be repaid by instalments by 2035. They've been repaying £188,...
by topofthemoon
Tue Aug 05, 2025 8:41 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Wallabies vs B&I Lions - 3rd Test - OFFICIAL!!!!!
Replies: 1527
Views: 37850

Re: Wallabies vs B&I Lions - 3rd Test - OFFICIAL!!!!!

I don't think any stat on such a thing as 'what's missed' will help you come to any great conclusions. If you slow all rucks down and zoom in you'll probably find a shite load you can cite, but it tends to be something that stands out or a team complains about. TMO's are working live in the team of...
by topofthemoon
Tue Aug 05, 2025 11:45 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Wallabies vs B&I Lions - 3rd Test - OFFICIAL!!!!!
Replies: 1527
Views: 37850

Re: Wallabies vs B&I Lions - 3rd Test - OFFICIAL!!!!!

Probably important to note that citings meet red card threshold, doesn’t mean they’d be red cards in a game, most of them wouldn’t be. Bit cheeky to get your stats that way by only comparing to actual red cards rather than in game red card threshold mitigated down to yellows. I'm not quite followin...
by topofthemoon
Tue Aug 05, 2025 12:47 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Wallabies vs B&I Lions - 3rd Test - OFFICIAL!!!!!
Replies: 1527
Views: 37850

Re: Wallabies vs B&I Lions - 3rd Test - OFFICIAL!!!!!

95% of stuff is caught. It's ridiculous to use the 5% to argue foul play should be allowed in game unless the ref sees it. 95%, eh? Using made up facts as evidence of something is an awesome way to make a point. In my extensive enough viewing, it's my opinion that 95% of red card offences are picke...
by topofthemoon
Tue Aug 05, 2025 12:26 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Wallabies vs B&I Lions - 3rd Test - OFFICIAL!!!!!
Replies: 1527
Views: 37850

Re: Wallabies vs B&I Lions - 3rd Test - OFFICIAL!!!!!

As for suspensions I think it's a bit silly talking about changing 'game application' when it happens in the last game at the end of the season. Sometimes that's just the way it goes, but I completely agree that no prior offence should be a one time deal. From then it's minimum stating point at the...
by topofthemoon
Mon Aug 04, 2025 11:58 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Wallabies vs B&I Lions - 3rd Test - OFFICIAL!!!!!
Replies: 1527
Views: 37850

Re: Wallabies vs B&I Lions - 3rd Test - OFFICIAL!!!!!

There was no reaction from any of the players (including Lynagh) or match officials to draw attention to the clear out at the time. Are you saying Lynagh should have reacted to draw the official's attention? That's a bit rich innit. I mean, beyond "reacting" by going off for a concussion and not re...
by topofthemoon
Mon Aug 04, 2025 9:42 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Wallabies vs B&I Lions - 3rd Test - OFFICIAL!!!!!
Replies: 1527
Views: 37850

Re: Wallabies vs B&I Lions - 3rd Test - OFFICIAL!!!!!

Just to clarify the on field timeline for the Sheehan clear out on Lynagh: 30.23 - Ball into scrum 31.29 - Sheehan clear out at 9th ruck in passage of play 31.58 - Penalty advantage for offside at 13th ruck 32.09 - Play whistled dead 33.22 - Lynagh kicks penalty 33.47 - Lynagh replaced just before k...
by topofthemoon
Mon Aug 04, 2025 5:05 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Wallabies vs B&I Lions - 3rd Test - OFFICIAL!!!!!
Replies: 1527
Views: 37850

Re: Wallabies vs B&I Lions - 3rd Test - OFFICIAL!!!!!

Got off lightly. Should have been a yellow at 32 mins upgraded to a red and then 4 weeks off. Glad it was not given as the whining northerners would have claimed that was why we won the game. Curry also should have a got a yellow in the 1st test, maybe 2? Jonkers should be put out to pasture. No. Y...
by topofthemoon
Mon Aug 04, 2025 3:43 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Wallabies vs B&I Lions - 3rd Test - OFFICIAL!!!!!
Replies: 1527
Views: 37850

Re: Wallabies vs B&I Lions - 3rd Test - OFFICIAL!!!!!

Just looking at the dates of the fixtures, I could see Sheahan featuring in round 2 at a push if Leinster wanted to be cheeky. Means a trip to SA so probably not but not beyond the realms of possibility. Leinster would usually have to provide his playing schedule so my assumption is they've said th...
by topofthemoon
Mon Aug 04, 2025 1:47 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Is it Time to scrap the Lions?
Replies: 240
Views: 26418

Re: Is it Time to scrap the Lions?

Those guys crying just realised how much money they are about to make. Ha, they'd play for nothing just to get on that tour, opportunity of a lifetime. They all actively choose it over their national team's tour, amateur and pro, and everyone knows it. Presumably the England lads would have been ea...
by topofthemoon
Mon Aug 04, 2025 1:31 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Is it Time to scrap the Lions?
Replies: 240
Views: 26418

Re: Is it Time to scrap the Lions?

Lions tours to Argentina need to be on the cards. It is possible if Lions tours are every THREE years rather than every four. 2025: Australia 2028: New Zealand 2031: South Africa 2034: Argentina 2037: Australia That still keeps the same 12-year turnaround time for the tour hosts as it is now. Give ...
by topofthemoon
Mon Aug 04, 2025 1:29 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Wallabies vs B&I Lions - 3rd Test - OFFICIAL!!!!!
Replies: 1527
Views: 37850

Re: Wallabies vs B&I Lions - 3rd Test - OFFICIAL!!!!!

3 week ban for Sheehan (4 weeks the headline but there's no way he's not going to get the week reduction for completing the coaching intervention). It would have been 2 but he denied it was even an act of foul play, let alone a red card, so didn't receive full mitigation. Clearly, defending his clea...
by topofthemoon
Mon Aug 04, 2025 1:11 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Wallabies vs B&I Lions - 3rd Test - OFFICIAL!!!!!
Replies: 1527
Views: 37850

Re: Wallabies vs B&I Lions - 3rd Test - OFFICIAL!!!!!

100%. I am really leaning towards the position of the TMO is silent unless the ref calls on them. Theres no perfect answer, but some sort of consistency would be nice. Foul play that the ref misses can be dealt with like the missed hit on Lynagh is being dealt with. I don't agree, it's now a team o...
by topofthemoon
Sun Aug 03, 2025 1:45 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Wallabies vs B&I Lions - 3rd Test - OFFICIAL!!!!!
Replies: 1527
Views: 37850

Re: Wallabies vs B&I Lions - 3rd Test - OFFICIAL!!!!!

Should previous record matter when you use your body as a missile and connect with the head of a defenceless player? For 2 players committing the same offence, I think the one who doesn't have a clean record should be getting a longer ban than a first offender. I agree but it's always bugged me tha...
by topofthemoon
Sun Aug 03, 2025 12:45 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Wallabies vs B&I Lions - 3rd Test - OFFICIAL!!!!!
Replies: 1527
Views: 37850

Re: Wallabies vs B&I Lions - 3rd Test - OFFICIAL!!!!!

You guys are kidding yourselves. It looks for all the money in the world that he sees Lynaghs head pop-up and he lines it up and smashes it. Now ... I can't quite buy that Sheehan is that f-cking stupid that he would gamble that Jonker will miss the call and not red card him just to cheap shot the ...
by topofthemoon
Sun Aug 03, 2025 12:21 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Wallabies vs B&I Lions - 3rd Test - OFFICIAL!!!!!
Replies: 1527
Views: 37850

Re: Wallabies vs B&I Lions - 3rd Test - OFFICIAL!!!!!

Hawk97 wrote: Sun Aug 03, 2025 11:02 am Should previous record matter when you use your body as a missile and connect with the head of a defenceless player?
For 2 players committing the same offence, I think the one who doesn't have a clean record should be getting a longer ban than a first offender.
by topofthemoon
Sun Aug 03, 2025 12:16 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Wallabies vs B&I Lions - 3rd Test - OFFICIAL!!!!!
Replies: 1527
Views: 37850

Re: Wallabies vs B&I Lions - 3rd Test - OFFICIAL!!!!!

No idea why TMO could not have could not have caught up with the ref at half time and told him I have found an incident that meets RC threshold and would like your team to review it. The time limit for foul play referrals from the TMO is the next restart in play. Lynagh was withdrawn 7 minutes befo...
by topofthemoon
Sun Aug 03, 2025 12:14 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Wallabies vs B&I Lions - 3rd Test - OFFICIAL!!!!!
Replies: 1527
Views: 37850

Re: Wallabies vs B&I Lions - 3rd Test - OFFICIAL!!!!!

He's a very clean player. Anyone have a clip? As I said earlier, think it happened in the bit of the game I missed. The shoulder was no where near the head. The idea he picked on a small player cleaning a ruck is so,stupid . So how do you explain the hia? Due to Sheehan's elbow hitting Lynagh's hea...
by topofthemoon
Sun Aug 03, 2025 2:41 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Wallabies vs B&I Lions - 3rd Test - OFFICIAL!!!!!
Replies: 1527
Views: 37850

Re: Wallabies vs B&I Lions - 3rd Test - OFFICIAL!!!!!

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by topofthemoon
Sat Aug 02, 2025 6:47 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Is it Time to scrap the Lions?
Replies: 240
Views: 26418

Re: Is it Time to scrap the Lions?

British and Irish Lions opponents by world ranking points at the time of each series: 94.48 - New Zealand 2017 (1st): 1-1 94.20 - South Africa 2021 (1st): 1-2 90.90 - New Zealand 2005 (1st): 0-3 89.46 - South Africa 2009 (1st): 1-2 86.87 - Australia 2013 (3rd): 2-1 82.08 - Australia 2025 (6th): 2-1 ...
by topofthemoon
Sat Aug 02, 2025 6:21 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Wallabies vs B&I Lions - 3rd Test - OFFICIAL!!!!!
Replies: 1527
Views: 37850

Re: Wallabies vs B&I Lions - 3rd Test - OFFICIAL!!!!!

From the Telegraph's rankings Bundee Aki A Farrell loyalty pick that completely backfired. Kept turning over possession and eventually gave Jorgensen a try on a plate. 2/10 Aki was sensational last week though. Was he? 2 good carries, one of which was thanks to a gap in the Aussie midfield defence ...
by topofthemoon
Fri Aug 01, 2025 10:51 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Wallabies vs B&I Lions - 3rd Test - OFFICIAL!!!!!
Replies: 1527
Views: 37850

Re: Wallabies vs B&I Lions - 3rd Test - OFFICIAL!!!!!

Presume that's setting up for in game issues. With no back three cover, Jones will end up on the wing if a back three player goes down. Poor finn, with Aki and fazbag outside him. So how we were set up for the match winning try which was the most cohesive attack of the game? Aki touched the ball on...
by topofthemoon
Fri Aug 01, 2025 4:48 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Prem Club Comp in England Financials
Replies: 49
Views: 5182

Re: Prem Club Comp in England Financials

Saints are fine provided we don't start spending money that we don't have - revenue and gross profit on the up, loans being repaid. A lot of the reported loss is actually an accounting artifact due to how CVC monies have been treated in the past There's no impact on the current year loss from how C...
by topofthemoon
Fri Aug 01, 2025 4:36 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Prem Club Comp in England Financials
Replies: 49
Views: 5182

Re: Prem Club Comp in England Financials

I’d not been aware of this but a quick search laid it out. Not a pretty picture. From rugypass: Prem Rugby clubs ranked by losses – figures supplied by Business Live: Saracens – £7.5m (22.7m) Sale Sharks – £7m (9.1m) Bristol – £4.8m (11.9) Bath – £3.6m (20.8m) Leicester – £3.5m (21m) Newcastle – £2...
by topofthemoon
Wed Jul 30, 2025 10:23 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Yep, Turunui at it again.
Replies: 220
Views: 12432

Re: Yep, Turunui at it again.

Just a little compromise and common sense. Did you read your own question? You asked if play on would be called 'most' or 'all' of the time.I thought your angle was most of the time it would be at least a PK. Did you read it? Whatever. Misunderstanding or badly worded on my part (?). I think I know...
by topofthemoon
Wed Jul 30, 2025 7:13 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Lions Lions Lions
Replies: 4369
Views: 366494

Re: Lions Lions Lions

I'd honestly start Bealham. I thought Furlong was toss, and Stuart barely better. Bealham worked his arse off in the warm-up games, and then Furlong got picked ahead of him on reputation for the tests. Furlong wasn't bad but definitely the sentiment pick, Bealham was the best on tour for me. I gues...
by topofthemoon
Wed Jul 30, 2025 1:31 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Yep, Turunui at it again.
Replies: 220
Views: 12432

Re: Yep, Turunui at it again.

Can I ask how those who are accusing Tizzano of flopping respond to the actual, quantifiable impact data? (My prediction is continued obfuscation and whataboutery.) “I just heard the end of it [Gilpin’s press conference] then because we’d just finished training, but talking about the instrumental m...
by topofthemoon
Wed Jul 30, 2025 1:29 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Yep, Turunui at it again.
Replies: 220
Views: 12432

Re: Yep, Turunui at it again.

Nah, it just means you’re a stupid, lying wit kant… :thumbup: Where's the lie? I had assumed he started - wrong, but not a lie. I don't care whether he started or not - Fact He's a forward - fact it was a physical game - fact he's a diving wit kant - fact If you're going to throw insults at least t...
by topofthemoon
Wed Jul 30, 2025 12:08 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Lions Lions Lions
Replies: 4369
Views: 366494

Re: Lions Lions Lions

I had a flashback yesterday evening to screaming at the TV when Aki got penalised at a ruck. He stepped through a formed ruck, with the ball still obviously in, and picked it up while looking at the referee. The referee must have said "leave it" 3 or 4 times, and Aki just continued to stare blankly...
by topofthemoon
Tue Jul 29, 2025 1:30 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Wallabies vs. B&I Lions - 2nd Test - OFFICIAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Replies: 2983
Views: 77746

Re: Wallabies vs. B&I Lions - 2nd Test - OFFICIAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wow. I just lost a lot of respect for that guy. Because that is just so disingenuous that it's brushing up against a barefaced lie. Yes, there's "some kind of innocuous head or neck contact" in rucks. We all know that. I also rewatched the game and there was not a single instance that was anything ...
by topofthemoon
Tue Jul 29, 2025 10:29 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Wallabies vs. B&I Lions - 2nd Test - OFFICIAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Replies: 2983
Views: 77746

Re: Wallabies vs. B&I Lions - 2nd Test - OFFICIAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You're the most obstinate f-ck on the board, so I'm sure you won't admit it's a stupid and dishonest take. But you could prove me wrong very easily. Just find a couple and post them here. Mog, you called Warburton disingenuous, a liar and said there wasn't any contact 'remotely similar' to the inci...
by topofthemoon
Tue Jul 29, 2025 10:28 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Wallabies vs. B&I Lions - 2nd Test - OFFICIAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Replies: 2983
Views: 77746

Re: Wallabies vs. B&I Lions - 2nd Test - OFFICIAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Warburton: I thought I would go back to the start of the match and watch every single ruck. I am not exaggerating when I say that there was some sort of head or neck contact at one in every two rucks. Wow. I just lost a lot of respect for that guy. Because that is just so disingenuous that it's bru...
by topofthemoon
Tue Jul 29, 2025 1:21 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Wallabies vs. B&I Lions - 2nd Test - OFFICIAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Replies: 2983
Views: 77746

Re: Wallabies vs. B&I Lions - 2nd Test - OFFICIAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ah fair, I may be wrong. I thought there was a slight change in the head contact interpretation in the lead up to the last world cup - in order to reduce the number of reds issued at the games showpiece event (or something like that anyway). Certainly before that clip I hadn't seen such obvious hea...