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Yeah it hasn't stopped it entirely obviously but I do feel it's not as common. Anyway either way a 5m scrum is way too big a reward for messing up an attack imo, if one doesn't like the drop out are there any other alternatives? If teams are held up in a maul in the field, they lose possession. It'...

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From a quick skim through lineups, I make BOD the oldest back to play in a Test for the Lions during the pro era. He was 34. Bundee Aki will be 35 by the time the tour of Australia begins.

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TheFrog wrote: ↑Sat Mar 16, 2024 10:58 pm This should be the table at the end of the tournament had refs done their jobs:

Ireland 20
Scotland 15
England 14
Italy 13
France 11
Wales 4

Fixed

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Is this not just a money thing? Wales had the same complaints in the past. Don't pay Premiership Rugby, don't get the players. No? I think there is a difference between clubs who have matches this weekend (Scotland haven't raised any issues with White returning to Toulon and Kinghorn to Toulouse as...

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Is this not just a money thing? Wales had the same complaints in the past. Don't pay Premiership Rugby, don't get the players. No? I think there is a difference between clubs who have matches this weekend (Scotland haven't raised any issues with White returning to Toulon and Kinghorn to Toulouse as...

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20.15The opposing team may not do anything to delay the kick or obstruct the kicker, including intentionally taking, throwing or kicking the ball out of reach of the team awarded the penalty. Sanction:Second penalty or free-kick, 10 metres in front of the original mark. The second penalty or free-k...

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Finn Russell's last 7 games v England:

2024 Murrayfield - Scotland win;
2023 Twickenham - Scotland win;
2022 Murrayfield - Scotland win;
2021 Twickenham - Scotland win;
2019 Twickeham - Scotland draw;
2018 Twickenham - Barbarians win;
2018 Murrayfield - Scotland win.

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There hasn't been a law change. What Dupont/Toulouse seem to have been able to persuade refs into after years of the Laws being the same is that only players who actually have to retreat behind an imaginary 10m line from where the ball lands from a kick are captured by Law 10.4c. Players who were a...

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Look at what is actually in the article ffs World Rugby will be sticking to its stance of not commenting publicly on specific officials' decisions You want special treatment for the Ref and TMO following protocols. But then the SRU did threaten to sue World Rugby if a game was cancelled due to a na...

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There hasn't been a law change. What Dupont/Toulouse seem to have been able to persuade refs into after years of the Laws being the same is that only players who actually have to retreat behind an imaginary 10m line from where the ball lands from a kick are captured by Law 10.4c. Players who were al...

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Transcript of the ref / TMO chat at the end of the game if anyone wants a read through. https://twitter.com/topofthemoonGW/status/1756784693242941800?t=L0TVVFqCwa1T62Q9vdHqLQ&s=19 One thing we can say definitively - the entirety of the on field (ref) and off field (TMO) processes have ended up comi...

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johnuknow wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2024 10:25 am Perhaps a silly question. Had the ref blown his whistle before the grounding. It might be that he called it held up first?

On the live footage, the whistle blows after Tuilagi stops moving. On the replays, Tuilagi is still moving when the ball comes off the foot.

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Transcript of the ref / TMO chat at the end of the game if anyone wants a read through. https://twitter.com/topofthemoonGW/status/1756784693242941800?t=L0TVVFqCwa1T62Q9vdHqLQ&s=19 One thing we can say definitively - the entirety of the on field (ref) and off field (TMO) processes have ended up comin...

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Wales looked good against Scotland in the second half, its not that clear cut. Scotland were absolutely knackered and completely capitulated. We had a decent 20min, but it was as much about them taking their foot off the gas as it was us breaking them down. Why were they knackered if Wales are so c...

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You need an eye test - as is clear in the footage, and as Nigel Owens said in commentary, he didn't touch Fickou's neck so there is no infringement. I still trust my eyes, old as they are, and not someone who is basically just promoting his blogs. The dangerous tackle law specifically mentions tack...

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The standing still thing would be solved if the previous kicker made some effort to chase up and bring his team onside, no? That don't want to though. They've got players to pressure max 10 metres away from where the ball has landed, forwards getting a rest in midfield and are keeping their kickers...

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Good defence by Italy in the end It was. Hint of a high shot on Casey (not that it's that difficult) but they've not given us anything easy. Hopefully it's the other way round this year and they finish the tournament stronger. Brex head into Casey's chest. Which I would still call as a dangerous ta...

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Given that Berry saw it held up, how could he have overruled himself given the evidence? Because it clearly is grounded. Haven't read the thread, am I being whooshed. You on the wind up? Can you say it was clearly grounded over the line - no of course you can’t. Berry was right beside it and said h...

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All players in front of the kick remain offside and.must retreat until played onside would solve a lot of it Fully agree, why they decided to change that is baffling. When and what did they change? There hasn't been a law change. What Dupont/Toulouse seem to have been able to persuade refs into aft...

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They got one in the first half of this match when Vander Merwe did a seat belt tackle on Fickou inches from the line saving a try, and then immediately stood up, never getting back on side, and intercepted the french SHs pass to an unmarked winger who only had to fall over the line to score. Any on...

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They got one in the first half of this match when Vander Merwe did a seat belt tackle on Fickou inches from the line saving a try, and then immediately stood up, never getting back on side, and intercepted the french SHs pass to an unmarked winger who only had to fall over the line to score. Any on...

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You have to retreat to 10m away from where ball lands as it is. I'm still confused as to what's suddenly changed other than the kicking team deciding not to put pressure on the receiving team. Dupont seems to get the credit for identifying a loophole that if you were 10 metres back from where the b...

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At least now France cant say the 95 SF non try was a try anymore Do Scotland ever get 50 50 calls? They got one in the first half of this match when Vander Merwe did a seat belt tackle on Fickou inches from the line saving a try, and then immediately stood up, never getting back on side, and interc...

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On that last phase of play every French back except Bielle-Biarrey was within 5m of the ball or further over on the near side. Scotland could have saved some heartache by moving the ball out the back.

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Berry could have stuck his head in the pile of bodies to actually see where the ball finished up. He could have communicated more clearly with his TMO eg "I've got the ball held up on the yellow boot of a French player" would have given the TMO more to work as to what the original decision was based...

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2 red card offences for Willemse with 2 bans imposed and he will end up only missing 2 Six Nations games.

https://media.sixnationsrugby.com/press ... -decision/

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The stats for test rugby say otherwise I'm afraid. Like I say, a shame Care to share those stats? According to OPTA, for major men's international and domestic games in 2023, 41% of teams who had a player sent off in the opening quarter still went on to win. https://twitter.com/OptaJonny/status/173...

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A team being down one man for 60 null and voids any top-end international match, no one should kid themselves. A real shame as this could have been a cracker It doesn't really. :thumbup: The stats for test rugby say otherwise I'm afraid. Like I say, a shame Care to share those stats? According to O...

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That penalty against Crowley for winning a contest in the air was a laughably poor decision. Although in fairness I think that was Whitehouse as opposed to Dickson. Followed by two TJ interventions that were equally as bad; firstly fingering POM for collapsing a maul when not only was it not clear ...

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By the way, I have agreed in the past that we were beginning to get too many RCs but the number seems to be reducing* and I don't think any acceptable law change keeps 15 on the field for France last night. *it seems to me in part due to player behaviour and in part due to tweaking application, bot...

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How does the last 16 work in the Challenge Cup 3 x 1st placed sides are seeded 1-3 3 x 2nd placed sides are seeded 4-6 2 best 3rd placed sides are seeded 7-8 4 x Champions Cup 5th placed sides are seeded 9-12 Lowest ranked 3rd placed side are seeded 13 3x 4th placed sides are seeded 14-16 1v16 2v15...

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Sidney Parade wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2024 8:38 pm All sa semi final quite possible. Will they be allowed have it at home in that case?

The rules just say that semi-finals will be held in Europe. You would think there might be some leeway but it could be to do with sponsors as well as the travel issue.

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RodneyRegis wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2024 8:23 pm What's the final ranking/knockouts pls?

https://twitter.com/topofthemoonGW/stat ... 8431687716

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Mizen Head wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2024 8:17 pm
CM11 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2024 8:16 pm What's the card tally for Exeter? I've lost track.
5 yellows and a red I think

Is that total tally for the game? 2 yellows for Bayonne and 3 yellows + red for Exeter.

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CM11 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2024 8:16 pm What's the card tally for Exeter? I've lost track.

3 yellows and a red.

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RodneyRegis wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2024 7:22 pm I assume top 4 (or team that beats them) gets home QF and same for semi.

The higher.seeded team from the pool stage has home advantage for R16 and QF, home country advantage for the SF.(except that both semi-finals must be in Europe so no home country advantage for South African sides).

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How does the last 16 work in the Challenge Cup 3 x 1st placed sides are seeded 1-3 3 x 2nd placed sides are seeded 4-6 2 best 3rd placed sides are seeded 7-8 4 x Champions Cup 5th placed sides are seeded 9-12 Lowest ranked 3rd placed side are seeded 13 3x 4th placed sides are seeded 14-16 1v16 2v15...

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Just swap Quins and Bath, it seems, if Bath don't get a bonus. Yeah just a straight swap on those 2 in that scenario. My predictions have a try BP for Bath on the basis that Toulouse conceded 3 tries against both Harlequins and Ulster; I think it will be an open (potentially even defences optional)...

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So, assuming: Toulouse beat Bath (with or without BP) Exeter beat Bayonne (, again with or without, I think) LAR beat Sale then it looks like: Toulouse v Racing Leinster v Leicester Saints v Munster Bordeaux v Saracens Exeter v Glasgow Bath v Lyon Bulls v LAR Stormers v Quins Despite it looking lik...

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If anyone fancies trying out a bunch of different permutations for who reaches the knockout stages, I've created a spreadsheet. Stick in your expected results for the final pool fixtures and it will update the tables and populate the Round of 16 based on the appropriate seedings. It accounts for the...

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