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by dpedin
Sat Dec 04, 2021 7:03 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans
Replies: 61014
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Re: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans

Lastly after I was discharged from hospital after PE I was given a oximeter to keep a track of my oxygen levels and to make sure they remained at the required level. GP would phone and ask what my levels were every couple of days after discharge until things settled down. “Every couple of days” :lo...
by dpedin
Wed Dec 01, 2021 7:32 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans
Replies: 61014
Views: 3357337

Re: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans

Lastly after I was discharged from hospital after PE I was given a oximeter to keep a track of my oxygen levels and to make sure they remained at the required level. GP would phone and ask what my levels were every couple of days after discharge until things settled down. “Every couple of days” :lo...
by dpedin
Wed Dec 01, 2021 7:28 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans
Replies: 61014
Views: 3357337

Re: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans

If poor people are dying because they can't see their GP then perhaps they should get better jobs. :shock: :shock: :shock: :lol: Agree! Lots of bullshit on here about GPs by numpties who know feck all and seem to think Dr Findlays Casebook is the current GP service. Few of examples how GPs are usin...
by dpedin
Wed Dec 01, 2021 12:07 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans
Replies: 61014
Views: 3357337

Re: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans

If poor people are dying because they can't see their GP then perhaps they should get better jobs. :shock: :shock: :shock: :lol: Agree! Lots of bullshit on here about GPs by numpties who know feck all and seem to think Dr Findlays Casebook is the current GP service. Few of examples how GPs are usin...
by dpedin
Mon Nov 29, 2021 3:44 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans
Replies: 61014
Views: 3357337

Re: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans

Numbers for flu used tend to also include pneumonia deaths Numbers for covid have definitely included pneumonia deaths you fool. Exactly! Both flu and covid may result in pneumonia as part of the cause of death but not necessarily the underlying cause of death. However not all pneumonias will have ...
by dpedin
Mon Nov 29, 2021 3:43 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans
Replies: 61014
Views: 3357337

Re: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans

Of course averages can be dangerous , however the absolute numbers do not lie In regard to the very few covid patients now being treated. As for GP’s , when I can be bothered I’ll do the same to those made up statistics as the ones you produced about case numbers and recent deaths where you were wr...
by dpedin
Mon Nov 29, 2021 3:43 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans
Replies: 61014
Views: 3357337

Re: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans

My case study is a reflection of the actual reality within which the NHS operates, not some idealistic, bombastic uneducated view of how the NHS runs that you obviously have. To resort to calling it 'excuses' demonstrates you have no feckin idea about the complexity of health systems and the challe...
by dpedin
Mon Nov 29, 2021 3:41 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans
Replies: 61014
Views: 3357337

Re: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans

Of course averages can be dangerous , however the absolute numbers do not lie In regard to the very few covid patients now being treated. As for GP’s , when I can be bothered I’ll do the same to those made up statistics as the ones you produced about case numbers and recent deaths where you were wr...
by dpedin
Mon Nov 29, 2021 3:37 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans
Replies: 61014
Views: 3357337

Re: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans

Numbers for flu used tend to also include pneumonia deaths Numbers for covid have definitely included pneumonia deaths you fool. Exactly! Both flu and covid may result in pneumonia as part of the cause of death but not necessarily the underlying cause of death. However not all pneumonias will have ...
by dpedin
Mon Nov 29, 2021 3:24 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans
Replies: 61014
Views: 3357337

Re: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans

Anyway, we’ve been pushed into a tightening of restrictions as Cases are proven to have stalled with the R below 1, deaths down to 50 a day (very low and falling), people really think that the steps aren’t planned? Very dangerous, some would say misleading, using one day's data - 7 day average for ...
by dpedin
Mon Nov 29, 2021 2:58 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans
Replies: 61014
Views: 3357337

Re: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans

Very dangerous, some would say misleading, using one day's data - 7 day average for UK is 121 deaths a day, about the same level as in mid October. We haven't been under a 7 day average of 100 deaths since late August! 7 day average for number of cases has been rising last few days not declining bu...
by dpedin
Sun Nov 28, 2021 9:59 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans
Replies: 61014
Views: 3357337

Re: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans

Anyway, we’ve been pushed into a tightening of restrictions as Cases are proven to have stalled with the R below 1, deaths down to 50 a day (very low and falling), people really think that the steps aren’t planned? Very dangerous, some would say misleading, using one day's data - 7 day average for ...
by dpedin
Sun Nov 28, 2021 9:39 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans
Replies: 61014
Views: 3357337

Re: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans

Anyway, we’ve been pushed into a tightening of restrictions as Cases are proven to have stalled with the R below 1, deaths down to 50 a day (very low and falling), people really think that the steps aren’t planned? I'm not going to comment on the politics as I don't live in the UK anymore and thing...
by dpedin
Sun Nov 28, 2021 9:27 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans
Replies: 61014
Views: 3357337

Re: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans

Anyway, we’ve been pushed into a tightening of restrictions as Cases are proven to have stalled with the R below 1, deaths down to 50 a day (very low and falling), people really think that the steps aren’t planned? Very dangerous, some would say misleading, using one day's data - 7 day average for ...
by dpedin
Fri Nov 26, 2021 11:41 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans
Replies: 61014
Views: 3357337

Re: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans

Just another CoVincidince Are you guys being deliberately stupid? Dozy - I am still waiting for a response to my question around the Yellow Cards - does the YC data show an increase in deaths as a result of vaccination and by how much? (Wee tip - this is not the same as quoting the 1,784 number whi...
by dpedin
Fri Nov 26, 2021 11:37 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans
Replies: 61014
Views: 3357337

Re: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans

And before any nutters on here start going off on one about ivermectin and Japan https://fullfact.org/health/japan-not-using-ivermectin-instead-vaccines-treat-covid-19/ Do you work for full-fact? They are a bunch of shiesters with no expertise in anything whatsoever, owned and controlled by faceboo...
by dpedin
Fri Nov 26, 2021 11:36 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans
Replies: 61014
Views: 3357337

Re: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans

Masks are 53% effective. Oh. https://www.poverty-action.org/sites/default/files/publications/Mask_Second_Stage_Paper_20211108.pdf.pdf What's your point? The research previously referred to was a wider systematic review and meta analysis of a number of research projects. Of course there will be vari...
by dpedin
Fri Nov 26, 2021 11:34 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans
Replies: 61014
Views: 3357337

Re: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans

Masks are 53% effective. Oh. https://www.poverty-action.org/sites/default/files/publications/Mask_Second_Stage_Paper_20211108.pdf.pdf What's your point? The research previously referred to was a wider systematic review and meta analysis of a number of research projects. Of course there will be vari...
by dpedin
Thu Nov 25, 2021 9:47 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans
Replies: 61014
Views: 3357337

Re: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans

And before any nutters on here start going off on one about ivermectin and Japan

https://fullfact.org/health/japan-not-u ... -covid-19/
by dpedin
Thu Nov 25, 2021 9:45 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans
Replies: 61014
Views: 3357337

Re: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans

A number of folk have quoted the UK Yellow Card data but fail to recognise this is just raw data or understand what this represents. What you need to do is work out what the prevalence of deaths and other illnesses would have been had there been no vaccinations and then compare the two. The Full Fa...
by dpedin
Thu Nov 25, 2021 9:40 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans
Replies: 61014
Views: 3357337

Re: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans

You do understand that the percentage that are unvaccinated is very small. The percentage that are vaccinated is very far away. omg Are average age of the people taken into account. Say if your vaccinated population is 50+ years old on average, and your unvaccinated population is 25 years old, you ...
by dpedin
Thu Nov 25, 2021 9:27 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans
Replies: 61014
Views: 3357337

Re: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans

Masks are 53% effective. Oh. https://www.poverty-action.org/sites/default/files/publications/Mask_Second_Stage_Paper_20211108.pdf.pdf What's your point? The research previously referred to was a wider systematic review and meta analysis of a number of research projects. Of course there will be vari...
by dpedin
Thu Nov 25, 2021 9:16 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans
Replies: 61014
Views: 3357337

Re: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans

A number of folk have quoted the UK Yellow Card data but fail to recognise this is just raw data or understand what this represents. What you need to do is work out what the prevalence of deaths and other illnesses would have been had there been no vaccinations and then compare the two. The Full Fa...
by dpedin
Thu Nov 25, 2021 6:16 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans
Replies: 61014
Views: 3357337

Re: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans

https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/vaccinated-english-adults-under-60 Vaccinated English adults under 60 are dying at twice the rate of unvaccinated people the same age And have been for six months. This chart may seem unbelievable or impossible, but it's correct, based on weekly data from the Bri...
by dpedin
Thu Nov 25, 2021 6:15 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans
Replies: 61014
Views: 3357337

Re: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans

In Scotland an investigation has been launched into an abnormal spike in newborn baby deaths. Doctors in France have warned against vaccinating healthy children. A study has suggested that Covid vaccines may only affect the menstrual cycles of women using contraception. A study has shown that Covid...
by dpedin
Thu Nov 25, 2021 11:40 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans
Replies: 61014
Views: 3357337

Re: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans

All the stuff that CM11 likes to not address in any detail A number of folk have quoted the UK Yellow Card data but fail to recognise this is just raw data or understand what this represents. What you need to do is work out what the prevalence of deaths and other illnesses would have been had there...
by dpedin
Thu Nov 25, 2021 11:00 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans
Replies: 61014
Views: 3357337

Re: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans

In Scotland an investigation has been launched into an abnormal spike in newborn baby deaths. Doctors in France have warned against vaccinating healthy children. A study has suggested that Covid vaccines may only affect the menstrual cycles of women using contraception. A study has shown that Covid...
by dpedin
Thu Nov 25, 2021 10:45 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans
Replies: 61014
Views: 3357337

Re: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans

What startling divergence in hospitalisations? The rise in hospitalisation rates has turned parabolic in Austria, Germany, Holland, Belgium and most of central Europe, decoupling suddenly from the UK’s relatively tame trajectory. This pattern is spreading south with a slight delay. Britain’s Covid ...
by dpedin
Thu Nov 25, 2021 10:43 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans
Replies: 61014
Views: 3357337

Re: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans

What startling divergence in hospitalisations? The rise in hospitalisation rates has turned parabolic in Austria, Germany, Holland, Belgium and most of central Europe, decoupling suddenly from the UK’s relatively tame trajectory. This pattern is spreading south with a slight delay. Britain’s Covid ...
by dpedin
Thu Nov 25, 2021 10:41 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans
Replies: 61014
Views: 3357337

Re: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans

Other countries have successfully managed to keep covid cases and community transmission lower than us using pretty simple PH approaches. This is not in doubt - see recent paper that showed wearing masks reduces transmission by c50%. We also know that when these PH mitigations have been lifted then...
by dpedin
Thu Nov 25, 2021 10:36 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans
Replies: 61014
Views: 3357337

Re: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans

In Scotland an investigation has been launched into an abnormal spike in newborn baby deaths. Doctors in France have warned against vaccinating healthy children. A study has suggested that Covid vaccines may only affect the menstrual cycles of women using contraception. A study has shown that Covid...
by dpedin
Tue Nov 23, 2021 10:12 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans
Replies: 61014
Views: 3357337

Re: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans

Surely a better strategy would have been to try and keep cases low until we got even more folk fully vaccinated and allowed more time for covid medications, already under development and going through testing, to come on stream? We seem to have allowed or implicitly accepted a large number of death...
by dpedin
Tue Nov 23, 2021 10:01 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans
Replies: 61014
Views: 3357337

Re: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans

Oh for crying out loud - how inane can you get! We didn't have vaccines during the lock down last winter so yes deaths were higher, we also didnt know what treatments worked then either, we have a far better understanding now. We also didnt fully understand the virus transmission routes then and th...
by dpedin
Tue Nov 23, 2021 9:33 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans
Replies: 61014
Views: 3357337

Re: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans

Other countries have successfully managed to keep covid cases and community transmission lower than us using pretty simple PH approaches. This is not in doubt - see recent paper that showed wearing masks reduces transmission by c50%. We also know that when these PH mitigations have been lifted then...
by dpedin
Tue Nov 23, 2021 5:44 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans
Replies: 61014
Views: 3357337

Re: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans

Surely a better strategy would have been to try and keep cases low until we got even more folk fully vaccinated and allowed more time for covid medications, already under development and going through testing, to come on stream? We seem to have allowed or implicitly accepted a large number of death...
by dpedin
Tue Nov 23, 2021 5:32 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans
Replies: 61014
Views: 3357337

Re: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans

As a very basic example, since June the UK has had 5m cases. Germany has yet to reach 2m in that time period. What the UK have managed to do is spread that evenly enough over those months. What might kill the likes of Germany is getting those cases all at once. Also, very few of the cases in UK hav...
by dpedin
Tue Nov 23, 2021 5:29 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans
Replies: 61014
Views: 3357337

Re: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans

I read it as 95.8% for those with at least one dose. I'm just going by what Bimbo said, and the title of the report. You have to remember that those with a single dose would be younger and would have had their dose more recently. And a fall to 89.8% for those having had two or more suggests what? Y...
by dpedin
Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:00 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans
Replies: 61014
Views: 3357337

Re: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans

From the Beeb, Can the UK avoid a Europe style return to lockdown? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-59378849 The logic - along with the benefit of ending restrictions that themselves cause harm to health - was that it was better to have the rebound in infection, the so-called exit wave, in the sum...
by dpedin
Tue Nov 23, 2021 11:55 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: The New Official Tory Cronyism and Sleaze and Racism thread
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Re: The New Official Tory Cronyism and Sleaze and Racism thread

C69 wrote: Tue Nov 23, 2021 11:50 am
Mick Mannock wrote: Tue Nov 23, 2021 11:25 am
C69 wrote: Tue Nov 23, 2021 11:16 am
Frodder wrote: Tue Nov 23, 2021 11:11 am For those who missed THE speech of the year

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-59381775
He is clearly not right atm.
Exhaustion?
Guilt?
Guilt over the social care Bill?
Badly hungover, even still pissed!