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Might have been originally Ketschuk (West Prussian/Polish). Ancestor arrived 1811, allegedly.

http://www.academia.edu/22401950/Polish ... r_families

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I'm sure Ireland can host a great world cup, and I'm also sure that they will do so one day soon.

Just for context, South Africa bid unsuccessfully for the 2011, 2015 and 2019 tournaments. Even for slow learners, we must assume that something was learned through the experience.

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As far as I can tell, the process of World Rugby (or RWCL) making a recommendation was first introduced for the 2015 and 2019 bids, decided simultaneously in 2009. The vote went with the recommendation in both cases (or is it maybe only one case?) So there is not much precedent, but what there is su...

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Apart from the obvious practicalities, even if it worked it wouldn't even fund anything after one generation.

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What Fleck needs is a good defence coach. Paul Treu fills in and he's full of enthusiasm but he's not a specialist and it's time for him to move sideways for a while. Coach the U21's perhaps. Many of the current problems date back to Nienaber leaving. Oom Gert recruited an outstanding attack coach f...

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Zebre are not pulling out. The current company is being dissolved and a newco formed. http://www.rugbyrama.fr/rugby/ligue-celtique-1/2010-2011/pro-12-les-zebres-ne-participeront-pas-au-prochain-championnat_sto6265243/story.shtml It's in French, but it says it's a pulling out. It's the same thing in...

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Sandstorm wrote:
sorCrer wrote:
Sandstorm wrote:How much in USD is the 45% tax bracket in SA?
About $9700 a month.
They're going after Elon Musk!!!

Nah. The 45% rate is a red herring and was only implemented this year, they will harvest more from the 39% and 41% marginal rates. Those start at US$3577 pm and US$4560 pm.

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I wasn't aware of that. I like him.

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I wouldn't go firing Fleck unless there is someone really top drawer to replace him. It should have been Eddie Jones or John Mitchell but for whatever reason those didn't happen. At least now he's got two seasons of experience, the playing style has changed for the better, and he did manage two home...

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I agree with the doc. They are not going the American way, at least not yet. If you aren't a SA tax resident now, and you don't submit an annual return, then you still don't have to. This appears to be targeted at contract workers who are SA resident but take up a temp contract away from home. Previ...

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How will joining the Pro14 change the Cheetahs financial position vs staying in SupeRugby? Considering that the Pro12 teams will get about £1.44m from tv monies, and assuming the SA sides will get the same, they should be on par with SR monies. An interesting aspect would be sponsorships as they co...

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I see the betting has already opened. Cheetahs are joint 4th favourites at 12/1 along with Ospreys, Ulster and Glasgow. If they match those teams (or even any two of them) then they will be very happy with themselves. The Kings are 8th favourites. I personally think both teams will have a near perfe...

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Are you all on drugs or just being paid by Toulon? He's 31, he's world class, still near his peak, any other country would find a place for him. Injuries happen, here's hoping he recovers well.

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Will be interesting to see how the two conferences are determined. Still, can't stand still, hopefully it's a success. Probably already been mentioned, and could be b/s but I read it was league placings from the prior season. It's also geographically divided. Each conference will have one South Afr...

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I dunno man. This looks like Bjorn Basson all over again. After the Bulls he went to Japan, many players stay in SR but play in Japan too. He didn't, I presume nobody wanted him. He got a few games with the Ospreys but no contract afaik. He hasn't played since turning out for Shoki in October last y...

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Morris has earned his spot for the rest of the series. I've always said so but the needs of the public and selectors are too high. They think an allrounder must bat like a top 5 and bowl like a top 4. Not so, that's why we have never filled the Kallis void. Let de Kock get his (ie. Kallis's) runs a...

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Dear me Sards, are the people at work giving you Monday grief about the Sharks losing again? Don't try to compensate on here, just ignore them.

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Trog, Have you seen this? https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2017-07-15-trainspotter-the-a-bomb-a-r2-billion-amnesty-package-for-zuma/#.WWx3A63MbBk The Daily Maverick is saying that business and political interests have raised R2 billion to be paid to Zuma in exchange for his resignation. Furt...

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Will England make any changes for the third Test? Will Woakes come in for Wood or will he come in for Dawson with Ali providing the sole spin option. I'm assuming Rabada will come in for Pretorius in the only change to the Protea lineup. I really hope the SA team stays with this structure. Morris a...

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Well quite, I hesitated before using KP as a source but it chimes with what Nasser said. He was talking about the second innings.

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our bowlers haven't bowled well in conditions that should really suit them. Any decent County pro would have expected to take some wickets. Something I heard Nasser say last night - that the bowlers will be grumpy after the batting collapsed and Root needs to talk to them. This is the same problem ...

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England, Australia and South Africa through to the semi finals. New Zealand and India play on Sat for the last spot. England should top the table as they only have WIndies left to play. Oz and SA meet to decide on who will be 2nd. I'm guessing England would prefer SA in the semi but are likely to h...

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I expect a huge pay-rise for the Cheetahs and Kings players. I think the potential for a currency boost is definitely there. :thumbup: This, and the TV rights will be much more (I think). I don't know man. Jensra and I discussed this earlier and I'm not convinced the Pro12 money will be ring fenced...

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I don't need to google this, I've travelled extensively. I see now you are talking about permits/visas instead of work permits which you started with. Nice try but not subtle enough. As Jensra said earlier, it's no different to travelling to Australia for a Super Rugby game. The only time you need a...

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OK Mister Not-a-lawyer, so you think the Springboks and All Blacks etc. need a work permit to play at Twickenham in November too. All the teams at the World Cup must have also needed work permits unless they were Irish, Italian or French. And South Africans who travel to the UK on business trips?? Y...

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That is amazing Jens. I might see Colin Beck and Hempies du Toit from time to time, I'll be sure to ask them about that game. Polo field, fm.

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These player will all have to satisfy UK and Ireland work conditions. Some euro, too, maybe. That will make them eligible to play for European/UK/Irish clubs. And these competitions will expose them to UK/Ireland/Europe. Expect these SA franchises to be stripped of human assets, in a short while. A...

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Jens, they are indeed very positive. It's almost as if they have a signed deal already. These are interesting times. There is a wonderful irony in Jones, Kebble and Thomson leaving the Stormers for Glasgow, so that they can play the Cheetahs again. I am quite sure that Oom Harold Verster's pockets ...

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Jens, he made that statement without even referencing Pro12. While we can take the phrase "Money that is there for Super Rugby must be used for Super Rugby." as literal, it must be balanced with what he said immediately afterwards - "The finer detail of that, if I say that it will be career-limiting...

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It does lift the revenue by keeping the SANZAAR money and adding the Pro12 income, but on the other hand we still have to pay the salaries of 6 fully professional squads. Australia, Wales and Ireland will be paying four each. New Zealand five. Just saying. SARU is changing the funding of unions and...

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It does lift the revenue by keeping the SANZAAR money and adding the Pro12 income, but on the other hand we still have to pay the salaries of 6 fully professional squads. Australia, Wales and Ireland will be paying four each. New Zealand five. Just saying.

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Jens, they are indeed very positive. It's almost as if they have a signed deal already. These are interesting times.

There is a wonderful irony in Jones, Kebble and Thomson leaving the Stormers for Glasgow, so that they can play the Cheetahs again.

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Didn't we know this was official 3 months ago? SR had to do something, but it's a shame we won't have the Cheetahs there as they appear to be a popular team among non-SA fans. Still, I think exciting this await them next year in Pro12. And I for one look forward to the day that all South African te...

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Notshe and van Dyk have both got knee injuries.

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The Sunwolves also play with two 95/96 kg centres so we will see if Damian has changed to the passing game that the Stormers backs now play. Mostly I want to see the defence improved but I don't expect the Sunwolves to test that. I don't think there is another fit loosehead so Kitshoff plays regardl...

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Stormers 15 Dillyn Leyds, 14 Cheslin Kolbe, 13 EW Viljoen, 12 Damian de Allende, 11 Seabelo Senatla, 10 Damian Willemse, 9 Jano Vermaak, 8 Nizaam Carr, 7 Juarno Augustus, 6 Siya Kolisi (captain), 5 Pieter-Steph du Toit, 4 Eben Etzebeth, 3 Frans Malherbe, 2 Bongi Mbonambi, 1 JC Janse van Rensburg Sub...

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I'm still at a loss as to what exactly Europe (and others) need to protect themselves from. We managed to negotiate the population explosions and subsequent levelling-off in China, the rest of East Asia, the Indian sub continent and Latin America. Each of those was the bogey man of it's time, I part...

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The ref had a pretty poor day all round. The double red just capped it off.

Did he refer the foul play because of the AR or was it just because of Francois Venter? His bosses won't like it if it's the latter.

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Where are you getting those prices? Touts I think, also known as Viagogo. I think only the PE prices have been announced so far - R75 to R500 (excluding the "lounge"). I suspect Newlands will be more, but not by much. R750 to R850 for the best would be my guess. Still the cheapest of the major rugby...

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I was wondering about this myself. These are probably the smallest and weakest teams in SA in terms of support, playing numbers and financial clout. Any idea how much they added to the Soup TV deal when they joined? That question can't really be answered. First of all there is no Soup TV deal, the ...

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