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- Tue Apr 16, 2024 7:52 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
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Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Professionalism. Gotta love it. Also, importantly, the need to accurately value tradition within the system. I'm far from sure that's been done. If it had been, then Munster, for example, would likely be based out of Cork. Demographics and potential upside vs tradition. TP would have been modernize...
- Tue Apr 16, 2024 6:52 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: Jordie Barrett to Leinster !
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Re: Jordie Barrett to Leinster !
The problem is once the 6 Nations ends, so does Welsh rugby interest which is a shame as they're a proud people and bring so much colour plus enthusiasm. I think if they applied that to club and really got behind this league they could attract more players like Barrett and Snyman. Certainly a step ...
- Tue Apr 16, 2024 2:59 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
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- Tue Apr 16, 2024 2:35 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
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Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
I didn't assume anything, I read what you wrote. And I stand by the exact statement I wrote. My position hasn't changed. You have interpreted it the way you wanted to score some virtual Internet points. Go you. I stand by my factual reading of the words you wrote, in the order and context you wrote...
- Tue Apr 16, 2024 2:11 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: Jordie Barrett to Leinster !
- Replies: 116
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Re: Jordie Barrett to Leinster !
I'm sure he does want a break and a change of scenery will probably do him good. Just make sure he comes back in one piece. No real idea on his salary but should imagine as a key AB it would be pretty good. Indeed. So not a cash grab. I am pretty sure he will make more from 6 months with Leinster t...
- Tue Apr 16, 2024 12:42 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
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This opportunity with no caveats is you saying there was an equal opportunity, you subsequently said it isn't an identical, meaning equal, opportunity. So you've either changed your position, or you are refusing to acknowledge you have changed position. I was taking the more positive reading, but i...
- Tue Apr 16, 2024 12:28 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
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Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Earl/Winnie, like I said, I'm ignorant of the situation in Ulster schools and not pretending to know the answer, nor will I pontificate about what should be done. I'm just somewhat surprised that something which was, to me, as trivial as having overseas lads involved in coaching, was worth remarkin...
- Tue Apr 16, 2024 12:26 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
- Replies: 527746
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Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Of course that isn't what you initially said, so appreciate you acknowledging you were wrong. Unlike you, but welcome. Munster had this opportunity in the 00s but screwed up their youth development and never capitalised on it. :? This opportunity with no caveats is you saying there was an equal opp...
- Tue Apr 16, 2024 11:44 am
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
- Replies: 527746
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Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Nah that point about AOC is bullshit He is a cancer on this place If you haven't noticed the increased negativity towards AOC by some posters, then you're not paying attention. You are so hypocritical too, btw. Getting in a tizzy when I (in bad taste) jokingly played the man but you've no problem c...
- Tue Apr 16, 2024 11:33 am
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
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You are a moron at times you really are No wonder URH put you on ignore, to be honest the whole bored could be better if everyone did and we didnt get to see your cancerous shite Ah Winnie. That's one of the least offensive posts I've ever read on PR, and doesn't warrant that level of vitriol in re...
- Tue Apr 16, 2024 11:30 am
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
- Replies: 527746
- Views: 28714168
Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
The way some of the Ulster lads talk about players from other provinces when they're not in form or fading highlights the problem. AOC was heralded as more Ulster than Leinster when he was putting in a decent shift but as he's faded he's got way more abuse than an Ulster born player would. The iden...
- Tue Apr 16, 2024 11:17 am
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
- Replies: 527746
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Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
The way some of the Ulster lads talk about players from other provinces when they're not in form or fading highlights the problem. AOC was heralded as more Ulster than Leinster when he was putting in a decent shift but as he's faded he's got way more abuse than an Ulster born player would. The ident...
- Tue Apr 16, 2024 11:10 am
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: Jordie Barrett to Leinster !
- Replies: 116
- Views: 2805
Re: Jordie Barrett to Leinster !
Agreed but the way it's written makes it sound like its the principle reason he is going.....when I think we can all agree it's not :) The whole thing reads like him wanting a break. As I said on our thread, closest a pro can get to a backpacking holiday. What's his NZ salary likely to be? Is it re...
- Tue Apr 16, 2024 11:09 am
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
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Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
I know what opportunity you are talking about. The latter part was very similar and wasted I agree (as well as the off the field failings, some terrible coaching appointments too), but the ability to set up "a conveyor belt" is for several reasons not the same in the other provinces compared to mod...
- Tue Apr 16, 2024 10:04 am
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
- Replies: 527746
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I must have missed the IRFU solving all our organisational problems in the 00s and sourcing coaches and administrative staff for us.
- Tue Apr 16, 2024 9:59 am
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: Jordie Barrett to Leinster !
- Replies: 116
- Views: 2805
Re: Jordie Barrett to Leinster !
He's hardly going to say well it's going to be a nice bit of wedge in the back pocket. I still don’t get it? They have a really strong link to Ireland having lived there as kids. Beauden played U12 Gaelic for Meath. I’ve heard them all talk of loving their time there and wanting to get back to visi...
- Tue Apr 16, 2024 9:58 am
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: Jordie Barrett to Leinster !
- Replies: 116
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Re: Jordie Barrett to Leinster !
Leinster are the only province to have kiwi coaches in underage structures? We know there's an advantage but it's not insurmountable. Pretty much none of the stars of the latest u20 side are from Leinster unless you count Murphy, who looked like a step down on recent u20 FHs. Leinster also tapped in...
- Tue Apr 16, 2024 9:42 am
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: Jordie Barrett to Leinster !
- Replies: 116
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Re: Jordie Barrett to Leinster !
If he was doing it for the money, he'd have gone to France and probably gotten twice his alleged salary.
- Tue Apr 16, 2024 9:27 am
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
- Replies: 527746
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Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Let's be fair if you don't win the double next year it must be called our as a massive choke. Because we have Barrett? How do you think he massively improves the squad? Leinster are a top side, no doubt, but we're not unbeatable. As we've sadly found out the last few years. Barrett and Snyman, and ...
- Tue Apr 16, 2024 9:12 am
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: Official Golf Thread
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Re: Official Golf Thread
I wouldn't blame him for selling out at this stage. He tried.
- Tue Apr 16, 2024 9:10 am
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
- Replies: 527746
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Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
I know it's part of the problem, Earl. Which is why I said it was the primary area that needed fixing.
- Tue Apr 16, 2024 9:05 am
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: Jordie Barrett to Leinster !
- Replies: 116
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Re: Jordie Barrett to Leinster !
Dai hasn't a clue about our financial model and structures. Best just ignore him.
- Tue Apr 16, 2024 9:04 am
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
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Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
And don't let anyone say we don't take the URC seriously anymore! Let's be fair if you don't win the double next year it must be called our as a massive choke. Because we have Barrett? How do you think he massively improves the squad? Leinster are a top side, no doubt, but we're not unbeatable. As ...
- Tue Apr 16, 2024 9:02 am
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
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Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Connacht and Ulster being forced to trim their squads then seeing Leinster spunk a quarter of a million on a backpacker shows how broken the system is Maybe dont spunk more than half a million on a prop who wants to leave after 10 mins and then you can complain about what we do The lads had Piatau ...
- Tue Apr 16, 2024 9:00 am
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
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And don't let anyone say we don't take the URC seriously anymore! It’s alright Very shortly no one will take the URC seriously And when they saffers see that it come down to one game v Leinster every year they will fudge off too Yup, it must be difficult seeing us win the URC every year. Oh. Wait. ...
- Tue Apr 16, 2024 8:59 am
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
- Replies: 527746
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Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
A draft is a nonsense, the provincial identity is important. What needs changed is that the IRFU need to improve the other provinces, not just let them stagnate and regress while Leinster continue to be a European powerhouse and provide 20+ players to national squads. That should be additional fund...
- Tue Apr 16, 2024 8:56 am
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
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And don't let anyone say we don't take the URC seriously anymore!
- Tue Apr 16, 2024 8:48 am
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
- Replies: 527746
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Also, the way the system works is that internationals in squads give extra leeway for bigger squads so it'd be a bit stupid to ask Leinster to trim the squad as our international contingent increases. In a year or two, we might, for example, find TOT and Wilson in the Irish 23 and Ulster will get th...
- Tue Apr 16, 2024 8:34 am
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
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Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Munster don't have any problems selling tickets for exhibition matches involving 2nd/3rd choice players (must be really shit players according to this thread). Ulster have a set of outside backs they have continually misused for years. But they've actually started developing more than a couple of g...
- Tue Apr 16, 2024 8:20 am
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
- Replies: 527746
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Munster don't have any problems selling tickets for exhibition matches involving 2nd/3rd choice players (must be really shit players according to this thread). Ulster have a set of outside backs they have continually misused for years. But they've actually started developing more than a couple of go...
- Mon Apr 15, 2024 10:40 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
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Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Genuine question - several posters have hinted at or suggested loans etc How might that work? What players come under consideration? Does every province have a list of players who are available for loan? How does the 'home' province benefit? Likewise the 'away'. What is there to incentivise the pla...
- Mon Apr 15, 2024 9:15 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
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This is a lot of kerfuffle over a six month signing. Sounds like Barrett wanted a break and was willing to take less than he could get to have a short stint with us. It doesn't massively change much, it's not like he's the missing link.
- Mon Apr 15, 2024 9:12 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
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Fardy wasn't half bad.You have enjoyed plenty of imports, both Synman and Barrett are the first high profile ones for Leinster since Brad Thorn and Isa.
And do you mean post retirement Isa? Because original Isa wasn't a big signing.
- Mon Apr 15, 2024 8:52 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: Jordie Barrett to Leinster !
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Re: Jordie Barrett to Leinster !
all that's missing is one of those huge saffa locks Synman ain't exactly small. He looks very small if you are on the pitch and looking at him in the stands. That’s where he is on most match days isn’t he? :lol: :thumbup: We've already taken one sicknote SA lock from Munster and gotten plenty out o...
- Mon Apr 15, 2024 8:48 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
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Disingenuous to assert we have not made moves to address appalling lack of talent coming through. We have. I'll accept it was done far too late, but it is being done. However it is where they are coming though from, and both quantity and quality of the raw material provided which remains the crux o...
- Mon Apr 15, 2024 8:39 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
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But the opportunity I was talking about was setting up a conveyor belt via their youth structures with the luxury of a decent squad to introduce the players without rushing them. I know what opportunity you are talking about. The latter part was very similar and wasted I agree (as well as the off t...
- Mon Apr 15, 2024 8:20 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
- Replies: 527746
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Munster didn't do enough I agree, and the lack of professionalism in certain things was incredibly evident for a long time. But they never had "this opportunity". You had a rake of central contracts and spare cash for top quality NIQs. Have you already forgotten the list of NIQs you signed? But the...
- Mon Apr 15, 2024 8:17 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
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Nooooooo Sats you are saying you are a bandwagon fan and only started supporting when we started winning No, I said I supported all the provinces before the league started. I'd have only ever gone to Leinster games, was a season ticket holder from the start and was primarily a Leinster fan but ther...
- Mon Apr 15, 2024 8:09 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: Jordie Barrett to Leinster !
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Re: Jordie Barrett to Leinster !
As I pointed out on our thread, if the rumoured salary is correct, we're probably making a net saving once we lose Ngatai.
- Mon Apr 15, 2024 8:08 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
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I think this kind of signing isn’t an issue if there a redirection of some younger players to fill problem spots in other provinces. Even as a short term basis. Season long loan for tector up north? Osborne or Boyle head down south. Connacht haemorrhaging players. But every indication suggests this...