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by CM11
Tue Mar 19, 2024 9:54 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby
Replies: 145269
Views: 7815401

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

And again, this final report will end with his exoneration, something you seem to be ignoring. If there's more to it on the accusers part, they were still wrong and he'd done nothing wrong.
by CM11
Tue Mar 19, 2024 9:52 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby
Replies: 145269
Views: 7815401

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

The DPP make decisions based on the threshold for a criminal prosecution- they weigh up the nature of the crime, the resources required to bring it to trial, and the likely result at trial - they routinely decline to prosecute people for all sorts of crime. It doesn’t mean that person did nothing w...
by CM11
Tue Mar 19, 2024 9:34 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby
Replies: 145269
Views: 7815401

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

That’s why I said I would wait for the full report because something doesn’t add up with the whole story The DPP found that there was no case to answer. The inquiry exonerated him of any wrongdoing. What more do you want? The DPP make decisions based on the threshold for a criminal prosecution- the...
by CM11
Tue Mar 19, 2024 8:48 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Replies: 524554
Views: 28404482

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Definitely should be rotating where we have depth and the drop off is not huge. Our quick ruck, high intensity attacking game game requires huge amounts of energy so lads well into their 30s are bound to feel it if they play too much. :? We were playing for a championship. You play your first choic...
by CM11
Mon Mar 18, 2024 9:25 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby
Replies: 145269
Views: 7815401

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

The conclusion of the report will be exoneration though, Duff. You think it's reasonable that it takes 4 years in total and nearly 3 years after DPP decided there was no criminal act to resolve the case? Even if he was guilty as hell? No of course not, I couldn’t have made that clearer. :thumbup:
by CM11
Mon Mar 18, 2024 7:56 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby
Replies: 145269
Views: 7815401

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

The conclusion of the report will be exoneration though, Duff.

You think it's reasonable that it takes 4 years in total and nearly 3 years after DPP decided there was no criminal act to resolve the case? Even if he was guilty as hell?
by CM11
Mon Mar 18, 2024 7:01 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby
Replies: 145269
Views: 7815401

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Was it policing at all though. And I’m not being a prick here he sounds like a good man trying to help a friend out but why are police even getting involved in stuff like this, it’s more like social work. And just to reiterate I agree the disciplinary process seems to have been a massive overreacti...
by CM11
Mon Mar 18, 2024 6:44 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby
Replies: 145269
Views: 7815401

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

The whole point of the Nordie Commissioner was too stamp out any laxness in the Gardaí. That includes stuff like this. Ah come on. This was good community policing. Was it policing at all though. And I’m not being a prick here he sounds like a good man trying to help a friend out but why are police...
by CM11
Mon Mar 18, 2024 6:40 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby
Replies: 145269
Views: 7815401

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

The whole point of the Nordie Commissioner was too stamp out any laxness in the Gardaí. That includes stuff like this. No point in people thinking you’re a gobshite when you’re willing to prove the fact. If it needs to be stamped out why was he cleared of all wrongdoing? He wasn’t cleared at all, t...
by CM11
Mon Mar 18, 2024 3:37 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Gregor Townsend
Replies: 99
Views: 2066

Re: Gregor Townsend

I think the problem is looking at this as a gripe. The point is that Scotland won't make the next step up without better grassroots. It's not rocket science. Whether that's achievable, I don't know. You're point on grassroots is valid, and I think universally shared. We're all screaming for the SRU...
by CM11
Mon Mar 18, 2024 3:01 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Replies: 524554
Views: 28404482

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Ehh, no major clangers from Larmour. Have seen this posited a few times now. He had one egregious drop under SFA pressure. Call me picky, but... ...no thanks. Ran sidewards at the start putting us under pressure (nearly got counterrucked off the ball). His kicking is also not good enough for a 15. ...
by CM11
Mon Mar 18, 2024 2:57 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Gregor Townsend
Replies: 99
Views: 2066

Re: Gregor Townsend

I think the problem is looking at this as a gripe.

The point is that Scotland won't make the next step up without better grassroots. It's not rocket science.

Whether that's achievable, I don't know.
by CM11
Mon Mar 18, 2024 2:40 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Replies: 524554
Views: 28404482

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

It was his first start for Ireland in 3 years and has 3 starts in the position in that period. He did absolutely fine. Do I really need to make a list of players who have dropped a ball under little pressure? Hint, Keenan will be on the list. He made the offload for Doris's half break and the one th...
by CM11
Mon Mar 18, 2024 12:45 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby
Replies: 145269
Views: 7815401

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

The whole point of the Nordie Commissioner was too stamp out any laxness in the Gardaí. That includes stuff like this. Ah come on. This was good community policing. But even if you accept that it needed an official review, it didn't need his house being raided, marching to the old man's house and a...
by CM11
Mon Mar 18, 2024 12:11 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: The Official and ONLY Ireland v Scotland Match thread
Replies: 856
Views: 9911

Re: The Official and ONLY Ireland v Scotland Match thread

Sidney Parade wrote: Mon Mar 18, 2024 8:11 am Jgp also has a lot more experience at wing at a high level. Perhaps that time looking at the game from the distance gave him an appreciation of the benefit of good sh decision making
Wut?

What high level wing experience?
by CM11
Mon Mar 18, 2024 12:09 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby
Replies: 145269
Views: 7815401

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

And therein lies the problem, people assuming that there’s more to the story when, from all reports, there isn’t. An elderly man’s bike was in for repair when lockdown started. The local Garda gave him the lend of a bike, that had been unclaimed for a number of years, on the condition that he retur...
by CM11
Mon Mar 18, 2024 12:03 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Gregor Townsend
Replies: 99
Views: 2066

Re: Gregor Townsend

Let's not start this again. We all know that the double standards applied in this debate are skewed. And I don't recall a single argument where someone said, "ye Ken what, you've changed ma mind!" at the end of it. So you think Ireland and Scotland have equal reliance on imported players both at na...
by CM11
Mon Mar 18, 2024 11:44 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Gregor Townsend
Replies: 99
Views: 2066

Re: Gregor Townsend

A good few of those were 2nd places on points diff and contained a few triple crowns also. Scotland have a serious issue in that they rely on players developing elsewhere and produce precious little themselves That is myth. The Irish just won with 3 Kiwis in their backline but no one questions them...
by CM11
Mon Mar 18, 2024 12:40 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Gregor Townsend
Replies: 99
Views: 2066

Re: Gregor Townsend

Scotland’s Eddie O’Sullivan. Stabilised and improved a mess but couldn’t make a breakthrough. The Scots real problem is they have no Declan Kidney ready to take over and bring them to the next level EOS and the IRFU fcked over Garland, the first Irish coach in almost forever to beat France and Engl...
by CM11
Sun Mar 17, 2024 11:09 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Replies: 524554
Views: 28404482

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Personally I think Larmour looked like he was really nervous. Looked closer to his 1st cap than his 32nd.

Tbf, the whole team looked nervous so he wasn't helped much there by the first team.
by CM11
Sun Mar 17, 2024 10:53 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Gregor Townsend
Replies: 99
Views: 2066

Re: Gregor Townsend

Scotland’s Eddie O’Sullivan. Stabilised and improved a mess but couldn’t make a breakthrough. The Scots real problem is they have no Declan Kidney ready to take over and bring them to the next level EOS went 3rd, 2nd, 2nd, 3rd, 2nd before the wheels came off. Townsend would bite your arm off for th...
by CM11
Sun Mar 17, 2024 9:52 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Replies: 524554
Views: 28404482

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

How did people feel Larmour did? I thought he played as expected. He's 5th(?) choice in the back three, and is not a FB. Even Leinster only select him there as a break glass option in lower profile games. He was drafted in to start at FB in a 6N decider, having not been in the frame for a serious I...
by CM11
Sun Mar 17, 2024 9:44 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: The Official and ONLY Ireland v Scotland Match thread
Replies: 856
Views: 9911

Re: The Official and ONLY Ireland v Scotland Match thread

True but often it makes no difference. Luke McGrath was probably the best scrumhalf i remember from Irish u20's in the last decade or so but he plateaued despite all the experience he's gotten at senior level. It's very hard to fix halfbacks, imo, they kinda are who they are, within reason. McGrath...
by CM11
Sun Mar 17, 2024 9:41 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Replies: 524554
Views: 28404482

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

France England was brilliant, but the state of the caterpillar rucks in that game! Maybe I just have to accept them as it must be hard to police. They didn't really have a detrimental effect on the game tbf It's incredibly easy to police. Just apply the very simple use it law. Refs should do that t...
by CM11
Sun Mar 17, 2024 7:26 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: The Official and ONLY Ireland v Scotland Match thread
Replies: 856
Views: 9911

Re: The Official and ONLY Ireland v Scotland Match thread

Well done for illustrating my point perfectly lads. :lol: Not trying to have a go Less you than the other two. It was the pile on that was illustrating the point. I think this place is shit compared to 10 years ago. Most of the good posters have either left or post irregularly. There's still enough...
by CM11
Sun Mar 17, 2024 6:36 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Replies: 524554
Views: 28404482

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

We still used 32 players, I think it was. Beat Italy convincingly with starts for Bealham, Baird, Casey and McCloskey. Conan and Ryan also started from outside the current first choice 15. McCarthy, Nash and Crowley all bedded in. Larmour and Frawley also got starts. Harry Byrne got a bit of experie...
by CM11
Sun Mar 17, 2024 6:03 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Replies: 524554
Views: 28404482

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

:lol:
by CM11
Sun Mar 17, 2024 6:02 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: The Official and ONLY Ireland v Scotland Match thread
Replies: 856
Views: 9911

Re: The Official and ONLY Ireland v Scotland Match thread

I haven't given up on him, just think we need to realistic about how good he could get tbh. Oh I'm with you on that. I'm not sure he'll make it but either way we have to give him more experience until another option comes along. True but often it makes no difference. Luke McGrath was probably the b...
by CM11
Sun Mar 17, 2024 5:39 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: The Official and ONLY Ireland v Scotland Match thread
Replies: 856
Views: 9911

Re: The Official and ONLY Ireland v Scotland Match thread

How often do we see established professionals improve their decision making though? I've seen players like Charlie Hodgson lose faith in their decision making and get worse, not sure it's as easy to improve. Murray had a massive improvement on the 2013 Lions tour, having had the luxury of two years...
by CM11
Sun Mar 17, 2024 5:14 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Replies: 524554
Views: 28404482

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Floppykid wrote: Sun Mar 17, 2024 4:51 pm France England was brilliant, but the state of the caterpillar rucks in that game! Maybe I just have to accept them as it must be hard to police. They didn't really have a detrimental effect on the game tbf
It's incredibly easy to police. Just apply the very simple use it law.
by CM11
Sun Mar 17, 2024 4:15 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Replies: 524554
Views: 28404482

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Reading the UK Sunday Times and it is very much England are back and Ireland are a fading star lucky to have crawled their way to the title. Definite whiff of bitterness. The BBC Sports page updated their 6 Nations table at 10:44am, the morning after the the tournament finished, to show next years ...
by CM11
Sun Mar 17, 2024 4:07 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: The Official and ONLY Ireland v Scotland Match thread
Replies: 856
Views: 9911

Re: The Official and ONLY Ireland v Scotland Match thread

Casey is like that tbf. Just needs to improve his decision making. How often do we see established professionals improve their decision making though? I've seen players like Charlie Hodgson lose faith in their decision making and get worse, not sure it's as easy to improve. Murray had a massive imp...
by CM11
Sun Mar 17, 2024 3:34 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Replies: 524554
Views: 28404482

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Rock easy winners in the end.

Smyth definitely one to watch.
by CM11
Sun Mar 17, 2024 3:30 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Replies: 524554
Views: 28404482

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

He had two lovely passes and a very good offload (think it was the one for the Doris half break when he gave the awful pass to POM). Yep, was surprised by the quality of a couple of his passes. He was largely fine, there were fair amount of positive contributions contrasted against the one big knoc...
by CM11
Sun Mar 17, 2024 3:25 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Replies: 524554
Views: 28404482

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

earl the beaver wrote: Sun Mar 17, 2024 3:21 pm
CM11 wrote: Sun Mar 17, 2024 2:19 pm POM now out on his own with 5 titles as first choice?

Possibly never be overtaken.
Doris is 25 with 2 already, looks set to be a mainstay for another 8 years I would say, could match it.
Well I did say overtake.

Add Sheahan too, I guess.

I'll be delighted if those two can get 3 more.
by CM11
Sun Mar 17, 2024 2:39 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Replies: 524554
Views: 28404482

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Going to be a long day for Michaels.
by CM11
Sun Mar 17, 2024 2:36 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: The Official and ONLY Ireland v Scotland Match thread
Replies: 856
Views: 9911

Re: The Official and ONLY Ireland v Scotland Match thread

Well done for illustrating my point perfectly lads. :lol:
by CM11
Sun Mar 17, 2024 2:34 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Replies: 524554
Views: 28404482

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

He passed as much as he ran and passed more than any other outside back. A couple of his passes led to half breaks. He was absolutely grand. He is the most prejudged player in the squad by a mile. If he had butchered the try the way Nash did people would have been lining up to shoot him. His ruck w...
by CM11
Sun Mar 17, 2024 2:24 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: The Official and ONLY Ireland v Scotland Match thread
Replies: 856
Views: 9911

Re: The Official and ONLY Ireland v Scotland Match thread

Aki didn't look Sharp yesterday. Gibson Park is the real problem, a few years ago, I thought he was shit now he's the most vital player! Englefield who just played for the Saxons is Irish and looks very good- Murray is Ben Youngs level of shit these days. Aki could pull his shorts down and have a s...
by CM11
Sun Mar 17, 2024 2:19 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Replies: 524554
Views: 28404482

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

POM now out on his own with 5 titles as first choice?

Possibly never be overtaken.