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by pontifex
Tue May 07, 2019 7:06 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Bellicose Boris bonkers Brexit bonanza....
Replies: 49490
Views: 1039536

Re: Brexit, going going.....errr gone after the EU elections

Let's hope when Carl Benjamin is jailed, he gets a good manshaming in prison. Someone who responds to a woman making likely false claims about receiving rape threats by commenting that he wouldn't rape her deserves nothing less. Even - especially, even - when he adds the word even.
by pontifex
Fri Oct 05, 2018 4:42 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Inventor of the interwebz says that it has "failed humanity"
Replies: 99
Views: 5409

Re: Inventor of the interwebz says that it has "failed human

Denning, I think your position could be made quite a bit stronger if you were to give us a few instance - two or three - where you personally ended up believing fraudulent claims or outright falsehoods which came to you via non mainstream internet sources. What were those sources? Why did you searc...
by pontifex
Fri Oct 05, 2018 3:40 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Inventor of the interwebz says that it has "failed humanity"
Replies: 99
Views: 5409

Re: Inventor of the interwebz says that it has "failed human

Denning, I think your position could be made quite a bit stronger if you were to give us a few instance - two or three - where you personally ended up believing fraudulent claims or outright falsehoods which came to you via non mainstream internet sources. What were those sources? Why did you searc...
by pontifex
Fri Oct 05, 2018 3:35 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Inventor of the interwebz says that it has "failed humanity"
Replies: 99
Views: 5409

Re: Inventor of the interwebz says that it has "failed human

Denning, who decides what is false and what is true? Companies? Governments? This is a perilously dangerous road,a platform for autocracy. You want Donald Trump and his administration deciding what you can and can't read? deciding what is true what isn't? Mark Zuckerberg? Come to your senses man, t...
by pontifex
Fri Oct 05, 2018 4:10 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Inventor of the interwebz says that it has "failed humanity"
Replies: 99
Views: 5409

Re: Inventor of the interwebz says that it has "failed human

There have long been criminal offences in issuing misleading advertising (including misleading as to the fact of being advertising) that are predicated on only potential harm to the public. It’s all very normal and unauthoritarian. But - again - regulation isn’t criminalisation. I wasn't aware that...
by pontifex
Fri Oct 05, 2018 3:41 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Inventor of the interwebz says that it has "failed humanity"
Replies: 99
Views: 5409

Re: Inventor of the interwebz says that it has "failed human

I’m not talking about opinion. I’m talking about lies. Falsehoods. If an anti-vaxxer says they think they should be free not to vaccinate on civil liberty grounds that’s an opinion. It’s very foolish but is their right to express. If they say that vaccines are proven to cause autism that is a dange...
by pontifex
Fri Oct 05, 2018 3:39 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Inventor of the interwebz says that it has "failed humanity"
Replies: 99
Views: 5409

Re: Inventor of the interwebz says that it has "failed human

Not criminalising lies? What do you think the offence of fraud is FFS? But I’m not even talking about criminalisation. I’m saying that control - the detection and removal of harmful lies - is coming. Again, fraud concerns lies which can be proven to cause harm to an individual or entity. If we are ...
by pontifex
Fri Oct 05, 2018 3:28 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Inventor of the interwebz says that it has "failed humanity"
Replies: 99
Views: 5409

Re: Inventor of the interwebz says that it has "failed human

I’m not talking about opinion. I’m talking about lies. Falsehoods. If an anti-vaxxer says they think they should be free not to vaccinate on civil liberty grounds that’s an opinion. It’s very foolish but is their right to express. If they say that vaccines are proven to cause autism that is a dange...
by pontifex
Fri Oct 05, 2018 3:03 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Inventor of the interwebz says that it has "failed humanity"
Replies: 99
Views: 5409

Re: Inventor of the interwebz says that it has "failed human

I’m not talking about opinion. I’m talking about lies. Falsehoods. If an anti-vaxxer says they think they should be free not to vaccinate on civil liberty grounds that’s an opinion. It’s very foolish but is their right to express. If they say that vaccines are proven to cause autism that is a dange...
by pontifex
Fri Oct 05, 2018 1:03 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Inventor of the interwebz says that it has "failed humanity"
Replies: 99
Views: 5409

Re: Inventor of the interwebz says that it has "failed human

You also have the right to an injunction to stop them saying it again. And if you know about the likelihood of it happening before it happens you can get a quia timet (anticipatory) injunction. All the more so for breach of confidence and privacy actions. This internet age cry of ‘everything can be...
by pontifex
Fri Oct 05, 2018 12:33 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Inventor of the interwebz says that it has "failed humanity"
Replies: 99
Views: 5409

Re: Inventor of the interwebz says that it has "failed human

If what you say is a harmful lie, as judged by a liberal democracy, you do not have the right to say it. You don’t have the right to shout ‘fire’ in a crowded theatre. Do you seriously think someone has the right to lie and say that you’re a dangerous rapist of children and dox you? Seriously? I ha...
by pontifex
Fri Oct 05, 2018 12:02 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Inventor of the interwebz says that it has "failed humanity"
Replies: 99
Views: 5409

Re: Inventor of the interwebz says that it has "failed human

Of course control of speech is compatible with liberal democracy. Defamation law, election law, incitement offences, child porn offences, fraud, misleading advertising restrictions, contractual and tortious liability for misrepresentation, and many, many other measures are all perfectly acceptable,...
by pontifex
Thu Oct 04, 2018 11:43 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Inventor of the interwebz says that it has "failed humanity"
Replies: 99
Views: 5409

Re: Inventor of the interwebz says that it has "failed human

The mechanisms for how we will learn to live in a decentralized world are known by precisely nobody. The mechanisms will include some sectoral control over dangerous lies, mob hatred and the manipulation of large numbers of people by malevolent religious and political fanatics. There are no distant...
by pontifex
Thu Oct 04, 2018 10:30 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 110612
Views: 4930118

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-Already making America Great Again!

Regardless of the politics. Let’s agree on one thing. If women are sexually assaulted the main thing is to ensure it’s as painful and inaccessible tomorrow as it is today to prosecute the assailant and gamble with your life choices and reputation. Then we can all bicker outside of the realité to ou...
by pontifex
Thu Oct 04, 2018 10:26 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 110612
Views: 4930118

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-Already making America Great Again!

Regardless of the politics. Let’s agree on one thing. If women are sexually assaulted the main thing is to ensure it’s as painful and inaccessible tomorrow as it is today to prosecute the assailant and gamble with your life choices and reputation. Then we can all bicker outside of the realité to ou...
by pontifex
Thu Oct 04, 2018 9:15 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Inventor of the interwebz says that it has "failed humanity"
Replies: 99
Views: 5409

Re: Inventor of the interwebz says that it has "failed human

There is clearly a radical narrowing of the Overton Window, and an online, decentralized response, much of which is more likely to be truthful than the Blue Church, What have you got to back that statement up? As it sounds like unmitigated bollocks. I just don't see how someone can believe that nut...
by pontifex
Thu Oct 04, 2018 8:43 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Inventor of the interwebz says that it has "failed humanity"
Replies: 99
Views: 5409

Re: Inventor of the interwebz says that it has "failed human

There is clearly a radical narrowing of the Overton Window, and an online, decentralized response, much of which is more likely to be truthful than the Blue Church, What have you got to back that statement up? As it sounds like unmitigated bollocks. I just don't see how someone can believe that nut...
by pontifex
Thu Oct 04, 2018 5:28 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Grievance studies report:
Replies: 24
Views: 2263

Re: Grievance studies report:

Stephen Pinker tweeted about this. Pretty damning of the social sciences I like the bit where they more or less submitted a chapter of Mein Kampf to a feminist type journal. We've seem this before of course but its always good to reproduce research. It just strengthens the conclusions. it goes to s...
by pontifex
Thu Oct 04, 2018 3:00 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Inventor of the interwebz says that it has "failed humanity"
Replies: 99
Views: 5409

Re: Inventor of the interwebz says that it has "failed human

It's amazing how short-sighted the people who are willing to give away their rights are, in light of this current moral panic. Do they think the Philosopher/Programmer King they want to anoint will not be replaced by another Philosopher/Programmer King? Will that Philosopher/Programmer King also do ...
by pontifex
Thu Oct 04, 2018 2:34 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Inventor of the interwebz says that it has "failed humanity"
Replies: 99
Views: 5409

Re: Inventor of the interwebz says that it has "failed human

There's the - to us, unacceptable - Chinese solution. But western states and private interests are slowly moving to control access and content more sensibly. I used to be wholly opposed to this. But having seen what damage the internet is doing to truth and public discussion I now welcome it. If un...
by pontifex
Thu Oct 04, 2018 2:19 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Inventor of the interwebz says that it has "failed humanity"
Replies: 99
Views: 5409

Re: Inventor of the interwebz says that it has "failed human

There's the - to us, unacceptable - Chinese solution. But western states and private interests are slowly moving to control access and content more sensibly. I used to be wholly opposed to this. But having seen what damage the internet is doing to truth and public discussion I now welcome it. If un...
by pontifex
Thu Oct 04, 2018 2:17 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Inventor of the interwebz says that it has "failed humanity"
Replies: 99
Views: 5409

Re: Inventor of the interwebz says that it has "failed human

In truth, free will is at the very heart of all of our political questions, including questions around democracy. The whole discourse as it is at the moment, appears to mirror Harari's - i.e. that people can be subject to manipulation (though we the elites are too smart to be subject to any form of ...
by pontifex
Thu Oct 04, 2018 1:58 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Inventor of the interwebz says that it has "failed humanity"
Replies: 99
Views: 5409

Re: Inventor of the interwebz says that it has "failed human

Interestingly, Yuval Harari, author of Sapiens , has started to more or less call for an end to democracy and free distribution of information. His argument is that people's minds are no longer under their own control, and that people can be manipulated en masse by more powerful people, such that in...
by pontifex
Thu Oct 04, 2018 1:45 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Inventor of the interwebz says that it has "failed humanity"
Replies: 99
Views: 5409

Re: Inventor of the interwebz says that it has "failed human

The thrust of the article concerns technology companies spying on the consumer, hence his alternative being launched. It's not about the media (or political results not going the way someone wanted). There will be a set of decentralised, non-advertising-funded alternatives to common applications wi...
by pontifex
Thu Oct 04, 2018 1:36 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Inventor of the interwebz says that it has "failed humanity"
Replies: 99
Views: 5409

Re: Inventor of the interwebz says that it has "failed human

No, there really isn't a sense making apparatus. That's just wishful thinking. The opportunity for people to speak is great. But the abusers of it do far more harm than the good done by responsible comment. Nobody's sneering at the great unwashed. I'm sneering at liars, of all types and classes. As...
by pontifex
Thu Oct 04, 2018 1:14 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Inventor of the interwebz says that it has "failed humanity"
Replies: 99
Views: 5409

Re: Inventor of the interwebz says that it has "failed human

Back onto the main topic, what we are moving away from is the 'Blue Church' of centralized, broadcast media in which the few speak to the many (and tell them what to think), towards a de-centralized sense-making apparatus which is only just emerging and nobody properly understands. The Blue Church ...
by pontifex
Thu Oct 04, 2018 12:51 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Inventor of the interwebz says that it has "failed humanity"
Replies: 99
Views: 5409

Re: Inventor of the interwebz says that it has "failed human

It's all well and good to try to tackle the privacy and intrusion problems with the internet. But the bigger problem is the spreading of dangerous lies. There was a time when information was properly researched and edited before being made public. Professional and corporate reputations depended on ...
by pontifex
Sat Jun 02, 2018 10:21 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Visa goooooooone!
Replies: 28
Views: 2626

Re: Visa goooooooone!

If only there was some form of digital payment which wasn't dependent on a single company's hardware, and who's transactions could be independently verified by the users..... ...and which could process a few million transactions a second. Like a second layer which has tiny fees, instant processing ...
by pontifex
Tue May 29, 2018 3:09 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: This Jordan Peterson bloke
Replies: 2655
Views: 146664

Re: This Jordan Peterson bloke

Thai guy wrote:
pontifex wrote:
Thai guy wrote:Now who's trying too hard. :shock:
Not me. I'm just insulting you. The responses, however...
Why are you posting at 3am?
Because I'm a nightowl. Always have been. Why are you posting so poorly?
by pontifex
Tue May 29, 2018 3:00 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: This Jordan Peterson bloke
Replies: 2655
Views: 146664

Re: This Jordan Peterson bloke

Thai guy wrote:Now who's trying too hard. :shock:
Not me. I'm just insulting you. The responses, however...
by pontifex
Tue May 29, 2018 2:54 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: This Jordan Peterson bloke
Replies: 2655
Views: 146664

Re: This Jordan Peterson bloke

Thai guy wrote: Dumbshit? Halfwit? Try-hard? You're better than this usually. You've fallen from your "leftist, liberal" heights. :lol:
Nah. I'm just telling you what I think of you. Occasionally I do that. Conceited people with no basis for their conceitedness irritate me. I guess it's a weakness. Kill me.
by pontifex
Tue May 29, 2018 2:52 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: This Jordan Peterson bloke
Replies: 2655
Views: 146664

Re: This Jordan Peterson bloke

Surely the only way one could argue a 'patriarchy' is a real thing is if its taken as fact men and womens brains are different and on average they prefer different types of jobs... and as traditionally female dominated roles get paid less than traditionally male dominated roles... then its the men ...
by pontifex
Tue May 29, 2018 2:45 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: This Jordan Peterson bloke
Replies: 2655
Views: 146664

Re: This Jordan Peterson bloke

:lol: Not taking Peterson being found out too well, are you. I find the concerted effort rather funny, actually. I'm just telling you what I think of you, personally. What concerted effort? You and Seneca tag-teamed for two pages using your biggest words trying to explain away Peterson's brain fart...
by pontifex
Tue May 29, 2018 2:34 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: This Jordan Peterson bloke
Replies: 2655
Views: 146664

Re: This Jordan Peterson bloke

:lol: Not taking Peterson being found out too well, are you. I find the concerted effort rather funny, actually. I'm just telling you what I think of you, personally. What concerted effort? You and Seneca tag-teamed for two pages using your biggest words trying to explain away Peterson's brain fart...
by pontifex
Tue May 29, 2018 2:01 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: This Jordan Peterson bloke
Replies: 2655
Views: 146664

Re: This Jordan Peterson bloke

Thai guy wrote::lol: Not taking Peterson being found out too well, are you.
I find the concerted effort rather funny, actually. I'm just telling you what I think of you, personally.
by pontifex
Tue May 29, 2018 1:56 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: This Jordan Peterson bloke
Replies: 2655
Views: 146664

Re: This Jordan Peterson bloke

The man who got him his job: https://www.thestar.com/opinion/2018/05/25/i-was-jordan-petersons-strongest-supporter-now-i-think-hes-dangerous.html Peterson is such a f**king charlatan. That was really interesting because it was a personal account - Schiff actually put Peterson and his family up in h...
by pontifex
Tue May 29, 2018 1:10 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: This Jordan Peterson bloke
Replies: 2655
Views: 146664

Re: This Jordan Peterson bloke

Hmm. My wife is a nurse, from a southern European country. She has what is effectively a masters degree. She is smart and passionate. She helps mothers bring babies into the world, works very anti-social hours that inhibit her ability to care for her own (as yet unborn) child, and is poorly compens...
by pontifex
Tue May 29, 2018 1:07 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: This Jordan Peterson bloke
Replies: 2655
Views: 146664

Re: This Jordan Peterson bloke

If we were arguing all this shit in an honest way, rather than a completely dishonest way, we might be able to sort it all out. Unfortunately, this is all characterised not in terms of the average, but in terms of the top of society, and there is no patience.
by pontifex
Tue May 29, 2018 1:02 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: This Jordan Peterson bloke
Replies: 2655
Views: 146664

Re: This Jordan Peterson bloke

One for bimboman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kUuURByaXc Just started it. I wonder if Peterson pushes back on the exclusively materialist outlook of Pinker's claims. If anyone would, I would guess it would be him. We do need to talk about growing inequality, a la Piketty, though. We measure ou...