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by Santa
Sat Oct 31, 2020 1:05 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: The Culture Wars Mega Thread
Replies: 1950
Views: 97109

Re: The Culture Wars Mega Thread

Claire Lehman made a very good point the other day. Just as one can be too online one can be too offline. The crazy shit spills over and there are real world consequences. Pleading ignorance will not save you so you should be aware.
by Santa
Sat Oct 31, 2020 1:00 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: The Culture Wars Mega Thread
Replies: 1950
Views: 97109

Re: The Culture Wars Mega Thread

Abraham Lincoln being destatuefied now. Not even having a whole war to end slavery is enough.
by Santa
Fri Oct 30, 2020 11:43 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 114125
Views: 5056045

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

The murder rates were roughly tracking 2019 until around the end of May. Its inexplicable really.
by Santa
Fri Oct 30, 2020 11:30 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 114125
Views: 5056045

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

US murder rate up 53% on last year. 53%! What could possibly be behind this terrible state of affairs?
by Santa
Fri Oct 30, 2020 11:16 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 114125
Views: 5056045

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

The thing is the Minnesota decision was a matter of law not morality. Progressives often get this confused.
by Santa
Fri Oct 30, 2020 10:17 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 114125
Views: 5056045

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Good words from Biden:

I'm not going to shut down the country.

I'm not going to shut down the economy.

I'm going to shut down the virus.

Powerful. Direct. :thumbup:
by Santa
Fri Oct 30, 2020 9:48 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 114125
Views: 5056045

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

The Constitution should govern except sometimes. :thumbup:
by Santa
Fri Oct 30, 2020 9:30 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 114125
Views: 5056045

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

So the consensus on here is that the claimed 33.1% GDP growth wasn't true. Good to know. :thumbup:
by Santa
Fri Oct 30, 2020 6:47 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 114125
Views: 5056045

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

US GDP up 33.1% annualised last quarter. :thumbup:
by Santa
Fri Oct 30, 2020 3:14 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 114125
Views: 5056045

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

No links huh? :?
by Santa
Fri Oct 30, 2020 12:33 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 114125
Views: 5056045

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

I mean I know there was that letter from ex-intelligence guys but even they said they had no actual evidence. So it's a funny old situation that the media is refusing to reporting on a matter for which there is evidence (dodgy business) on the basis of an assumed situation for which there is no evid...
by Santa
Fri Oct 30, 2020 12:29 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 114125
Views: 5056045

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

It's a funny old situation. Apparently 51% of Americans think it is Russian disinformation so there should be good evidence that that is the case. I just haven't seen any. Has anyone?
by Santa
Fri Oct 30, 2020 12:06 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 114125
Views: 5056045

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

The Intercept editors seems to think the assertions about a Russian disinformation campaign have been... hasty. Interesting. Can the Russian disinformation campaignists on here link me to a good article that steps through the evidence that it is such a campaign?
by Santa
Fri Oct 30, 2020 11:49 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 114125
Views: 5056045

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Rachel Maddow used the same defence if I remember correctly.
by Santa
Fri Oct 30, 2020 11:46 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: NZ Politics Thread
Replies: 33411
Views: 1223803

Re: NZ Politics Thread

How fudge.ng dare people have a different opinion than me. :frown:
by Santa
Fri Oct 30, 2020 1:07 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: French terror attacks.
Replies: 371
Views: 7368

Re: French terror attacks.

Putting up with a few beheadings is a risk I'm willing for other people to take in ordet to not hurt some other people's feelings. Language can be violence too so its even Stevens really. :thumbup:
by Santa
Thu Oct 29, 2020 7:49 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 114125
Views: 5056045

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

(He also never becomes president if Obama hadn't embarrassed him at a White House Correspondents Dinner, but I digress.) I remember watching that at the time, and thinking this is going on for uncomfortably too long, and into unnecessary detail. It stopped being funny, and just became a personal at...
by Santa
Thu Oct 29, 2020 5:02 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 114125
Views: 5056045

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Wharton neither confirms or refutes Trump's claim. Trump doesn't show his academic transcript. Wharton confirms he graduated from there but are happy to end the association with Trump at that point. Surprising as he's their only alumni to be president. I say his claim is bullshit. Alumnx please. ht...
by Santa
Thu Oct 29, 2020 4:28 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 114125
Views: 5056045

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Re Trump's education, there is an important rumour that he may have rooted Candice Bergen at the time in which case I wouldn't be surprised if he did come first.
by Santa
Thu Oct 29, 2020 4:22 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 114125
Views: 5056045

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Girls Scouts cancelled for celebrating ACB's ascension as the the 5th ever woman ever. Unfortunately she's not the right kind of woman, so feminism is clearly more about politics than gender. As if we didn't know. Vote Biden for more. :thumbup:
by Santa
Thu Oct 29, 2020 4:18 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 114125
Views: 5056045

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

It's a glimpse of what the far Right Republicans are really like. It's a mixture of the rich and gun loving evangelicals who adore the rich. The rich uses these evangelicals but really don't like them. In my opinion the Republican Party of old doesn't exist any longer. Trump put the final nail in t...
by Santa
Thu Oct 29, 2020 3:35 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 114125
Views: 5056045

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

It's a glimpse of what the far Right Republicans are really like. It's a mixture of the rich and gun loving evangelicals who adore the rich. The rich uses these evangelicals but really don't like them. In my opinion the Republican Party of old doesn't exist any longer. Trump put the final nail in t...
by Santa
Thu Oct 29, 2020 1:31 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 114125
Views: 5056045

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Some quotes from the Socialist Newspaper, The Guardian, who interviewed Trump's enemies: Bob Woodward Now you have the added factor that Trump’s also had Covid-19 and he’s on steroids, saying things like, “It is a blessing from God that I got the virus”. I can’t think of anything more absurd, or cr...
by Santa
Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:32 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: French terror attacks.
Replies: 371
Views: 7368

Re: Teacher beheaded in France

Hmm another completely random attack that is unrelated to culture or ideology. How can these unconnected events ever be explained?
by Santa
Thu Oct 29, 2020 10:35 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: No more private conversations at home in Scotland now?
Replies: 71
Views: 1383

Re: No more private conversations at home in Scotland now?

One aspect of this is entirely sensible, an act is either legal or it is not so ambiguity and loopholes are removed. I struggle to see why something that is a crime outside the home should not be a crime within it. Then there is the question of whether what is being legislated is workable or reason...
by Santa
Wed Oct 28, 2020 10:22 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 114125
Views: 5056045

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Probably an opportune time to show this. Not sure if anyone caught this stuff in 2016.

Some very weird B-C type hybridity going on here.

https://mobile.twitter.com/wef/status/7 ... 4043561984

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2016/11/ ... t-that-is/
by Santa
Wed Oct 28, 2020 10:12 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 114125
Views: 5056045

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Biden is a weak leader. He's only a figurehead. Most of the people who got him into power are Cs or Bs that have cynically used Cs or C ideology to gain or maintain their own power. Harris is one of those people (a B using Cs if not an actual C). Given Biden's fragility Harris is very close to the ...
by Santa
Wed Oct 28, 2020 10:03 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 114125
Views: 5056045

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Granted, but if it was obvious to me it should have been obvious to most. Anyway, I think you're correct. Biden will go the way of the strongest influence and if that isn't coming from the Cs right now it won't be long. I'm almost hoping for a Biden win as there is something oddly compelling about ...
by Santa
Wed Oct 28, 2020 9:58 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 114125
Views: 5056045

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

I wonder how Mick rates Ilhan I like her. She's got some of the usual dumb positions of her ilk but she's a fair bit more intelligent than AOC. I was talking about how hot she is :blush: :lol: She's better than AOC, I'll give you that. I trust you've seen the error of your ways on that account. And...
by Santa
Wed Oct 28, 2020 9:54 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 114125
Views: 5056045

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Biden is a weak leader. He's only a figurehead. Most of the people who got him into power are Cs or Bs that have cynically used Cs or C ideology to gain or maintain their own power. Harris is one of those people (a B using Cs if not an actual C). Given Biden's fragility Harris is very close to the ...
by Santa
Wed Oct 28, 2020 9:47 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: American Cops behaving Badly (All inclusive thread)
Replies: 6551
Views: 301263

Re: American Cops behaving Badly (All inclusive thread)

Some good solid BLM anti-semitism. These guys need to keep their masks up. For another week at least.

https://youtu.be/FZx0_ntCVxE
by Santa
Wed Oct 28, 2020 8:37 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 114125
Views: 5056045

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Vote Biden https://prospect.org/api/amp/politics/sources-gina-raimondo-being-considered-as-biden-treasury/?__twitter_impression=true Joe Biden’s transition team has informed Democratic officials that Gina Raimondo, the centrist governor of Rhode Island, is under consideration as the next Secretary ...
by Santa
Wed Oct 28, 2020 8:15 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: No more private conversations at home in Scotland now?
Replies: 71
Views: 1383

Re: No more private conversations at home in Scotland now?

Pretty much my take on it - to use a poor comparison, it wouldn't matter if someone beat their wife in public or in the privacy of the bedroom, it's still exactly the same crime. Plenty of things are crimes in public but not in private. That's part of the point of the distinction. I'm not referring...
by Santa
Wed Oct 28, 2020 8:08 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 114125
Views: 5056045

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

I am sensing some variation in group level attractiveness distributions going on here.
by Santa
Wed Oct 28, 2020 8:04 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 114125
Views: 5056045

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Vote Biden https://prospect.org/api/amp/politics/sources-gina-raimondo-being-considered-as-biden-treasury/?__twitter_impression=true Joe Biden’s transition team has informed Democratic officials that Gina Raimondo, the centrist governor of Rhode Island, is under consideration as the next Secretary ...
by Santa
Wed Oct 28, 2020 7:00 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: No more private conversations at home in Scotland now?
Replies: 71
Views: 1383

Re: No more private conversations at home in Scotland now?

One aspect of this is entirely sensible, an act is either legal or it is not so ambiguity and loopholes are removed. I struggle to see why something that is a crime outside the home should not be a crime within it. Then there is the question of whether what is being legislated is workable or reason...
by Santa
Wed Oct 28, 2020 6:54 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: No more private conversations at home in Scotland now?
Replies: 71
Views: 1383

Re: No more private conversations at home in Scotland now?

One aspect of this is entirely sensible, an act is either legal or it is not so ambiguity and loopholes are removed. I struggle to see why something that is a crime outside the home should not be a crime within it. Then there is the question of whether what is being legislated is workable or reason...
by Santa
Wed Oct 28, 2020 6:50 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 114125
Views: 5056045

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Vote Biden https://prospect.org/api/amp/politics/sources-gina-raimondo-being-considered-as-biden-treasury/?__twitter_impression=true Joe Biden’s transition team has informed Democratic officials that Gina Raimondo, the centrist governor of Rhode Island, is under consideration as the next Secretary o...
by Santa
Wed Oct 28, 2020 6:42 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: No more private conversations at home in Scotland now?
Replies: 71
Views: 1383

Re: No more private conversations at home in Scotland now?

It looks like the kind of thing Jacinda Ardern could really get behind. Perhaps a bit of a template as they're already talking about bolstering hate speech law.
by Santa
Wed Oct 28, 2020 6:13 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: No more private conversations at home in Scotland now?
Replies: 71
Views: 1383

Re: No more private conversations at home in Scotland now?

If I'm reading it correctly, this does make some semblance of sense. It's just removing what is essentially a form of castle doctrine from incitement laws. Seeing as significant amounts of such incitement - if we're at all worried about it - occur in closed shops, this would make some sense. This o...