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by ox wagon
Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:59 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: OFFICIAL Brexit Thread
Replies: 40892
Views: 2094207

Re: OFFICIAL Brexit Thread

I cannot describe the sadness of people crossing forums just to cry over Brexit. Using a forum means failing the sadness test from the get go, sorry to inform you Mr.32000 post forum user. The only people crying about Brexit are those who have been harmed by it. For example people in the UK fishing...
by ox wagon
Fri Apr 14, 2023 5:29 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: OFFICIAL Brexit Thread
Replies: 40892
Views: 2094207

Re: OFFICIAL Brexit Thread

sorCrer wrote: Fri Apr 14, 2023 5:16 pm Ox? :shock:
I post at the other place, traffic is lower, still get oom rugby updates but less time wasted.
by ox wagon
Fri Apr 14, 2023 4:44 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: OFFICIAL Brexit Thread
Replies: 40892
Views: 2094207

Re: OFFICIAL Brexit Thread

but of a shame then it’s requests were repeatedly ignored and it felt compelled to leave then really ? Surely the maliciousness could as easily be said to come initially from the Eu for not letting dcam get any of requests ? Or de Gaulle before that even ? You can blame Saint at the other place for...
by ox wagon
Mon Aug 23, 2021 7:24 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: RC2021 R2 Argentina v South Africa - SAT AUG 21 16:05 GMT - Nelson Mandela Bay Stadium
Replies: 100
Views: 8688

Re: RC2021 R2 Argentina v South Africa - SAT AUG 21 16:05 GMT - Nelson Mandela Bay Stadium

sorCrer wrote: Mon Aug 23, 2021 7:15 pm He retired from international rugby on 2018. :?
No one has ever un-retired.

I want him to come back just so I can see the reaction. Still, a Sharks player was called up and there always needs to be more of them.
by ox wagon
Mon Aug 23, 2021 7:11 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Perth All Black vs Wallaby Test Cancelled?
Replies: 678
Views: 38515

Re: Perth All Black vs Wallaby Test Cancelled?

Word is our guys are heading to Queensland. Gets my vote. The Boks going to Aus then to the UK, didn't make much sense and assumed quite a lot about how much money could even be made doing that (you're not selling out 80k stadiums multiple times for non-RWC neutral matches with test tickets at usual...
by ox wagon
Sun Aug 22, 2021 12:16 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Perth All Black vs Wallaby Test Cancelled?
Replies: 678
Views: 38515

Re: Perth All Black vs Wallaby Test Cancelled?

There might be some truth in that, 2 games between Boks and All Blacks at Twickenham on successive weekends would sell out and be a huge revenue generator. The Crusaders v Sharks game at Twickenham had half the stands closed and the tickets were cheap. From memory opening the entire stadium greatly...
by ox wagon
Sun Aug 22, 2021 8:28 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Perth All Black vs Wallaby Test Cancelled?
Replies: 678
Views: 38515

Re: Perth All Black vs Wallaby Test Cancelled?

Ted. wrote: Sun Aug 22, 2021 8:26 amPrecisely. The interview with the Saffa I saw gave the same reasons, uncertainty when, where and if the games can be played. They said SA were waiting on confirmation which they had yet to receive.

So Ox, the same reasons. :?
Playing dumb isn't going to fool anyone.
by ox wagon
Sun Aug 22, 2021 8:24 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Perth All Black vs Wallaby Test Cancelled?
Replies: 678
Views: 38515

Re: Perth All Black vs Wallaby Test Cancelled?

UncleFB wrote: Sun Aug 22, 2021 8:22 am NZ is not holding up the whole comp, just this one game. The rest of the comp hasn't been sorted yet due to Covid issues.
Do the honourable thing like the Boks and step aside.
by ox wagon
Sun Aug 22, 2021 8:18 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Perth All Black vs Wallaby Test Cancelled?
Replies: 678
Views: 38515

Re: Perth All Black vs Wallaby Test Cancelled?

I had a quick look up page but didn't see anything, however I assume it is already well known that the Boks are not travelling for more or less the same reasons? :? It's not for the same reason. The Kiwis have thrown the whole tournament into jeopardy, for the Boks to travel somewhere they need to ...
by ox wagon
Sat Aug 21, 2021 11:27 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: RC2021 R2 Argentina v South Africa - SAT AUG 21 16:05 GMT - Nelson Mandela Bay Stadium
Replies: 100
Views: 8688

Re: RC2021 R2 Argentina v South Africa - SAT AUG 21 16:05 GMT - Nelson Mandela Bay Stadium

Reinach is rubbish. Pretty much the same at every breakdown. Arrives there slightly late, doesn't even look at where the ball is at the base of the ruck. First has a long pointy conversation with his backline then takes forever to roll the ball out with his feet but doesn't look where the oppositio...
by ox wagon
Sat Aug 21, 2021 9:43 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: RC2021 R2 Argentina v South Africa - SAT AUG 21 16:05 GMT - Nelson Mandela Bay Stadium
Replies: 100
Views: 8688

Re: RC2021 R2 Argentina v South Africa - SAT AUG 21 16:05 GMT - Nelson Mandela Bay Stadium

OomStruisbaai wrote: Sat Aug 21, 2021 9:26 pmMyself suffering with screwed ankle ligaments after dancing on the table with our Lion wins. On krukke for 6 weeks.
:thumbup: :lol:
by ox wagon
Sat Aug 21, 2021 9:06 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: RC2021 R2 Argentina v South Africa - SAT AUG 21 16:05 GMT - Nelson Mandela Bay Stadium
Replies: 100
Views: 8688

Re: RC2021 R2 Argentina v South Africa - SAT AUG 21 16:05 GMT - Nelson Mandela Bay Stadium

That off the ball tackle on Hendrikse that resulted in him going off injured and the Boks playing the rest of the match without a scrumhalf, was bad. Ref got it wrong, the Puma player wasn't "committed" he took three steps after the ball was kicked before he took out Hendrikse. "Committed" means una...
by ox wagon
Fri Aug 20, 2021 12:32 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Perth All Black vs Wallaby Test Cancelled?
Replies: 678
Views: 38515

Re: Perth All Black vs Wallaby Test Cancelled?

Don't forget the Autumn series is in the UK so they have to travel there anyway... and there are quite a few spare weeks between now and the autumn internationals... SANZAAR aren't on the financial hook for the EOYT matches. But they still have to get there... so surely easier to reduce the variabl...
by ox wagon
Fri Aug 20, 2021 12:17 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Perth All Black vs Wallaby Test Cancelled?
Replies: 678
Views: 38515

Re: Perth All Black vs Wallaby Test Cancelled?

Grandpa wrote: Fri Aug 20, 2021 12:12 pmDon't forget the Autumn series is in the UK so they have to travel there anyway... and there are quite a few spare weeks between now and the autumn internationals...
SANZAAR aren't on the financial hook for the EOYT matches.
by ox wagon
Fri Aug 20, 2021 11:51 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Perth All Black vs Wallaby Test Cancelled?
Replies: 678
Views: 38515

Re: Perth All Black vs Wallaby Test Cancelled?

If you can think of a better alternative to the UK? South Africa, where all the matches will actually get played. No crowds and no income.... and limited vaccine... so more risk. SA is a much less viable alternative... The Euros were held when we were still in lockdown.. now we aren't in lockdown a...
by ox wagon
Fri Aug 20, 2021 10:55 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Perth All Black vs Wallaby Test Cancelled?
Replies: 678
Views: 38515

Re: Perth All Black vs Wallaby Test Cancelled?

Grandpa wrote: Fri Aug 20, 2021 10:54 amIf you can think of a better alternative to the UK?
South Africa, where all the matches will actually get played.
by ox wagon
Fri Aug 20, 2021 10:49 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Perth All Black vs Wallaby Test Cancelled?
Replies: 678
Views: 38515

Re: Perth All Black vs Wallaby Test Cancelled?

Th Euros football tournament seemed to manage mass movement of sports teams ok? And that was far more complicated? It was a super spreader event that was tolerated because it was soccer and European sides were playing. A quick Google gives many stories like these: https://inews.co.uk/news/wembley-v...
by ox wagon
Fri Aug 20, 2021 10:41 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Perth All Black vs Wallaby Test Cancelled?
Replies: 678
Views: 38515

Re: Perth All Black vs Wallaby Test Cancelled?

Th Euros football tournament seemed to manage mass movement of sports teams ok? And that was far more complicated? It was a super spreader event that was tolerated because it was soccer and European sides were playing. A quick Google gives many stories like these: https://inews.co.uk/news/wembley-v...
by ox wagon
Fri Aug 20, 2021 10:32 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Perth All Black vs Wallaby Test Cancelled?
Replies: 678
Views: 38515

Re: Perth All Black vs Wallaby Test Cancelled?

The RFU has already indicated its willingness to enter into negotiations with Sanzaar, but reiterated that an exemption would be required from the UK Government in order to host games in England and Wales. “The RFU is always open to discussion regarding the global calendar and we are aware of the c...
by ox wagon
Fri Aug 20, 2021 9:00 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: RC2021 R2 Argentina v South Africa - SAT AUG 21 16:05 GMT - Nelson Mandela Bay Stadium
Replies: 100
Views: 8688

Re: RC2021 R2 Argentina v South Africa - SAT AUG 21 16:05 GMT - Nelson Mandela Bay Stadium

This could be the Pumas and Springboks last RC match this year, and maybe just their last match this year as November is winter in the NH. The Covid stuff has become silly. On second thoughts, if the RC is cancelled the Boks and Pumas should do a 5 match test series. Or at least have 1 more match t...
by ox wagon
Fri Aug 20, 2021 8:15 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: RC2021 R2 Argentina v South Africa - SAT AUG 21 16:05 GMT - Nelson Mandela Bay Stadium
Replies: 100
Views: 8688

Re: RC2021 R2 Argentina v South Africa - SAT AUG 21 16:05 GMT - Nelson Mandela Bay Stadium

This could be the Pumas and Springboks last RC match this year, and maybe just their last match this year as November is winter in the NH. The Covid stuff has become silly. It looks like the best available team with some changes for injuries, resting Etzebeth, and starting a frontrow which doesn't g...
by ox wagon
Fri Aug 20, 2021 12:39 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: The Fall of Kabul
Replies: 1220
Views: 87551

Re: The Fall of Kabul

Bell Pottinger Their ex-employees founded copycat amoral PR operations. Always London based with ME subsidiaries, there's a lot of money in working for dodgy oil rich ME regimes. Taliban PR does seem a bit next level, there's even viral videos of them on fairground rides, anything portraying them a...
by ox wagon
Tue Aug 17, 2021 1:50 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: The Fall of Kabul
Replies: 1220
Views: 87551

Re: The Fall of Kabul

Say what you will about the inevitability of the Taliban taking over, but the way this has gone down is a travesty. This is not just an embarrassment for the US, but a completely immoral abandonment of thousands who assisted us with promises of their safety. It even goes beyond that as who will tru...
by ox wagon
Sun Aug 15, 2021 2:40 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: The Fall of Kabul
Replies: 1220
Views: 87551

Re: The Fall of Kabul

No, it isn’t a fair comparison. The US commitment to Afghanistan is dwarfed by its current numbers and duration in Germany, Japan and Korea. The low level of numbers in the the country were providing effective support for the Afghans at a relatively low cost in terms of blood and treasure. The demo...
by ox wagon
Sun Aug 15, 2021 11:53 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: The Fall of Kabul
Replies: 1220
Views: 87551

Re: The Fall of Kabul

No, it isn’t a fair comparison. The US commitment to Afghanistan is dwarfed by its current numbers and duration in Germany, Japan and Korea. The low level of numbers in the the country were providing effective support for the Afghans at a relatively low cost in terms of blood and treasure. The demo...
by ox wagon
Sat Aug 14, 2021 8:23 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: RC2021 R1 South Africa v Argentina - SAT AUG 14 16:05 GMT - Nelson Mandela Bay Stadium
Replies: 186
Views: 19408

Re: RC2021 R1 South Africa v Argentina - SAT AUG 14 16:05 GMT - Nelson Mandela Bay Stadium

The kicks, on the Boks side at least, was Rassieball The kicks worked though. One of the main reasons they need to add something ball in hand, that can be used a couple of times a match, is to force the opposition defence up and make even more room for the kicks. Was encouraged to see Frans going f...
by ox wagon
Sat Aug 14, 2021 7:23 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: RC2021 R1 South Africa v Argentina - SAT AUG 14 16:05 GMT - Nelson Mandela Bay Stadium
Replies: 186
Views: 19408

Re: RC2021 R1 South Africa v Argentina - SAT AUG 14 16:05 GMT - Nelson Mandela Bay Stadium

An unexpectedly strong win, thought it would be closer. It's a decent Pumas team, their 2020/2021 results speak for themselves. Boks need to work more on their attack ball in hand though, I don't mean randomly throwing it around all the time, but use ball more deliberately from first/second phase a ...
by ox wagon
Sat Aug 14, 2021 7:12 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: RC2021 R1 South Africa v Argentina - SAT AUG 14 16:05 GMT - Nelson Mandela Bay Stadium
Replies: 186
Views: 19408

Re: RC2021 R1 South Africa v Argentina - SAT AUG 14 16:05 GMT - Nelson Mandela Bay Stadium

The Gelant/Willemse/Fassi question. When rookie backline players come in that have skill and potential, if there's time to do it start them on the wing (Frans Steyn/Ruan Pienaar/Jean de Villiers/Jaque Fourie all started test rugby on the wing), then move them in to a position that's appropriate to t...
by ox wagon
Fri Aug 13, 2021 7:39 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Rassie. A tactical genius?
Replies: 87
Views: 10338

Re: Rassie. A tactical genius?

sorCrer wrote: Thu Aug 12, 2021 3:36 pmhttps://twitter.com/RassieRugby/status/ ... 37504?s=19

He has lost it ... :(
Only the best Bok backroom staff speak in fables. Peter de Villiers imparted many insights through fables, and biblical parables too. :thumbup: :smug:
by ox wagon
Fri Aug 13, 2021 7:21 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: How will a New Sovereign State in the Western Cape affect the boks?
Replies: 17
Views: 1441

Re: How will a New Sovereign State in the Western Cape affect the boks?

It's rubbish. The Cape Independence Party are a bunch of kooks. I've had multiple 'discussions' with their leader. Completely clueless on secession requirements. They're a racist bunch who don't want black majority rule. +1 They're clueless about how to actually achieve independence. They seem to t...
by ox wagon
Tue Aug 10, 2021 4:22 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: RC2021 R1 South Africa v Argentina - SAT AUG 14 16:05 GMT - Nelson Mandela Bay Stadium
Replies: 186
Views: 19408

Re: RC2021 R1 South Africa v Argentina - SAT AUG 14 16:05 GMT - Nelson Mandela Bay Stadium

50:22: If the team in possession kicks the ball from their half indirectly into touch inside their opponents’ 22, they will throw into the resultant lineout. The ball cannot be passed or carried back into the defensive half for the 50:22 to be played. The phase must originate inside the defensive h...
by ox wagon
Mon Aug 09, 2021 2:43 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: RC2021 R1 South Africa v Argentina - SAT AUG 14 16:05 GMT - Nelson Mandela Bay Stadium
Replies: 186
Views: 19408

Re: RC2021 R1 South Africa v Argentina - SAT AUG 14 16:05 GMT - Nelson Mandela Bay Stadium

This competition looks like it'll be very tough for the Boks. My suspicion based on results and the matches I've watched in 2020 and 2021, is that both the Pumas and Wallabies are much stronger than they're being credit for by many. The Boks also have the problem of needing to build squad depth by b...
by ox wagon
Mon Aug 09, 2021 10:31 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Lions tour 2025 - f****d already
Replies: 46
Views: 5876

Re: Lions tour 2025 - f****d already

The Lions idea doesn't have much more time left as it currently stands. The basic tension is between wanting a quality entertaining matches and wanting to win. They're not the same thing and are in conflict. Lions fans just want to see some good rugby and yes win the odd tour, don't have to win eve...
by ox wagon
Mon Aug 09, 2021 8:20 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Lions tour 2025 - f****d already
Replies: 46
Views: 5876

Re: Lions tour 2025 - f****d already

The Lions idea doesn't have much more time left as it currently stands. The basic tension is between wanting a quality entertaining matches and wanting to win. They're not the same thing and are in conflict. There's no way an invitational side can produce performances as polished and high quality, a...
by ox wagon
Sun Aug 08, 2021 9:51 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: More blatant South African Cheating Exposed
Replies: 42
Views: 4972

Re: More blatant South African Cheating Exposed

The crying by people who think their team should've won a series their side lost 2-1 and lost to SA A as well, has reached the level of going after a female physio. Please continue, I assure you I find this all very enjoyable. It's not porn. You shouldn't like it that much, it's not healthy. You ch...
by ox wagon
Sun Aug 08, 2021 9:43 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: More blatant South African Cheating Exposed
Replies: 42
Views: 4972

Re: More blatant South African Cheating Exposed

The crying by people who think their team should've won a series their side lost 2-1 and lost to SA A as well, has reached the level of going after a female physio.

Please continue, I assure you I find this all very enjoyable.
by ox wagon
Sun Aug 08, 2021 11:38 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Where do you Rate the '21 Lions picked against prev Lions in SA
Replies: 17
Views: 3222

Re: Where do you Rate the '21 Lions picked against prev Lions in SA

1974 and 1980 are way before my time, could watch the match footage but it's so out of context now it's impossible to judge. 2021 was odd because unlike 1997 and 2009, it didn't feel like the Lions coaches got the most out of the players/team, but it is what it is. The order from the last three is c...
by ox wagon
Sun Aug 08, 2021 12:53 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: The official Lions 2021 thread
Replies: 4571
Views: 378578

Re: The official Lions 2021 thread

This tour will be remembered with embarrassment, should never have happened That's not how it works, Nipper. Even Lions tours during apartheid aren't remembered as an embarrassment. This is how it works in reality, if the Lions win we never hear the end of it. Any other result and down the memory h...
by ox wagon
Wed Aug 04, 2021 3:54 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Where do you Rate the '21 Lions picked against prev Lions in SA
Replies: 17
Views: 3222

Re: Where do you Rate the '21 Lions picked against prev Lions in SA

Pole wrote: Wed Aug 04, 2021 3:29 pm Can't really compare the previous as we are living in a new world with a series without fans.. Those Lions fans make the series, the pasty bastards.
:?

There's only been travelling Lions fans to two tours in SA.
by ox wagon
Wed Aug 04, 2021 2:50 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Official Match Thread: BIL vs Springboks - Decider - 7th August
Replies: 928
Views: 68912

Re: Official Match Thread: BIL vs Springboks - Decider - 7th August

BIg issue for the Boks is whether FdK and PSdT will be fit Can’t see Vermeulen play although he has rejoined the squad They are all out. Reinach in plus Mostert to 7 and Lood to start at lock. 5/3 split on bench, with Morne Steyn coming in. Apart from sub props, there's nothing to worry about comin...