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by Toro
Tue Oct 31, 2023 11:16 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Are the Boks coached to milk cards??
Replies: 41
Views: 1135

Re: Are the Boks coached to milk cards??

Terrible post notwithstaanding, it is quite interesting to see how much time Cane actually had. I originally was quite sympathtic towards him thinking it was a reflexive action when Kriel turned into him (which I still think it was), but he had a lot of time preceding the incident to go low and cho...
by Toro
Mon Oct 30, 2023 9:01 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: 2023 Rugby World Cup Final Match Thread - NZ Vs South Africa
Replies: 2845
Views: 44524

Re: 2023 Rugby World Cup Final Match Thread - NZ Vs South Africa

Yeah, I know it's largely in reaction to the torrent of negativity but I've seen loads of posts on twitter etc saying Barnes was great and got all the big calls right. Now, they're probably just talking about the Cane & Kolisi cards, which tbf he did get right (although could have given Sam a strai...
by Toro
Sun Oct 29, 2023 10:03 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Wayne Barnes receive death threats
Replies: 81
Views: 2194

Re: Wayne Barnes receive death threats

Very sad, unfortunately social media lets some very angry uneducated people put the first silly thought that comes to their head out there for everyone to see.

Some people take this stuff way too seriously.
by Toro
Sun Oct 29, 2023 9:48 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: World Rugby Awards 2023 - Winners
Replies: 114
Views: 2703

Re: World Rugby Awards 2023 - Nominees

:lol: What a kick in the balls to SA :thumbdown: Still, they have the Cup and that's what matters. Disrespectful against Savea, he has been immense. I think you can argue coach of the year. If NZ won the World Cup back to back, didn't get the coach award, didn't get the player award and had one pla...
by Toro
Sun Oct 29, 2023 9:07 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: 2023 Rugby World Cup Final Match Thread - NZ Vs South Africa
Replies: 2845
Views: 44524

Re: 2023 Rugby World Cup Final Match Thread - NZ Vs South Africa

FInally back in Málaga after not much sleep and a rough hangover. Tough one to swallow but watching live thought some players just weren't on their game mentally. Jordan was very very poor, he hardly chased kicks seems to become a bit sully when the game doesn't go his way. Lineouts killed us. The B...
by Toro
Sun Oct 29, 2023 12:41 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Congratulations South Africa
Replies: 66
Views: 1439

Re: Congratulations South Africa

Just popping in!

Still partying with the saffers!

Congrats, great winners and fans.

We weren’t good enough, but proud of the fight shown. 💪💪
by Toro
Fri Oct 27, 2023 10:25 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: 2023 Rugby World Cup Final Match Thread - NZ Vs South Africa
Replies: 2845
Views: 44524

Re: 2023 Rugby World Cup Final Match Thread - NZ Vs South Africa

Arrived in Par-eeee and much dryer than I was expecting!
by Toro
Fri Oct 27, 2023 10:02 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Tom Curry accuses Mbonambi of racial abuse
Replies: 1295
Views: 26158

Re: Tom Curry accuses Mbonambi of racial abuse

How’s the witch hunt going?
by Toro
Thu Oct 26, 2023 6:13 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: 2023 Rugby World Cup Final Match Thread - NZ Vs South Africa
Replies: 2845
Views: 44524

Re: 2023 Rugby World Cup Final Match Thread - NZ Vs South Africa

Flockwitt wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 6:07 pm Well everybody needs a bit of luck to get a RWC win, and Foster's is having pretty much his best squad available for the final. Here's hoping they can get the job done. :thumbup:
Yep! :o
by Toro
Thu Oct 26, 2023 6:08 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Tom Curry accuses Mbonambi of racial abuse
Replies: 1295
Views: 26158

Re: Tom Curry accuses Mbonambi of racial abuse

Oh look...England has just been hammered by SL and effectively knocked out of the cricket world cup today - karma for the likes of Keith et al. Your homework is to reread the messages from Mog and Toro on this thread and try to absorb something! Look closer to home fella. It's your hooker that's th...
by Toro
Thu Oct 26, 2023 6:04 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: 2023 Rugby World Cup Final Match Thread - NZ Vs South Africa
Replies: 2845
Views: 44524

Re: 2023 Rugby World Cup Final Match Thread - NZ Vs South Africa

So Kiwi's - you're not scoring 3 tries in first 30 min, so how panicked will you lot be with let's say a three-point score difference at halftime with no Bok injuries? Not panicked at all. We will make your backline defend a lot so I think the last 20 will be really interesting. You may get some sc...
by Toro
Thu Oct 26, 2023 10:20 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: 2023 Rugby World Cup Final Match Thread - NZ Vs South Africa
Replies: 2845
Views: 44524

Re: 2023 Rugby World Cup Final Match Thread - NZ Vs South Africa

Chilli wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 10:16 am
Every time someone mentions the Boks then Bungle says that we only ever had easy draws at the WC etc etc.
He is obsessed with it.
He seems to get massive bites every time though you must admit. ;)
by Toro
Thu Oct 26, 2023 9:44 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Tom Curry accuses Mbonambi of racial abuse
Replies: 1295
Views: 26158

Re: Tom Curry accuses Mbonambi of racial abuse

Not really sure what you're responding to, no matter which way you spin it there aren't different categories of white in any social constructs of race. Some social constructs of race extended to discriminating between different categories of whites where some whites were considered better than othe...
by Toro
Thu Oct 26, 2023 9:37 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: 2023 Rugby World Cup Final Match Thread - NZ Vs South Africa
Replies: 2845
Views: 44524

Re: 2023 Rugby World Cup Final Match Thread - NZ Vs South Africa

Nepo makes sense, he's a unit and solid srummager. In an open game his lack of agility and awareness makes him a weakness in defence, but in this type of game he came put in some big hits (hopefully legal as he's had his brainfarts in the past)

If they pass him the ball he will drop it.
by Toro
Thu Oct 26, 2023 9:34 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: 2023 Rugby World Cup Final Match Thread - NZ Vs South Africa
Replies: 2845
Views: 44524

Re: 2023 Rugby World Cup Final Match Thread - NZ Vs South Africa

Hinton has guessed right the last two matches... https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby-world-cup-2023/300996939/rugby-world-cup-all-blacks-poised-to-upsize-bench-unit-for-final-against-springboks Laulala is ok if you don’t pass him the ball. He’s only there to scrum. I’d rather have Coles there thoug...
by Toro
Thu Oct 26, 2023 9:33 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: 2023 Rugby World Cup Final Match Thread - NZ Vs South Africa
Replies: 2845
Views: 44524

Re: 2023 Rugby World Cup Final Match Thread - NZ Vs South Africa

:twisted: SA have played there hand... lets see if the AB's respond in kind. There's going to be a lot of 'South African timeouts' with water bottles and fatties lying on the ground sucking in the big ones. At the Twickenham game, most of the breaks were due to the ABs. Haha yep, if the 7-1 does it...
by Toro
Thu Oct 26, 2023 9:24 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Tom Curry accuses Mbonambi of racial abuse
Replies: 1295
Views: 26158

Re: Tom Curry accuses Mbonambi of racial abuse

There were different categories in Australia, US, UK and Nazi Germany. Probably other places too. Maybe when race was loosely used to describe what soon became ethnicity. What different categories did they have? There were five when the first concept appeared. Well you mentioned 'different categori...
by Toro
Thu Oct 26, 2023 8:29 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Tom Curry accuses Mbonambi of racial abuse
Replies: 1295
Views: 26158

Re: Tom Curry accuses Mbonambi of racial abuse

Not really sure what you're responding to, no matter which way you spin it there aren't different categories of white in any social constructs of race. There were different categories in Australia, US, UK and Nazi Germany. Probably other places too. Maybe when race was loosely used to describe what...
by Toro
Thu Oct 26, 2023 8:11 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: 2023 Rugby World Cup Final Match Thread - NZ Vs South Africa
Replies: 2845
Views: 44524

Re: 2023 Rugby World Cup Final Match Thread - NZ Vs South Africa

Who's the scrum-half cover? Kolbe? All Blacks will be targeting Faf all day long I doubt it, I'd be getting those centres tired and targeting Pollard on attack. Deliberately trying to injure a player... what happened to the no dickheads policy? How it targeting someone in attack trying to injure th...
by Toro
Thu Oct 26, 2023 8:00 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: 2023 Rugby World Cup Final Match Thread - NZ Vs South Africa
Replies: 2845
Views: 44524

Re: 2023 Rugby World Cup Final Match Thread - NZ Vs South Africa

openclashXX wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 7:56 am Who's the scrum-half cover? Kolbe?

All Blacks will be targeting Faf all day long
I doubt it, I'd be getting those centres tired and targeting Pollard on attack.
by Toro
Thu Oct 26, 2023 7:55 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Tom Curry accuses Mbonambi of racial abuse
Replies: 1295
Views: 26158

Re: Tom Curry accuses Mbonambi of racial abuse

Who decides that? Probably news to Indians, Indigenous Australians etc. Well again, Race is a (western) social construct so not really based on anything but what some people at some stage decided to identify as similarities. It's not really. The example you gave is only a concept and definition in ...
by Toro
Thu Oct 26, 2023 12:24 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Tom Curry accuses Mbonambi of racial abuse
Replies: 1295
Views: 26158

Re: Tom Curry accuses Mbonambi of racial abuse

It's appears you have taken Spain as normal for everywhere else or that it's acceptable or correct to do so. As for your statistics, it's not surprising given 95% of murders are commited by somebody close to the victim. But homicides area small number of domestic violence cases. Also I've already s...
by Toro
Thu Oct 26, 2023 12:18 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Tom Curry accuses Mbonambi of racial abuse
Replies: 1295
Views: 26158

Re: Tom Curry accuses Mbonambi of racial abuse

Well again, Race is a (western) social construct so not really based on anything but what some people at some stage decided to identify as similarities. Race clearly isn't a social construct . When native americans saw white people, they may not have used the same term but they certainly saw them a...
by Toro
Thu Oct 26, 2023 12:16 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Tom Curry accuses Mbonambi of racial abuse
Replies: 1295
Views: 26158

Re: Tom Curry accuses Mbonambi of racial abuse

Serbians and Bosnians can say what they want, they might hate each other but even though race is a social construct it's limited to American Indian or Alaska Native, Asian, Black or African American, Native Hawaiian or Other Pacific Islander. Of course the Jews are a bit of an anomaly, and I'd also...
by Toro
Thu Oct 26, 2023 12:08 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Tom Curry accuses Mbonambi of racial abuse
Replies: 1295
Views: 26158

Re: Tom Curry accuses Mbonambi of racial abuse

Who decides that? Probably news to Indians, Indigenous Australians etc. Well again, Race is a (western) social construct so not really based on anything but what some people at some stage decided to identify as similarities. Race clearly isn't a social construct . When native americans saw white pe...
by Toro
Thu Oct 26, 2023 12:05 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Tom Curry accuses Mbonambi of racial abuse
Replies: 1295
Views: 26158

Re: Tom Curry accuses Mbonambi of racial abuse

It's appears you have taken Spain as normal for everywhere else or that it's acceptable or correct to do so. As for your statistics, it's not surprising given 95% of murders are commited by somebody close to the victim. But homicides area small number of domestic violence cases. Also I've already s...
by Toro
Wed Oct 25, 2023 11:52 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Tom Curry accuses Mbonambi of racial abuse
Replies: 1295
Views: 26158

Re: Tom Curry accuses Mbonambi of racial abuse

Zakar wrote: Wed Oct 25, 2023 11:46 pm Who decides that? Probably news to Indians, Indigenous Australians etc.
Well again, Race is a (western) social construct so not really based on anything but what some people at some stage decided to identify as similarities.
by Toro
Wed Oct 25, 2023 11:34 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Tom Curry accuses Mbonambi of racial abuse
Replies: 1295
Views: 26158

Re: Tom Curry accuses Mbonambi of racial abuse

The phrase reverse racism is rubbish. It's either racism or it's not. What about in countries with a tiny white minority particularly ones that haven't had widespread colonisation (or any at all)? No "institutionalised forms of systemic racism and racial hierarchies, injustices and power imbalance....
by Toro
Wed Oct 25, 2023 10:26 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Tom Curry accuses Mbonambi of racial abuse
Replies: 1295
Views: 26158

Re: Tom Curry accuses Mbonambi of racial abuse

If it's not racist why does it need condemnation? You're just going round in circles mate, you've tried this already. The same way racial discrimination can be experienced by white people but isn't considered racism. Prejudice and discrimination are inherently tied to historically rooted and entren...
by Toro
Wed Oct 25, 2023 10:11 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Tom Curry accuses Mbonambi of racial abuse
Replies: 1295
Views: 26158

Re: Tom Curry accuses Mbonambi of racial abuse

Topper is Pauline Hansen and I get the xmas hamper!
by Toro
Wed Oct 25, 2023 10:09 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Tom Curry accuses Mbonambi of racial abuse
Replies: 1295
Views: 26158

Re: Tom Curry accuses Mbonambi of racial abuse

message #2527204 wrote: Wed Oct 25, 2023 9:54 pm We're now all agreed that if he said what's been suggested, it was unacceptable.

No-one called him racist.
I've said that from the start.
by Toro
Wed Oct 25, 2023 9:06 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Tom Curry accuses Mbonambi of racial abuse
Replies: 1295
Views: 26158

Re: Tom Curry accuses Mbonambi of racial abuse

Yet you have not condemned the racist remark that Mbonambi is alleged to have made. Condemn it and I'll apologise. I have condemned the alleged remark, it's only the definition of a social construct that I've continued to debate. I don't need your apology Keith. I trust you'll read up a bit more on...
by Toro
Wed Oct 25, 2023 8:44 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Tom Curry accuses Mbonambi of racial abuse
Replies: 1295
Views: 26158

Re: Tom Curry accuses Mbonambi of racial abuse

You have done nothing but argue in favour of racism, plus a few other batshit things. That's very strange take Keith. Name one thing I've said in favour of racism. I've done nothing but challenge the concept of reverse racism from the very start. I've never said I was ok with Curry being called a w...
by Toro
Wed Oct 25, 2023 8:39 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Tom Curry accuses Mbonambi of racial abuse
Replies: 1295
Views: 26158

Re: Tom Curry accuses Mbonambi of racial abuse

The only one arguing against racism here is me, you seem to be a big fan. Christ and you think I'm all tied up in knots. You have done nothing but argue for reverse racism and you don't even realise it. What on earth would have you believe I'm a big fan of racism when I'm so against the term being ...
by Toro
Wed Oct 25, 2023 8:22 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Tom Curry accuses Mbonambi of racial abuse
Replies: 1295
Views: 26158

Re: Tom Curry accuses Mbonambi of racial abuse

The only one arguing against racism here is me, you seem to be a big fan. Christ and you think I'm all tied up in knots. You have done nothing but argue for reverse racism and you don't even realise it. What on earth would have you believe I'm a big fan of racism when I'm so against the term being ...
by Toro
Wed Oct 25, 2023 7:51 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Tom Curry accuses Mbonambi of racial abuse
Replies: 1295
Views: 26158

Re: Tom Curry accuses Mbonambi of racial abuse

Reverse racism? You've gone through the looking glass Haha I'll take that as a no. :thumbup: Might wanna find that off ramp you were talking about. The only one arguing against racism here is me, you seem to be a big fan. Christ and you think I'm all tied up in knots. You have done nothing but argu...
by Toro
Wed Oct 25, 2023 7:41 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Tom Curry accuses Mbonambi of racial abuse
Replies: 1295
Views: 26158

Re: Tom Curry accuses Mbonambi of racial abuse

There are you go again. It doesn't matter if 99.99% of women are killed at the hands of men, you take each case on an individual basis. So yes, you should believe me. If my brother said his wife punched him in the mouth I'd take that just as seriously if it was my sister. Abuse is abuse. Period. An...
by Toro
Wed Oct 25, 2023 7:03 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Tom Curry accuses Mbonambi of racial abuse
Replies: 1295
Views: 26158

Re: Tom Curry accuses Mbonambi of racial abuse

Not ones with a political agenda, no. You're dismissing all academic writing on racism as being invalid because it all has a political agenda? :lol: You do realise you are arguing for reverse racism which has long been a political agenda of the far right? Reverse racism? You've gone through the loo...
by Toro
Wed Oct 25, 2023 6:57 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Tom Curry accuses Mbonambi of racial abuse
Replies: 1295
Views: 26158

Re: Tom Curry accuses Mbonambi of racial abuse

Opinion v truth As if a definition of a social construct, published by a dictionary, wasn't decided on by using people's opinions. :yawn: Not ones with a political agenda, no. You're dismissing all academic writing on racism as being invalid because it all has a political agenda? :lol: You do reali...
by Toro
Wed Oct 25, 2023 6:05 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Tom Curry accuses Mbonambi of racial abuse
Replies: 1295
Views: 26158

Re: Tom Curry accuses Mbonambi of racial abuse

Oh no, there's no need to win anything when your argument is so patently stupid, you defeated yourself long ago. I was just pointing out another one of your many inconsistencies. Your argument is as leaky as a Kevin Sinfield defensive system. There are mountains of literature on what I'm talking ab...