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by hermie
Fri Apr 19, 2024 12:58 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
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Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Porterbelly1 wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 12:55 pm Jack Boyle going to Munster?
Where'd you see that?
by hermie
Fri Apr 19, 2024 12:46 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Replies: 528134
Views: 28740017

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

15: Ciarán Frawley (82) 14: Rob Russell (28) 13: Liam Turner (27) 12: Charlie Ngatai (22) 11: Andrew Osborne (1) 10: Harry Byrne (64) 9: Luke McGrath (206) 1: Cian Healy (273) 2: Lee Barron (16) 3: Thomas Clarkson (36) 4: Brian Deeny (16) 5: Jason Jenkins (34) 6: Diarmuid Mangan (1) 7: Scott Penny ...
by hermie
Fri Apr 19, 2024 11:15 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
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Views: 28740017

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Son-Of-Ulster wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 11:07 am The performance last weekend also put an end to the notion that James Ryan going off injured lost Leinster the final.

It had an impact no doubt, but La Rochelle just stepped up a gear that Leinster couldn’t match at the time.
Don't know about that. The emergence of Joe McCarthy has been massive.
by hermie
Fri Apr 19, 2024 10:46 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Jordie Barrett to Leinster !
Replies: 195
Views: 4791

Re: Jordie Barrett to Leinster !

Hika Reid, who was apparently an All Black, use to coach in Portadown college I think. Myself and a few others from the club was told to go to Belfast for some reason, Hika Reid took us for a few training sessions. Gary Longwell was there, Brian mclaaughlin was walking about, Niall Annett was very ...
by hermie
Fri Apr 19, 2024 10:44 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Jordie Barrett to Leinster !
Replies: 195
Views: 4791

Re: Jordie Barrett to Leinster !

The draft system is a daft idea. Young lads will be shipped off to the four corners of Ireland when they just want to stay in Dublin with their mates, say fudge this and go to France. Also it will dilute provincial identity which is diluted enough as it is. I find the Kiwi system crazy. The three B...
by hermie
Fri Apr 19, 2024 10:38 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Jordie Barrett to Leinster !
Replies: 195
Views: 4791

Re: Jordie Barrett to Leinster !

The draft system is a daft idea. Young lads will be shipped off to the four corners of Ireland when they just want to stay in Dublin with their mates, say fudge this and go to France. Also it will dilute provincial identity which is diluted enough as it is. I find the Kiwi system crazy. The three B...
by hermie
Fri Apr 19, 2024 9:15 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Jordie Barrett to Leinster !
Replies: 195
Views: 4791

Re: Jordie Barrett to Leinster !

The draft system is a daft idea. Young lads will be shipped off to the four corners of Ireland when they just want to stay in Dublin with their mates, say fudge this and go to France. Also it will dilute provincial identity which is diluted enough as it is. I find the Kiwi system crazy. The three Ba...
by hermie
Fri Apr 19, 2024 8:53 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Replies: 528134
Views: 28740017

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

irishrugbyua wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 8:46 am ROG on OTB this morning, sour out and throwing barbs at leinster and leinster fans as to be expected.

:lol:
Really? What did he say? He has been fairly gracious up to now.
by hermie
Thu Apr 18, 2024 6:22 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Replies: 528134
Views: 28740017

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Why are Ulster suddenly incapable of producing players? The 2010s had a shit tonne of backs. They still have good backs. Good on paper, none of them are really fulfilling their potential bar McCloskey. Balacoune must be one of the biggest disappointments in recent years. Could have been top class. ...
by hermie
Thu Apr 18, 2024 2:29 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: URCR14 Lions vs Leinster
Replies: 8
Views: 277

Re: URCR14 Lions vs Leinster

It's a total mystery. Hopefully some of those nearing full fitness - such as JOB, Ngatai, Ringrose - make it back.
by hermie
Wed Apr 17, 2024 12:19 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Replies: 528134
Views: 28740017

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

For about the hundredth time, publicly funded schools elsewhere in Ireland cannot put the same level of funding into rugby as the schools in Dublin do, the money isn't there. And no it didn't happen overnight but it's not a surprise that it started about 10 years after professionalism as Leinster's...
by hermie
Wed Apr 17, 2024 11:59 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Jordie Barrett to Leinster !
Replies: 195
Views: 4791

Re: Jordie Barrett to Leinster !

leinster the new toulon.so many internationals but need more. wheres he even going to play when you have keenan at FB and henshaw/ringrose at centre-wing? Leinster are limited to 3 overseas signings and only in certain positions. Nothing like Toulon, Toulouse, Saracens, Racing, La Rochelle etc. Eve...
by hermie
Wed Apr 17, 2024 11:46 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Replies: 528134
Views: 28740017

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Hard to get your act together when one province has nearly double the budget of any of the others and they are haemorrhaging players while said province with the big budget stockpiles them And the Leinster schools system is a massive advantage, why do you think the other squads have loads of guys w...
by hermie
Wed Apr 17, 2024 11:09 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Replies: 528134
Views: 28740017

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Leinster have a smaller senior squad though with a bigger academy. Also it's not like the Leinster academy only provides for Leinster. Leinster have a 44 man senior squad containing 26 Irish internationals (21 of whom have been involved with Ireland in the past year) and 3 capped NIQs, Leinster are...
by hermie
Wed Apr 17, 2024 11:08 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Replies: 528134
Views: 28740017

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Leinster have a smaller senior squad though with a bigger academy. Also it's not like the Leinster academy only provides for Leinster. Leinster have a 44 man senior squad containing 26 Irish internationals (21 of whom have been involved with Ireland in the past year) and 3 capped NIQs, Leinster are...
by hermie
Wed Apr 17, 2024 10:57 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Replies: 528134
Views: 28740017

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Thats a big one Joey and I'd agree it's whats most important, for instance the IRFU haven't and apparently won't fund a single penny of Connachts Facility, which is unbelievable if you Consider that this is the only centre/HPU for an entire province. Not saying that's right but wasn't Leinster's HP...
by hermie
Wed Apr 17, 2024 10:43 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Replies: 528134
Views: 28740017

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

The solution is simple. Munster, Ulster, and, to a lesser extent, Connacht need to get their acts together. This. Leinster can probably help. As has been suggested, there ought to be some sharing of IP between the provinces, and no, Leinster’s big advantage isn’t having some fancy private schools. ...
by hermie
Wed Apr 17, 2024 10:40 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Replies: 528134
Views: 28740017

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

But I'm not suggesting a side pays a significant amount. Going on Thornley's article, the IRFU pay a certain amount of every contract anyway. So taking Aki and assuming a 500k salary. He'd be top tier so that leaves 390k. Connacht pay, let's say, 90k, IRFU 300k. But an even fairer solution might be...
by hermie
Wed Apr 17, 2024 10:37 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Replies: 528134
Views: 28740017

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

The solution is simple. Munster, Ulster, and, to a lesser extent, Connacht need to get their acts together. This. Leinster can probably help. As has been suggested, there ought to be some sharing of IP between the provinces, and no, Leinster’s big advantage isn’t having some fancy private schools. ...
by hermie
Wed Apr 17, 2024 10:31 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Replies: 528134
Views: 28740017

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Aki's contract would be approx 1/10 of Connachts budget for the next couple of seasons. anything like what you're suggesting would have to weighted against what the province takes in-in revenue But I'm not suggesting a side pays a significant amount. Going on Thornley's article, the IRFU pay a cert...
by hermie
Wed Apr 17, 2024 8:59 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Replies: 528134
Views: 28740017

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Thanks for posting Conn. Very interesting. In the dark days of MOC who would have foreseen this for Leinster?? Although Henderson being the only centrally contracted player 'produced' from one of the other three really doesn't underpin all the moaning.
by hermie
Wed Apr 17, 2024 8:22 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Replies: 528134
Views: 28740017

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Mr. Very Popular wrote: Wed Apr 17, 2024 8:20 am
Nolanator wrote: Tue Apr 16, 2024 10:50 pm
triplebogey wrote: Tue Apr 16, 2024 9:55 pm

That's the spirit.
Rugby in Ireland is dying. Leinster subsisting on Munster scraps.
They'll be digging up Axel next.
We already did that recently with "nobody beats Leinster four times in a row".
by hermie
Wed Apr 17, 2024 8:20 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Replies: 528134
Views: 28740017

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

JGP getting onto a central deal - GT long overdue. Which players are currently on central contracts? We know Doris and Sheehan are the recent ones. Presumably Furlong, Porter, JvdF, Ringrose and Henshaw as well? Ryan and Keenan? Would Gibson-Park make it 10? I think the central contracts are: Ulste...
by hermie
Wed Apr 17, 2024 8:03 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Replies: 528134
Views: 28740017

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

irishrugbyua wrote: Wed Apr 17, 2024 7:46 am JGP getting onto a central deal - GT

long overdue.
Which players are currently on central contracts? We know Doris and Sheehan are the recent ones. Presumably Furlong, Porter, JvdF, Ringrose and Henshaw as well? Ryan and Keenan? Would Gibson-Park make it 10?
by hermie
Wed Apr 17, 2024 7:52 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Jordie Barrett to Leinster !
Replies: 195
Views: 4791

Re: Jordie Barrett to Leinster !

Did ya have to nick our Attack Coach as well? Hurricanes assistant coach Tyler Blyendaal joins All Black Jordie Barrett at Leinster https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350247881/hurricanes-assistant-coach-tyler-blyendaal-joins-all-black-jordie-barrett-leinster Sorry. I was sure Mike Prendergast would get...
by hermie
Tue Apr 16, 2024 6:00 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Replies: 528134
Views: 28740017

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

The last few days on this thread have been epic. Leinster do have certain advantages but they are, by some distance, the best run province. The role Mick Dawson played in changing Irish rugby cannot be overstated. Would Leinster have offered JVG a contract extension? Would they prefer Kleyn to Snym...
by hermie
Tue Apr 16, 2024 1:22 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Jordie Barrett to Leinster !
Replies: 195
Views: 4791

Re: Jordie Barrett to Leinster !

It's only 6 months. People are losing their shit over not all that much. He'll probably be on less than what Charlie Ngatai is currently on for a season and will most likely play more given how much Ngatai has been injured. Henshaw and Ringrose are both fairly injury prone also. Can't wait to see hi...
by hermie
Mon Apr 15, 2024 6:27 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Replies: 528134
Views: 28740017

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Floppykid wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 6:09 pm
irishrugbyua wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 6:08 pm
Floppykid wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 6:05 pm Kind of a signal to Frawley to look elsewhere imo.
why? he is a short term signing for 6 months.
You're right it's actually an endorsement of Frawley.
Or they're finally going to look at him properly as a 10 :nod:
by hermie
Mon Apr 15, 2024 6:26 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Heineken cup quarter final - Leinster vs La Rochelle
Replies: 576
Views: 6417

Re: Heineken cup quarter final - Leinster vs La Rochelle

I went through it again, Leinster conceded 7 penalties in the last ~15 mins, La Rochelle (I think) conceded 0 penalties in the last 15. Were 4 of those were in the scrum? Either way we've never gotten the better of the penalty count against LaR and that remains the case. Having watched most of it b...
by hermie
Mon Apr 15, 2024 6:25 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Replies: 528134
Views: 28740017

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

irishrugbyua wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 6:18 pm 200k for 6 months according to GT
Bit of a Brad Thorn signing so. Could well be injuries that need supplementing by the time he arrives. If he arrives in good nick himself of course.
by hermie
Mon Apr 15, 2024 6:24 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Replies: 528134
Views: 28740017

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

ABs cynically trying to pilfer IP from Jacques Nienaber. Sleeper agent
by hermie
Mon Apr 15, 2024 6:22 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Replies: 528134
Views: 28740017

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Floppykid wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 6:16 pm Most of the footage in Leinsters promo was Jordie at 15. Just saying.
I did notice that actually. 12 is his best position though. Also Hugo Keenan.
by hermie
Mon Apr 15, 2024 5:44 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Replies: 528134
Views: 28740017

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

irishrugbyua wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 5:42 pm seemingly the tyler b rumour true too, to replace Goodman.
I suppose him and Jordie know each other from the Hurricanes. Coaches often bring players such as Jacques and RG.
by hermie
Mon Apr 15, 2024 5:41 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Replies: 528134
Views: 28740017

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

irishrugbyua wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 5:38 pm RG Snyman and Jordie Barrett for one season. :lol:
And Tupou as well :P
by hermie
Mon Apr 15, 2024 5:40 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Replies: 528134
Views: 28740017

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Would be weird alright. Although he's fairly like for like with Ngatai in that he's primarily a 12 who can cover across the backline but hard to see it sanctioned. It could stunt the growth of a player like Osborne who has a very high ceiling. Ireland do have options at 12 but they're all in their ...
by hermie
Mon Apr 15, 2024 5:35 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Replies: 528134
Views: 28740017

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Jordie Barrett would be such a weird signing, he'd be a guaranteed starter and you've Ireland internationals galore to pick from in his positions Would be weird alright. Although he's fairly like for like with Ngatai in that he's primarily a 12 who can cover across the backline but hard to see it s...
by hermie
Mon Apr 15, 2024 5:31 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Heineken cup quarter final - Leinster vs La Rochelle
Replies: 576
Views: 6417

Re: Heineken cup quarter final - Leinster vs La Rochelle

I am not going to go and check but I feel Leinster gave away 4 or 5 penalties in the last few mins when the game was long and truly dead. There was definitely some ledger-balancing and favoring of the losing side in the final 10-15. There were a couple calls in the first half when the game was stil...
by hermie
Mon Apr 15, 2024 5:27 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Heineken cup quarter final - Leinster vs La Rochelle
Replies: 576
Views: 6417

Re: Heineken cup quarter final - Leinster vs La Rochelle

I didnt join in the booing of ROG Wouldn't give him the satisfaction. It was all pantomime stuff and he will have lapped it up Nor did I and it was. But I think Leinster supporters were just consciously trying to make themselves heard at every opportunity. Not unlike the players, the supporters hav...
by hermie
Mon Apr 15, 2024 5:22 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Replies: 528134
Views: 28740017

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Tyler Bleyendaal a coach of interest for Leinster according to Jackman. Jordie Barrett also being linked with Leinster in latest 42 rugby weekly. Jordie Barrett would be such a weird signing, he'd be a guaranteed starter and you've Ireland internationals galore to pick from in his positions Would b...
by hermie
Mon Apr 15, 2024 2:39 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Replies: 528134
Views: 28740017

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

triplebogey wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 2:37 pm RO'C talking about Leinster on Second Captains today:

"A month ago they looked like beaten dockets"

What, the actual fudge, is he talking about?
I used to think he was alright but he's for the bird lately.