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by Fat Old Git
Sat Dec 30, 2023 10:31 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Israel declares state of war
Replies: 8587
Views: 270170

Re: Israel declares state of war

Jesus Jammy what on earth is wrong with you ? What an absolutely meaningless waste of time post, how about highlighting the bits of what I’ve said you disagree with, then we can have a discussion. Not his style. FOG will give it a go but he also lives in a land where they have magic bombs and bulle...
by Fat Old Git
Sat Dec 30, 2023 8:10 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: U.S. politics thread and Joe Biden-the Ronan O'Gara of U.S. Presidents
Replies: 18091
Views: 819342

Re: U.S. politics thread and Joe Biden-the Ronan O'Gara of U.S. Presidents

Should also be noted that Biden saying he will implement some of the Republican demands on border control in exchange for continued support for Ukraine as frightened a lot of people into coming now for fear the situation will change in the near future and they'll miss their chance. So a surge isn't ...
by Fat Old Git
Sat Dec 30, 2023 8:04 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Israel declares state of war
Replies: 8587
Views: 270170

Re: Israel declares state of war

FFS jammy, I even gave you some examples. I'm not going to keep repeating myself or rehash the entire discussion because you don't want to believe the answers. You can look up the answers to most of those quite frankly bimbo level questions yourself. Your "outside of Hollywood" comment really was th...
by Fat Old Git
Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:25 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Israel declares state of war
Replies: 8587
Views: 270170

Re: Israel declares state of war

Except plans have been put forward multiple times, and have included things like. - treat Hamas as a criminal organisation and go after them using suitable tactics for that. Think the US and drug cartels for example, or the UK vs the IRA. - Using appropriate munitions and tactics to genuinely minimi...
by Fat Old Git
Thu Dec 28, 2023 3:39 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Israel declares state of war
Replies: 8587
Views: 270170

Re: Israel declares state of war

We'd look really sensible if you were further away from us...
by Fat Old Git
Thu Dec 28, 2023 1:00 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Israel declares state of war
Replies: 8587
Views: 270170

Re: Israel declares state of war

Bimbot can see Gaza from the basement of his mum's flat in London don't you know. It's only about 3600km away after all.
by Fat Old Git
Tue Dec 26, 2023 3:25 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Israel declares state of war
Replies: 8587
Views: 270170

Re: Israel declares state of war

Nothing to hide. No siree... The Committee to Protect Journalists has accused the Israeli military of targeting journalists and their families in Gaza amid the highest death toll of media workers in any recent conflict. The New York-based CPJ said at least 68 journalists and other media workers had ...
by Fat Old Git
Mon Dec 25, 2023 2:14 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: NZ Politics Thread
Replies: 51885
Views: 3456075

Re: NZ Politics Thread

Have a great Saturnalia one and all!
by Fat Old Git
Sun Dec 24, 2023 8:41 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Israel declares state of war
Replies: 8587
Views: 270170

Re: Israel declares state of war

Do you really think Israel feel an existential threat from the Palestinians? And are afraid of being wiped out? They have one of the most powerful militaries in the region, are backed by the world's most powerful super power, and are strongly rumoured to have nukes themselves. Covid killed far more ...
by Fat Old Git
Sun Dec 24, 2023 7:05 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Israel declares state of war
Replies: 8587
Views: 270170

Re: Israel declares state of war

How can you be sure they aren’t sympathisers to the cause? You talked earlier about giving control back to the Palestinians, what, in your honest opinion, would be the end result of that control and why do you think the Israelis maintain such tight control, is it because they’re control freaks? Are...
by Fat Old Git
Sun Dec 24, 2023 5:27 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Israel declares state of war
Replies: 8587
Views: 270170

Re: Israel declares state of war

I am coming to the conclusion that some of those 10,000 km from the Mid East are just seriously missing actual history and context, this isn’t really even a criticism anymore , just a bit sad, I think this the second time you've mentioned the distance to NZ as if it means something. This may come a...
by Fat Old Git
Sun Dec 24, 2023 4:57 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Israel declares state of war
Replies: 8587
Views: 270170

Re: Israel declares state of war

"Do you really think the vast majority of Palestinians don't want a genuine opportunity for themselves and their children to enjoy the same freedoms and opportunities for prosperity that most of the rest of us to get to enjoy? That they see revenge for their grievances and the destruction of Israel...
by Fat Old Git
Sun Dec 24, 2023 3:38 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: U.S. politics thread and Joe Biden-the Ronan O'Gara of U.S. Presidents
Replies: 18091
Views: 819342

Re: U.S. politics thread and Joe Biden-the Ronan O'Gara of U.S. Presidents

Ted. wrote: Sun Dec 24, 2023 12:42 am Some people are so determined top be dumb. They make it their life work.

https://twitter.com/quirkytwerp/status/ ... 5404528966
It's scary how many people seem to lack the capability for truely rational thought.
by Fat Old Git
Sun Dec 24, 2023 3:29 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Israel declares state of war
Replies: 8587
Views: 270170

Re: Israel declares state of war

You live in some sort of leftist alternative reality. That's pretty unlikely now given the atrocities committed by Hamas. Butcher civilians and we'll negotiate with the terrorists? Why would you negotiate with the terrorists? There are plenty of other Palestinians groups that could be negotiated wi...
by Fat Old Git
Sun Dec 24, 2023 3:12 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Israel declares state of war
Replies: 8587
Views: 270170

Re: Israel declares state of war

That’s the hamas charter in place when you claimed they offered a better outcome with Israel. It’s perfectly in context. You’re seriously misunderstanding everything about hamas. It’s in context and relevant to your claim of how they were viewed. Feel free to post some links to how that's what they...
by Fat Old Git
Sat Dec 23, 2023 11:44 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Israel declares state of war
Replies: 8587
Views: 270170

Re: Israel declares state of war

Holy fudge! You actually believe this don’t you ? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1988_Hamas_charter Holy fudge, fancy believing something that's true and well documented! But thanks for the out of context link. It's OK, we hadn't forgotten you're a dishonest troll doing their best to come accross as...
by Fat Old Git
Sat Dec 23, 2023 10:57 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Israel declares state of war
Replies: 8587
Views: 270170

Re: Israel declares state of war

Which is one of the reasons Hamas came to power as their political wing campaigned on change offering less corruption and a better outcome with Israel. Holy fudge! You actually believe this don’t you ? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1988_Hamas_charter Holy fudge, fancy believing something that's tru...
by Fat Old Git
Sat Dec 23, 2023 10:16 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Israel declares state of war
Replies: 8587
Views: 270170

Re: Israel declares state of war

In the unlikely event Isreal stopped and even dismantled the settlements , I think there’s a very good chance that rocket attacks might cease in exchange. I don’t think you quite realise how much these settlements and their continued expansion are the focus of Palestinian anger . You live in some s...
by Fat Old Git
Sat Dec 23, 2023 10:13 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Israel declares state of war
Replies: 8587
Views: 270170

Re: Israel declares state of war

You seriously think Hezbollah will stop its rocket attacks on Israel if it removed the settlements? You think Hamas will stop its rocket attacks on Israel if it removed the settlements? These Iranian backed organisations give not the slightest shit about the Palestinians. Israel's existence is an a...
by Fat Old Git
Fri Dec 22, 2023 9:30 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Israel declares state of war
Replies: 8587
Views: 270170

Re: Israel declares state of war

I believe the hospital that was most fiercely defended and surrounded by hamas fighters was the Al Quds hospital. Hospitals have no need for munitions, fighters, tunnels, underground cells for prisoners etc. At least most normal hospitals. The burden of proof typically would lie with these idiots ↓...
by Fat Old Git
Fri Dec 22, 2023 9:06 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Israel declares state of war
Replies: 8587
Views: 270170

Re: Israel declares state of war

So because lots of of news agencies have reported the same story that he confessed under interrogation to it being true makes the confession true, rather than just that he confessed under interrogation? Note, we're not doubting he made a confession. In almost every conflict I've ever seen there hav...
by Fat Old Git
Fri Dec 22, 2023 11:19 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: NZ Politics Thread
Replies: 51885
Views: 3456075

Re: NZ Politics Thread

Honestly, stop pretending you're doing it for tenants. No one ever does it, or anything, for tenants, ever. Why don't you stop pretending you know anything about me, how we have treated our tenants, or why we've made the decisions we have. You've shown us time amd time again that you're a clueless ...
by Fat Old Git
Fri Dec 22, 2023 11:10 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Israel declares state of war
Replies: 8587
Views: 270170

Re: Israel declares state of war

So because lots of of news agencies have reported the same story that he confessed under interrogation to it being true makes the confession true, rather than just that he confessed under interrogation? Note, we're not doubting he made a confession. In almost every conflict I've ever seen there have...
by Fat Old Git
Fri Dec 22, 2023 10:57 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: NZ Politics Thread
Replies: 51885
Views: 3456075

Re: NZ Politics Thread

Stop my whinging? I haven't even gotten started yet! :x :P Nor do I have my deductibility back yet to the best of my knowledge. Anyone know when that actually kicks in? I suspect I still have an unpleasant tax bill to pay out of my uncompetitive salary early next year. Sell your rental. Yeah, becau...
by Fat Old Git
Fri Dec 22, 2023 10:51 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Israel declares state of war
Replies: 8587
Views: 270170

Re: Israel declares state of war

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/12/21/al-shifa-hospital-gaza-hamas-israel/ The Post mapped the path of the tunnel by geolocating the excavation sites within al-Shifa and analyzing the videos frame-by-frame to determine the network’s directionality and length. The Post then superimposed th...
by Fat Old Git
Fri Dec 22, 2023 9:30 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Israel declares state of war
Replies: 8587
Views: 270170

Re: Israel declares state of war

The problem is that the fact that no action taken by either side will immediately achieve lasting peace is used as an excuse to not do anything that could eventually move toward it.
by Fat Old Git
Fri Dec 22, 2023 6:14 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: NZ Politics Thread
Replies: 51885
Views: 3456075

Re: NZ Politics Thread

Stop my whinging? I haven't even gotten started yet! :x :P

Nor do I have my deductibility back yet to the best of my knowledge. Anyone know when that actually kicks in? I suspect I still have an unpleasant tax bill to pay out of my uncompetitive salary early next year.
by Fat Old Git
Fri Dec 22, 2023 5:12 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: NZ Politics Thread
Replies: 51885
Views: 3456075

Re: NZ Politics Thread

It's Christmas time and the party he likely gave his party vote to is in government. You would think he would be happy about his lot right now. The man should be having a beer not a whine. While I agree in principle, getting what you want is sadly not the same as getting what you voted for more oft...
by Fat Old Git
Fri Dec 22, 2023 5:02 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: NZ Politics Thread
Replies: 51885
Views: 3456075

Re: NZ Politics Thread

Dear all , I've abstained from comment post-election for the very good reason that in some form I voted for these bastards. Significant amounts of what has posted in recent weeks is justifiable concern for what is to come. It remains to be seen whether ,overall, the things that matter to each of yo...
by Fat Old Git
Thu Dec 21, 2023 2:00 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Israel declares state of war
Replies: 8587
Views: 270170

Re: Israel declares state of war

Thankyou So the report explains what and why, it has little of your speculation though. That's true. The bulldozing is apparently to build defensive mounds of earth in front of advancing troops. That seems logical. If they wanted to intentionally destroy crops and starve the inhabitants they have b...
by Fat Old Git
Thu Dec 21, 2023 1:50 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Israel declares state of war
Replies: 8587
Views: 270170

Re: Israel declares state of war

Any link ? https://www.news.com.au/world/israeli-soldiers-looting-spree-troops-seize-palestinian-belongings/video/ebcb11124d22b8bd59ba8c221e6f1977 So Yuoseff a poor Palestinian has more in his safe than 99% of the world 😂 A shop keeper having around $10K is more than 99% of the world...
by Fat Old Git
Wed Dec 20, 2023 9:02 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Israel declares state of war
Replies: 8587
Views: 270170

Re: Israel declares state of war

Been watching news reports in the amount of damage done to crops and fields in Gaza. Apparently nearly 25% of the arable land has been bulldozed. And infrastructure such as flour mills etc targeted as well. All legit I'm sure and not part of a campaign to use starvation as a weapon of war as claime...
by Fat Old Git
Wed Dec 20, 2023 8:56 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Israel declares state of war
Replies: 8587
Views: 270170

Re: Israel declares state of war

Hamas are conveniently a nation when it comes to responsibilities, but not when it comes to rights. As to holding the people accountable for the crimes of governments, is that all the people, or just the ones who voted for them? If they were lucky enough to get a vote. If only we had some rules of ...
by Fat Old Git
Wed Dec 20, 2023 8:29 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Israel declares state of war
Replies: 8587
Views: 270170

Re: Israel declares state of war

Been watching news reports in the amount of damage done to crops and fields in Gaza. Apparently nearly 25% of the arable land has been bulldozed. And infrastructure such as flour mills etc targeted as well. All legit I'm sure and not part of a campaign to use starvation as a weapon of war as claime...
by Fat Old Git
Wed Dec 20, 2023 8:28 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Israel declares state of war
Replies: 8587
Views: 270170

Re: Israel declares state of war

Lots if disturbing video emerging of the most moral army in the world looting and stealing from the Palestinians. Both in Gaza and the west bank. They would fit in well with the Russian armed forces. Any link ? https://www.news.com.au/world/israeli-soldiers-looting-spree-troops-seize-palestinian-be...
by Fat Old Git
Wed Dec 20, 2023 9:34 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: U.S. politics thread and Joe Biden-the Ronan O'Gara of U.S. Presidents
Replies: 18091
Views: 819342

Re: U.S. politics thread and Joe Biden-the Ronan O'Gara of U.S. Presidents

I see you've mentioned pussies and grabbing in the same post. That's sound a little familiar...
by Fat Old Git
Wed Dec 20, 2023 9:32 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: NZ Politics Thread
Replies: 51885
Views: 3456075

Re: NZ Politics Thread

"Non-frontline" is always interesting. It always sold as things that aren't really that necessary. Yes we need more doctors and nurses. But they're not much good if no one has restocked the pharmacy, paid the bills, tested the diagnostic samples, ordered the test kits, scheduled and organised mainte...
by Fat Old Git
Wed Dec 20, 2023 8:25 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: U.S. politics thread and Joe Biden-the Ronan O'Gara of U.S. Presidents
Replies: 18091
Views: 819342

Re: U.S. politics thread and Joe Biden-the Ronan O'Gara of U.S. Presidents

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump_sexual_misconduct_allegations Donald Trump, the president of the United States from 2017 to 2021, has been accused of rape, sexual assault, and sexual harassment, including non-consensual kissing or groping, by at least 25 women since the 1970s.[1][2] And ...
by Fat Old Git
Wed Dec 20, 2023 12:24 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Israel declares state of war
Replies: 8587
Views: 270170

Re: Israel declares state of war

Hamas are conveniently a nation when it comes to responsibilities, but not when it comes to rights. As to holding the people accountable for the crimes of governments, is that all the people, or just the ones who voted for them? If they were lucky enough to get a vote. If only we had some rules of w...
by Fat Old Git
Tue Dec 19, 2023 11:57 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Israel declares state of war
Replies: 8587
Views: 270170

Re: Israel declares state of war

Been watching news reports in the amount of damage done to crops and fields in Gaza. Apparently nearly 25% of the arable land has been bulldozed. And infrastructure such as flour mills etc targeted as well. All legit I'm sure and not part of a campaign to use starvation as a weapon of war as claimed...