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England just don't have 2 big consecutive games in them.

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fatcat wrote: ↑Sat Mar 20, 2021 8:48 pm
he's not really one for consistently high standard.
Barely any coach is.

Entirely depends on the shit you have to work with. England have enough good shit that there really is no excuse for this 6Ns showing.

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The bit about the '03 Semi's is unfair. The final was against the all time great England side who are generally considered one of the all time great teams. Yet Australia took them to the end of extra time and it took England one of the great all time rugby moments to win it. Likewise the Japan exam...

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Typical Eddie Jones affair ain't it? His teams are not known for consolidating any performance they exhibit on the odd occasion. Good for one off type matches( the semis in '03 and '19, Japan vs SA in'15), everything else is pretty meh. Maybe he'd be better as an assistant rather than a head coach.

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ABs can still win the Bledisloe, got some moving to do though Move the wing back to 15 the 15 back to 10, the 10 to bench, the 8 back to 7, the 7 back to bench, the 13 to 11 , move the bench ALB to 13, move the 14 to bench, bring the bench Caleb R to 14, move the 3 to bench and bench to 3 If above ...

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About goddamn time! The Stomps owed my Blues 1, more than 1 actually.

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They were spent, they do not have 2 big games in them Well that’s not really true now is it. The Boks didn't do anything out of the ordinary for them. No nonsense in their half and played the game in your half. Eddie spoke of taking away their physicality from them and your boys failed to do it cau...

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They were spent, they do not have 2 big games in them

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Solid defence and play in the other half, preferably chasing an up n under, trumps a faltering attempt at 15 man throwing the ball around. Not for the first time. Too many mistakes from England and regularly getting pinged in your own half just gifts points against. England aren't exactly known for...

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Like Gatland said, England player their final last week. Nothing different in how the Boks played, no nonsense in their own half and play the game in the opponents half. Simple and effective, England were just spent after last week's effort with a hint of 'I can't believe we're in the final' mixed ...

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Like Gatland said, England player their final last week. Nothing different in how the Boks played, no nonsense in their own half and play the game in the opponents half. Simple and effective, England were just spent after last week's effort with a hint of 'I can't believe we're in the final' mixed in.

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One huge effort does not a GOAT make

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The facts of the omissions are colder and harder, are you sure this is a good thread idea?

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Man In Black wrote:
Bowtie wrote:This really has been a WC of firsts hasn't it?
A first Asian 1/4 finalist
Home nations first win over the ABs at a WC
A winner that lost a pool game
Anything else?
My favourite is that it wasn’t the first World Cup for John Mitchell.

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This really has been a WC of firsts hasn't it?
A first Asian 1/4 finalist
Home nations first win over the ABs at a WC
A winner that lost a pool game
Anything else?

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The yanks had to flip that blue marble photo upside down because it had the SH at the top when held the right way up

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South Africa making a habit of winning every 3rd WC. My money will be on you in 2031.

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Not to take anything from the Saffa effort, England were completely spent after last week, it was their final. Saffas were fresher coming off their semi. So why do you think England are so weak that they couldn't manage to recover even with an extra days rest? Seems more like an attempt to give NZ ...

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Too relaxed??? Did we play like we were too relaxed from the start? Or did we play like we were incredibly nervous? Nah, you played a bit shit, which was all it took for a clinical Bok to take the prize. It was still a tense game and no forgone conclusion until the last 10, while your team emptied ...

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Should win try of the tournament given its context.

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They're the best resourced country in world rugby, there will be other shots.

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We didn't look up for it from the start, too relaxed if anything That’s what I was thinking. A fuckin disgrace, the lot of them Its as Gatland said,England player their final last week. Nothing to do with not turning up. There was nothing left, tactically or physically. They had one big game in the...

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Not to take anything from the Saffa effort, England were completely spent after last week, it was their final. Saffas were fresher coming off their semi.

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MrDominator wrote:The first team to win an RWC having lost a match in the tournament.

Great mentality.

The Saffa game is very similar to yours, they just do it better. The Saffa fans excitement on here when you knocked Abs out was with good reason.

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England aren't exactly known for scoring tries, so when you fail so spectacularly in the scrum, you're f**ked. There was nothing left after last week too.

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South Africa have made a habit of winning every 3rd World Cup. Pencil them in for 2031.

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Gatland was right, everything went into beating the ABs, there was nothing left. England played their final last week. It wasn't even a contest in the end.

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You're free to do whatever the fark you like during tha haka, as long as you stay behind the 10m line. The ABs themselves cannot advance beyond their 10m line.

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A haka is vital component to the having of aura. Good point. As long as world rugby dictates that every other team simply need to stand and just "take it" while the AB's get all worked up you will have the aura. You're free to do whatever the f uck you like during the haka, as long as it is behind ...

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EverReady wrote:
Bowtie wrote:Are there enough points in this game to get the ABs up to 2nd in the world rankings if they win?
Yep

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Are there enough points in this game to get the ABs up to 2nd in the world rankings if they win?

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Surely they have to lose more than the odd couple of games for the "aura"(however you define it) to be declared dead. Some of the comments on here, you'd think the ABs had never lost a match before or had a bad spell. It's the manner of the victory. People are now wondering if New Zealand are the b...

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Surely they have to lose more than the odd couple of games for the "aura"(however you define it) to be declared dead. Some of the comments on here, you'd think the ABs had never lost a match before or had a bad spell.

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What is his longevity like? Will England look to keep till the next show piece?

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I was going to throw in my hat behind you lot because the idea of an all NH teams final sickens me. But you make me sicker

Go you Crymu!

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New Zealand... Indeed everybody was lead into a mindset that you can win this out with Super Rugby tactics. All we have been hearing is that it's All about passing out of tackles and how the rush defense has been worked out. England actually made serious ground passing out of the tackle and little ...

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The SB at 6 pick didn't surprise me too much but starting Ardie instead of Cane kind of threw me a bit. His bustling style would have been more handy later on in the piece.

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Ted. wrote:Too soon?

No way.

I think it will depend on who he has around him.

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New Zealand... Indeed everybody was lead into a mindset that you can win this out with Super Rugby tactics. All we have been hearing is that it's All about passing out of tackles and how the rush defense has been worked out. England actually made serious ground passing out of the tackle and little ...

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I blame this prick https://resources.stuff.co.nz/content/dam/images/1/x/m/4/7/s/image.related.StuffLandscapeSixteenByNine.1240x700.1xmp8j.png/1572085996017.jpg Here's to hopining it itches and he gets an infection from it. Still wouldn't have changed a thing about the game though, the ABs were neve...

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