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by Rinkals
Mon Jul 13, 2020 5:11 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 126890
Views: 9135841

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

I will give three examples of people who could vote Republican/Trump. First the older people who The Frog mentioned who feel that their savings/shares will do better giving them a better life style. Secondly, the few Russians I chat to at gym, who hate any form of centralized control and government...
by Rinkals
Mon Jul 13, 2020 4:04 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 126890
Views: 9135841

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

I will give three examples of people who could vote Republican/Trump. First the older people who The Frog mentioned who feel that their savings/shares will do better giving them a better life style. Secondly, the few Russians I chat to at gym, who hate any form of centralized control and government...
by Rinkals
Mon Jul 13, 2020 3:27 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: OFFICIAL Brexit Thread
Replies: 41030
Views: 2138950

Re: OFFICIAL Brexit Thread

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/07/10/business/uk-emerging-market/index.html While I do think the article over-eggs the pudding a bit, I do think that it should give pause to those of our number who continue to tout the UK as 4th or 5th biggest economy in the world. Bank of America suggested in a rece...
by Rinkals
Mon Jul 13, 2020 2:50 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: OFFICIAL Brexit Thread
Replies: 41030
Views: 2138950

Re: OFFICIAL Brexit Thread

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/07/10/business/uk-emerging-market/index.html While I do think the article over-eggs the pudding a bit, I do think that it should give pause to those of our number who continue to tout the UK as 4th or 5th biggest economy in the world. Bank of America suggested in a rece...
by Rinkals
Mon Jul 13, 2020 2:16 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: OFFICIAL Brexit Thread
Replies: 41030
Views: 2138950

Re: OFFICIAL Brexit Thread

https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/politics/damian-green-laments-truck-pile-up-in-ashford-twitter-reacts/13/07/?fbclid=IwAR1mLVteCE-GMGqdqHC4Igs68NHfJu44VGVq7KN07BR8UKN04_2K_PsXuIw This made my day, what did the dumb Tory twat actually expect? Sad tw@t He sure is, I hope his constituents remember th...
by Rinkals
Mon Jul 13, 2020 1:50 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 126890
Views: 9135841

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

I've been doing this by trying to explain that when it comes to politics, it is normal, healthy even, that reasonable people have wildly differing opinions. There's nothing immoral or wrong with that. At this stage, there's really nothing left to be said on the matter. Either you're for pluralism o...
by Rinkals
Mon Jul 13, 2020 10:24 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: OFFICIAL Brexit Thread
Replies: 41030
Views: 2138950

Re: OFFICIAL Brexit Thread

From the New European again ? One rather suspects it will be fronted by Michael Gove or some sacrificial junior minister. All based on what the EU has already put into the public domain so trying to trash the source is, well .... facile nonsense Everything the EU says good.... :lol: That's nowhere ...
by Rinkals
Mon Jul 13, 2020 4:19 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 126890
Views: 9135841

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

I suppose, for me the important thing was to have a strong America to give a moral backbone to World Order. Obviously, this has been seriously eroded over the years, starting with the Iran-Contra affair andprobably well before that. GW Bush's adventures in Iraq were also morally indefensible, altho...
by Rinkals
Sun Jul 12, 2020 4:40 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 126890
Views: 9135841

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

:thumbup: run a budget deficit of a trillion a year pre covid and tear apart regulations that are there to run an effective society and how do you not expect people to have more cash in their pocket in the short term ; you would assume most people would realise this and then you throw in what a nas...
by Rinkals
Sun Jul 12, 2020 3:23 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 126890
Views: 9135841

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Another deep frustration is the unreliability of the polling. Take the key battleground of Arizona - On Wednesday CNBC had Biden at +7 on Thursday Gravis had Trump +4. Given the normal statistical errors of around 3-4% for these things then one/tother/both have a problem with their polling. The Eco...
by Rinkals
Sun Jul 12, 2020 2:07 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 126890
Views: 9135841

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

The pardon stats are interesting 963 (Obama) 229 (Clinton) 100 (Bush) 36 (Trump) 20 (John Adams) 16 (George Washington) Trump third lowest. Where did you get that from? it sounds pretty implausible. I think they normally pardon lots of people at the end of their 4 years. Trump is currently a one te...
by Rinkals
Sun Jul 12, 2020 1:37 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 126890
Views: 9135841

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

The pardon stats are interesting 963 (Obama) 229 (Clinton) 100 (Bush) 36 (Trump) 20 (John Adams) 16 (George Washington) Trump third lowest. Where did you get that from? it sounds pretty implausible. I think they normally pardon lots of people at the end of their 4 years. Trump is currently a one te...
by Rinkals
Sun Jul 12, 2020 8:38 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 126890
Views: 9135841

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Another deep frustration is the unreliability of the polling. Take the key battleground of Arizona - On Wednesday CNBC had Biden at +7 on Thursday Gravis had Trump +4. Given the normal statistical errors of around 3-4% for these things then one/tother/both have a problem with their polling. The Eco...
by Rinkals
Sun Jul 12, 2020 7:59 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 126890
Views: 9135841

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Santa wrote:The pardon stats are interesting

963 (Obama)
229 (Clinton)
100 (Bush)
36 (Trump)
20 (John Adams)
16 (George Washington)

Trump third lowest.
Where did you get that from? it sounds pretty implausible.
by Rinkals
Sun Jul 12, 2020 7:48 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Great GIFS Thread (Not all NSFW have been spoilered...)
Replies: 22269
Views: 3807548

Re: Great GIFS Thread (Not all NSFW have been spoilered...)

Hong Kong wrote:if 2020 were a baby
It looks like whatever that was has offended some sensibilities on Reddit.
by Rinkals
Sat Jul 11, 2020 9:55 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 126890
Views: 9135841

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Any comments on Trump commuting Roger Stone sentence? I think it's been established that it's well within Trump's gift to pardon who he likes and there's nothing anyone can do about it. There are obviously limits to the Presidential Pardon, but within those limits Trump has free reign. (the miss-sp...
by Rinkals
Sat Jul 11, 2020 9:51 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Scummings going by Xmas..... Boris next year.
Replies: 9918
Views: 847671

Re: Boris goooooone or just Cummings?

bimboman wrote:
Rinkals wrote:
Onegin wrote:
bimboman wrote:

And are you really comparing 5 million vs 54 million populations as equal. ?
The UK 66 million and EU 446 million are equals.
Yes, but each Englishman is worth ten of anyJohnny Foreigner.

The comparison was about covid deaths. Mr basic thought.
And your point is?
by Rinkals
Sat Jul 11, 2020 9:19 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Scummings going by Xmas..... Boris next year.
Replies: 9918
Views: 847671

Re: Boris goooooone or just Cummings?

Onegin wrote:
bimboman wrote:

And are you really comparing 5 million vs 54 million populations as equal. ?
The UK 66 million and EU 446 million are equals.
Yes, but each Englishman is worth ten of anyJohnny Foreigner.
by Rinkals
Sat Jul 11, 2020 10:05 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: American Cops behaving Badly (All inclusive thread)
Replies: 6897
Views: 717021

Re: American Cops behaving Badly (All inclusive thread)

I give up. On another thread, you went after a poster because you suggested that he said he knew what other people were thinking. That ended up with you calling me a "nasty old cvnt". You really do need to look at yourself in the mirror. You don’t even understand my post regarding one dimensional t...
by Rinkals
Sat Jul 11, 2020 10:03 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 126890
Views: 9135841

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

I am very wary of assuming that Americans will vote him out after conversations on here with American voters who feel that he is performing relatively well and who feel that Biden would be worse. Clearly, if you live in the US, your perception of the impact of Trump is rather less critical than if ...
by Rinkals
Sat Jul 11, 2020 9:50 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: OFFICIAL Brexit Thread
Replies: 41030
Views: 2138950

Re: OFFICIAL Brexit Thread

Lovely lorry Park for drivers to sit and reflect on all the winning. Nice. I remember when the suggestion of lorry parks were just one part of "Project Fear". It now appears that it was part of the Leave campaign all along. In fairness Rinkals, you can probably remember when everywhere was "All fie...
by Rinkals
Sat Jul 11, 2020 9:49 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: American Cops behaving Badly (All inclusive thread)
Replies: 6897
Views: 717021

Re: American Cops behaving Badly (All inclusive thread)

I dint change your post at all. I gave a valid interpretation. This is one of those useful resources for you. It's NOT a valid interpretation. I never mentioned communism at all. You are dishonest. I gave an example of the biases you thought were an issue. In some cases an accurate one. This is bac...
by Rinkals
Sat Jul 11, 2020 9:42 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: American Cops behaving Badly (All inclusive thread)
Replies: 6897
Views: 717021

Re: American Cops behaving Badly (All inclusive thread)

I dint change your post at all. I gave a valid interpretation. This is one of those useful resources for you. It's NOT a valid interpretation. I never mentioned communism at all. You are dishonest. I gave an example of the biases you thought were an issue. In some cases an accurate one. This is bac...
by Rinkals
Sat Jul 11, 2020 9:34 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: American Cops behaving Badly (All inclusive thread)
Replies: 6897
Views: 717021

Re: American Cops behaving Badly (All inclusive thread)

bimboman wrote:I dint change your post at all. I gave a valid interpretation. This is one of those useful resources for you.
It's NOT a valid interpretation.

I never mentioned communism at all.

You are dishonest.
by Rinkals
Sat Jul 11, 2020 9:29 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: OFFICIAL Brexit Thread
Replies: 41030
Views: 2138950

Re: OFFICIAL Brexit Thread

Sawtooth the Beaver wrote:Lovely lorry Park for drivers to sit and reflect on all the winning. Nice.
I remember when the suggestion of lorry parks were just one part of "Project Fear".

It now appears that it was part of the Leave campaign all along.
by Rinkals
Sat Jul 11, 2020 9:22 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: American Cops behaving Badly (All inclusive thread)
Replies: 6897
Views: 717021

Re: American Cops behaving Badly (All inclusive thread)

You realise you can support one aspect of a organisation but not the other. People support black lives getting a fair chance, not marxism. Who cares what the founders of BLM otherwise think? I realise you can do that. But in this case it’s silly because supporting the slogan BLM come with actual me...
by Rinkals
Sat Jul 11, 2020 9:17 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 126890
Views: 9135841

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

:thumbup: run a budget deficit of a trillion a year pre covid and tear apart regulations that are there to run an effective society and how do you not expect people to have more cash in their pocket in the short term ; you would assume most people would realise this and then you throw in what a nas...
by Rinkals
Sat Jul 11, 2020 9:01 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: American Cops behaving Badly (All inclusive thread)
Replies: 6897
Views: 717021

Re: American Cops behaving Badly (All inclusive thread)

You realise you can support one aspect of a organisation but not the other. People support black lives getting a fair chance, not marxism. Who cares what the founders of BLM otherwise think? I realise you can do that. But in this case it’s silly because supporting the slogan BLM come with actual me...
by Rinkals
Sat Jul 11, 2020 7:27 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: American Cops behaving Badly (All inclusive thread)
Replies: 6897
Views: 717021

Re: American Cops behaving Badly (All inclusive thread)

Oh rubbish. It has been explained to you repeatedly that, even if 2 of the founders claimed to be marxists, taking the knee is not the same as supporting Marxism. Taking the knee is an embarrassment..... Repeatedly links showing the BLM aims here in the UK and the US have shown them to be revolutio...
by Rinkals
Fri Jul 10, 2020 10:28 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: American Cops behaving Badly (All inclusive thread)
Replies: 6897
Views: 717021

Re: American Cops behaving Badly (All inclusive thread)

Oh rubbish. It has been explained to you repeatedly that, even if 2 of the founders claimed to be marxists, taking the knee is not the same as supporting Marxism. Taking the knee is an embarrassment..... Repeatedly links showing the BLM aims here in the UK and the US have shown them to be revolutio...
by Rinkals
Fri Jul 10, 2020 9:25 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 126890
Views: 9135841

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Yes, I confirm that this is the consistent feedback I get here. People whose future (retirement, insurance in case of crisis, children's studies...) hangs on how well their savings and investments do l are mainly focused on the stock exchange indicators and top level economical markets. They don't ...
by Rinkals
Fri Jul 10, 2020 9:23 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: American Cops behaving Badly (All inclusive thread)
Replies: 6897
Views: 717021

Re: American Cops behaving Badly (All inclusive thread)

What is the big deal about BLM being Marxist. Lets all just accept they are Marxist. Does that make a difference or is it just being used as a distraction. How many people taking the knee knew they were supporting Marxism ? Marxism is evil. Anyone taking the knee is not supporting Marxism. They are...
by Rinkals
Fri Jul 10, 2020 9:03 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 126890
Views: 9135841

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

I am very wary of assuming that Americans will vote him out after conversations on here with American voters who feel that he is performing relatively well and who feel that Biden would be worse. Clearly, if you live in the US, your perception of the impact of Trump is rather less critical than if ...
by Rinkals
Fri Jul 10, 2020 8:44 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: American Cops behaving Badly (All inclusive thread)
Replies: 6897
Views: 717021

Re: American Cops behaving Badly (All inclusive thread)

What is the big deal about BLM being Marxist. Lets all just accept they are Marxist. Does that make a difference or is it just being used as a distraction. How many people taking the knee knew they were supporting Marxism ? Marxism is evil. Anyone taking the knee is not supporting Marxism. They are...
by Rinkals
Fri Jul 10, 2020 8:42 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 126890
Views: 9135841

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

I am very wary of assuming that Americans will vote him out after conversations on here with American voters who feel that he is performing relatively well and who feel that Biden would be worse. Clearly, if you live in the US, your perception of the impact of Trump is rather less critical than if ...
by Rinkals
Fri Jul 10, 2020 5:27 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: American Cops behaving Badly (All inclusive thread)
Replies: 6897
Views: 717021

Re: American Cops behaving Badly (All inclusive thread)

Norman Harvey wrote:What is the big deal about BLM being Marxist. Lets all just accept they are Marxist. Does that make a difference or is it just being used as a distraction.
Have you checked under your bed recently? There are HUNDREDS of them under there! :shock: :shock:
by Rinkals
Fri Jul 10, 2020 3:28 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 126890
Views: 9135841

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

I am very wary of assuming that Americans will vote him out after conversations on here with American voters who feel that he is performing relatively well and who feel that Biden would be worse. Clearly, if you live in the US, your perception of the impact of Trump is rather less critical than if y...
by Rinkals
Fri Jul 10, 2020 2:39 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: American Cops behaving Badly (All inclusive thread)
Replies: 6897
Views: 717021

Re: American Cops behaving Badly (All inclusive thread)

NYT has apparently posted the transcript of the Floyd thing. Apparently it is very... oh what's the word I'm looking for?... interesting? Murder suicide After George Floyd repeatedly told police that he couldn't breathe, former Minneapolis police Officer Derek Chauvin said, "Then stop talking, stop...
by Rinkals
Fri Jul 10, 2020 11:03 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 126890
Views: 9135841

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

One of the core issues is whether the rights of the mother over rule the rights of the unborn child. Not a medical issue really, more of a moral one. Trying to deduce whether the founders had a view on that is difficult. About as difficult as deciding whether they wanted the entire political system...