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Very generous to allow that forward pass in the build up. And Argentina going in the side when underhill was competing for the ball.

Keeping it interesting for the 'neutrals'.

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England starting XV: M Smith; F Steward, J Marchant, M Tuilagi, H Arundell; O Farrell (c), B Youngs; E Genge (vc), T Dan, W Stuart, M Itoje, O Chessum, T Curry, S Underhill, B Earl. Replacements: J George, B Rodd, D Cole, D Ribbans, L Ludlam, D Care, G Ford (vc), O Lawrence. Even with the players s...

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Time for Pearson THill or ANOther to provide 3rd lineout option & heft that Lawes always brought to the team Losing Sinfield but keeping Wiggy not the swap that inspires confidence in our attack appearing anytime soon Borewick got a lot on his plate for 6N - 2 new TH's or will Stuart finally up his...

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Lawes has been England's best and most consistent player over the past decade. Sad to see him end his test career. The evolution in his game from being just a big tackler to an excellent all-round forward with ball-carrying and breakdown jackalling has been remarkable. 4 Six Nations titles, a Grand...

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Lawes leaving means a rethink of the entire back row if we're to be competitive at the top flight. His height and heft will be missed. Simply swapping him for Underhill, good player though he is, is not the answer. I can See Borthwick playing a mix of Stewart and Smith depending on the opposition. ...

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Is winning without scoring tries less important? Losing, with or without tries, is shit. Well obviously winning without scoring tries is better that scoring tries and losing. The point was that England need to add to their attacking options. Because - and I don't know if you're aware of this - trie...

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Borthwick definitely needs to try and figure out how to build an attack from this group of players. Not losing is fine, but I don't foresee the 'stop the other guy from playing' style selling out HQ. Telling that in 6 matches, the only teams we outscored in terms of tries were Japan and Chile. 0-1 ...

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We can eulogise the kick chase all we want, and it was pretty successful here, but long term wings need to provide some threat. Outside of the Chile game (and that was Arundell anyway) not a single try was scored by one of our wings in the RWC. Can't actually remember one coming close either. Borth...

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Was that Ben Earl? I noticed it; low no arms tackle, but it was in conjunction with someone else who effected the tackle so was missed. Should have been a penalty. Both tacklers went in low, no arms. Need to back and watch to see who it was, but it was from an attacking lineout after a penalty, aro...

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England very convincing qualifiers.

Again.

Bellingham is quite the player. One of the very best in the world already. Made the right decision not to move to EPL.

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They are on the same level as Australia, Wales and England with 2 years of domestic professional rugby. I happen to think they’ll improve. The next generation will likely see a them hang on to more players that were lost to OS. One of these things is not like the others. Fiji can compete with Engla...

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The mistake from Fiji was playing into an area where they were only able to support with one man into that final breakdown, and he went off his feet in clearing George. Which left Lawes free to have a dabble. I suppose Raynal might still have called ruck, we've seen that happen. But it seems a bit ...

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How odd is it that we’re the only unbeaten side left in the tournament 😊 It only shows what a ridiculous draw it has been. Eng and Arg stinking up the semi's. We all know that Fra v SA and Ire v NZ were true semi-finals. This WC sucks. On the plus side, it made for four excellent quarter finals, ra...

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brummagen wrote: ↑Sun Oct 15, 2023 8:53 pm Who do neutrals want to win?

France.

Be nice to close the loop - the first game of the tournament being the same as the last. Plus France and NZ are the best two teams. Be great to have a new winner as well.

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Couch wrote: ↑Sun Oct 15, 2023 8:49 pm England might as well pre pack their bags

They should just give the kids a go. The first xv will get buttfucked, so just give the next gen a run out before the 3/4 play off.

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The advantage of the silly draw is that all four qfs have been f**king superb. The four shit teams have played some incredibly close games, and the four good teams have played some amazingly close and high quality games. And at least the final is likely to between the two best teams at full strength...

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Such a shame Fiji lacked a kicker. They would have won that with Muntz on the pitch. Third choice flyhalf, Lomani unable to kick at all accurately on and off the tee. Desperately disappointing. France or SA will sweep England aside. Farrell really is an annoying so and so. Again, Fiji's missed pena...

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One of the two teams had a kicker and won. Sorry Fidji In the first half, Fiji missed a penalty, England cleared to touch and the next time England got the ball it was a restart after Fiji scored a converted try. In the second half, Fiji missed apenalty and whilst England retained possession for a ...

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highlands wrote: ↑Sun Oct 15, 2023 5:40 pm Ref bottled that. England scrum destroyed.

Fark off, there is a requirement to drive straight, you know.

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korben_dallas wrote: ↑Sun Oct 15, 2023 5:34 pm imagine if Fiji had a goal kicker

They scored 2 tries almost immediately after missed kicks. If they had a goal-kicker, they'd be well behind.

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That's twice Fiji have scored tries after missing penalties.

Poor place kicking is going to win them the game!

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jambanja wrote: ↑Sun Oct 15, 2023 5:21 pm Has Smith played much at fullback

Yes, he played there against Chile.

And maybe a bit at school.

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backrow wrote: ↑Sun Oct 15, 2023 5:09 pm Fwd not picked up

And pretty obvious, too.

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Can anyone explain why Fiji didn't get a Scrum penalty then? England going backwards heads pop up... yet no penalty? Yep seemed a clear enough penalty. No. That always happens at a stationery scrum with the ball held at the base. It's when heads pop up due to pressure that it's blown. The scrum tha...

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England is going to be nice and tender in the SF if they make it through We already know that - thanks to the draw - the SFs will be nice gentle warm ups for NZ and FRA/SA so they are both rested for the final. It doesn't really matter what condition England will be iin. Currenly these two teams ar...

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Can anyone explain why Fiji didn't get a Scrum penalty then? England going backwards heads pop up... yet no penalty? Entirely mysterious, to be honest. Reffing the scrum.can be kinda random because it's hard to tell exactly what's going on. But that seemed about as clear a penalty as its possible t...

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marcopolio wrote: ↑Sun Oct 15, 2023 4:46 pm Curry needs to come off at half time. He's a liability.

Wish we had Mercer in the squad.

Imagine if we had picked one of our No8s and could play Earl at 7. That would be nice.

Instead we have three props on the bench.

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So mitigation is applied when a player slightly changes height, but not when he drops more than a metre from taking a high ball? K. Seems consistent. The refs obvs been told to calm the hell down since the curry Argentina red joke I had got the impression they'd already been told to calm down after...

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Akkerman wrote: ↑Sun Oct 15, 2023 4:35 pm english backline moves

Both tries have come from our one backline move. Pass to fly-half, pass to a centre, smash.

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So mitigation is applied when a player slightly changes height, but not when he drops more than a metre from taking a high ball?

K.

Seems consistent.

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Now THAT is a red.

Or a yellow if you're not English.

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This is all part of Borthwick master plan: let the world think that England are a badly led, badly coached, load of slow hasbeens with low skill and morale, scrape through wins until the semis, and then obliterate 2 decent teams in the semi and final by 30+ points with displays of power and running...

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Heard from a few England players this week on various podcasts and one thing that is abundantly clear is that they are living in a controlled bubble. They are like Stepford Players. Any criticism is dismissed as people who just hate the shirt rather than the performances. I don't think having the p...

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Come on Fiji! If England get through to the semi I’ve a horrible feeling this tournament will be spun as a success by the RFU. Then there won’t be the meaningful change we need. I described this as "papering over the cracks" only this morning. At least papering over the cracks had the outward appea...

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korben_dallas wrote: ↑Sun Oct 08, 2023 10:08 pm Group of death produces another classic

This has been the most entertaining and closest group in WC history. Never before have we had 5 teams with such close results. The only blow out result was, amusingly enough, Wales demolishing Australia.

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Keith wrote: ↑Sat Oct 07, 2023 10:55 pm
message #2527204 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 07, 2023 8:58 pm
We wouldn't have won without farrell
Good one

I dunno. If we only had 14 men, we probably would have lost that.

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This is close to our RWC team that destroyed NZ four years ago. If they have had time to figure out who does what then they could go well. I’m starting to feel more hopeful. The win over Argentina was a turning point for this team I reckon. They were exceptionally good in that game. We were shockin...

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So as England top the group regardless, is the Samoa game another opportunity to try things out (e.g. getting Smith on the pitch again, at 10 or 15) or is this the (only) chance to give the first XV a run out before the QF against Fiji? It would certainly be pretty disappointing to see the backline ...

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Akkerman wrote: ↑Tue Sep 26, 2023 10:41 pm so is the Donald poor now ?

Well, he's between $800m and $2.2bn poorer than he claimed he was.

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