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by The Native
Sat Oct 21, 2023 10:53 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: New Zealand - South Africa World Cup Final thread
Replies: 155
Views: 3480

Re: New Zealand - South Africa World Cup Final thread

TAB odds

All Blacks $1.80
Springboks $1.92
by The Native
Sat Oct 21, 2023 10:40 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: New Zealand - South Africa World Cup Final thread
Replies: 155
Views: 3480

Re: New Zealand - South Africa World Cup Final thread

Faf and Pollard back in the run on side next week.
by The Native
Sat Oct 21, 2023 9:54 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Springboks vs England . RWC Semi Final thread
Replies: 1644
Views: 27521

Re: Springboks vs England . RWC Semi Final thread

mdaclarke wrote: Sat Oct 21, 2023 9:53 pm How did South Africa Steal that
England did enough to lead, but not to win.
by The Native
Sat Oct 21, 2023 8:52 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Springboks vs England . RWC Semi Final thread
Replies: 1644
Views: 27521

Re: Springboks vs England . RWC Semi Final thread

CM11 wrote: Sat Oct 21, 2023 8:51 pm I know it's not scintillating rugby but it's engrossing and fun watching SA being out Boked.
Agreed. With no skin in the game I'm actually enjoying this.
by The Native
Sat Oct 21, 2023 1:09 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: All Blacks V Los Pumas. RWC 2023 Semi Final thread.
Replies: 1387
Views: 24308

Re: All Blacks V Los Pumas. RWC 2023 Semi Final thread.

Two things that have immediately stood out from the last two games. 1. Red zone efficiency. I'd love to see a statistic of how many points, on average, the All Blacks have scored each time they have entered the opposition 22 against Ireland and Argentina. And the stat of how many times the All Black...
by The Native
Sat Oct 21, 2023 12:50 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: All Blacks V Los Pumas. RWC 2023 Semi Final thread.
Replies: 1387
Views: 24308

Re: All Blacks V Los Pumas. RWC 2023 Semi Final thread.

The NH journalists are absolutely livid at the result I simply can't get enough. Shite Richie McCaw for a captain, can't ruck, old middle row, not a vintage team, Ireland better at being the All Blacks, stadium atmosphere is flat, Ireland/France should've been in the semi-finals, referee should lear...
by The Native
Sat Oct 21, 2023 12:17 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: All Blacks V Los Pumas. RWC 2023 Semi Final thread.
Replies: 1387
Views: 24308

Re: All Blacks V Los Pumas. RWC 2023 Semi Final thread.

The way the All Blacks were trying to run up the score with the clock in the red was appalling sportsmanship. Kiwi teams routinely do this, and when I call them out the simpimg kiwi posters cry about points difference. No points difference in a semi final when you're up by 50 points. Just a bunch o...
by The Native
Fri Oct 20, 2023 11:40 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: All Blacks V Los Pumas. RWC 2023 Semi Final thread.
Replies: 1387
Views: 24308

Re: All Blacks V Los Pumas. RWC 2023 Semi Final thread.

Same. I get the feeling that if we pick Tele'a next week the saffas will be putting a lot of high balls to his wing Probably the case either way. I'm a consistent outlier in this respect , I think there's considerable daylight between what Tele'a offers this AB team and what Leicester brings. My im...
by The Native
Fri Oct 20, 2023 10:56 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: All Blacks V Los Pumas. RWC 2023 Semi Final thread.
Replies: 1387
Views: 24308

Re: All Blacks V Los Pumas. RWC 2023 Semi Final thread.

Well I think Gardner has put himself in good contention for the final. Clear, accurate and let the game flow. Dealt with things calmly and correctly. It'll probably be Mathieu Raynal so they can have at least one Frenchman on the field.... If England aren’t in it, Barnes will have the final. Accord...
by The Native
Fri Oct 20, 2023 10:36 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Will Jordan
Replies: 132
Views: 4064

Re: Will Jordan

Jtah wrote: Fri Oct 20, 2023 10:18 pm Another excellent outing for the points machine.
Could’ve had four if Mo’unga wasn’t greedy.
by The Native
Fri Oct 20, 2023 10:34 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: All Blacks V Los Pumas. RWC 2023 Semi Final thread.
Replies: 1387
Views: 24308

Re: All Blacks V Los Pumas. RWC 2023 Semi Final thread.

BlueThunder wrote: Fri Oct 20, 2023 10:27 pm
Sonny Blount wrote: Fri Oct 20, 2023 10:20 pm
Pakia Pakia wrote: Fri Oct 20, 2023 10:09 pm

I would have kept Fainga'anuku but Tele'a was also a handful today.
Telea as the correct pick and he proved it.
Telea was immense, huge workrate, great game. :thumbup:
Tele’a ran for the second most metres and beat 14 defenders with 2 clean breaks and an offload. Insane stats.
by The Native
Fri Oct 20, 2023 10:28 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: All Blacks V Los Pumas. RWC 2023 Semi Final thread.
Replies: 1387
Views: 24308

Re: All Blacks V Los Pumas. RWC 2023 Semi Final thread.

Great result. Great defence when they were under the pump at times, which will probably annoy some ignorant forum members. Tele’a was great, fully vindicating his selection. Barrett yellow card was dumb. Mo’unga goal kicking unusually bad. Scrums were beautiful.
by The Native
Fri Oct 20, 2023 10:47 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: NZ v Ireland RWC Quarter Final Thread..
Replies: 4147
Views: 82916

Re: NZ v Ireland RWC Quarter Final Thread..

Good to see us Kiwis arguing with each other, we're all on edge, wouldn't have it any other way. No arguments. I simply asked Ted if he could demonstrate any fundamental knowledge of the defence system used by the All Blacks so his comments wouldn’t be discredited as nothing but grumpy old man ramb...
by The Native
Fri Oct 20, 2023 1:37 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: NZ v Ireland RWC Quarter Final Thread..
Replies: 4147
Views: 82916

Re: NZ v Ireland RWC Quarter Final Thread..

Good to see us Kiwis arguing with each other, we're all on edge, wouldn't have it any other way. No arguments. I simply asked Ted if he could demonstrate any fundamental knowledge of the defence system used by the All Blacks so his comments wouldn’t be discredited as nothing but grumpy old man ramb...
by The Native
Fri Oct 20, 2023 1:02 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: NZ v Ireland RWC Quarter Final Thread..
Replies: 4147
Views: 82916

Re: NZ v Ireland RWC Quarter Final Thread..

Better tacklers and defensive reads obviously. But I don't have a solution as to what system they should use instead, or how they might tweak the current one. Nor is that is necessarily a perquisite or natural progression of my observations. They are after all just observations. Funny way of saying...
by The Native
Fri Oct 20, 2023 12:48 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: NZ v Ireland RWC Quarter Final Thread..
Replies: 4147
Views: 82916

Re: NZ v Ireland RWC Quarter Final Thread..

The response was to me mentioning the 8 missed tackles from the two midfielders. And the failure did not just result in a missed tackle, but also a try. So to reiterate, see bolded. Better tacklers and defensive reads obviously. But I don't have a solution as to what system they should use instead,...
by The Native
Fri Oct 20, 2023 12:30 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: NZ v Ireland RWC Quarter Final Thread..
Replies: 4147
Views: 82916

Re: NZ v Ireland RWC Quarter Final Thread..

No, not when it's not working, obviously. It's called failure to execute, skill deficit, or whatever is causing it not to work. Maybe it's just a shit plan given the cattle we have and we should be using something else? That doesn't preclude it being an excellent plan in different circumstances. Ba...
by The Native
Fri Oct 20, 2023 12:15 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: RWC Team of the quarters
Replies: 8
Views: 381

Re: RWC Team of the quarters

Mr Mike wrote: Thu Oct 19, 2023 10:03 pm Mack Hansen is a strange call and they may have the wrong Kiwi at 12.
Bundee scored a try and Jordie saved one. Jordie also nailed that long range penalty and slotted a difficult conversion. Mack Hansen is an odd call, definitely.
by The Native
Fri Oct 20, 2023 12:07 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: NZ v Ireland RWC Quarter Final Thread..
Replies: 4147
Views: 82916

Re: NZ v Ireland RWC Quarter Final Thread..

Given that press said what they said about the All Blacks not being to ruck, aged locks, not a vintage team etc. Coupled with the verbal from the Irish players and the fact that the All Blacks smacked them at ruck time, dominated during set piece and constructed well taken tries to bundle out the “b...
by The Native
Thu Oct 19, 2023 11:15 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: NZ v Ireland RWC Quarter Final Thread..
Replies: 4147
Views: 82916

Re: NZ v Ireland RWC Quarter Final Thread..

Yes, I accept that is a legitimate defensive strategy, especially in the backline. It is not when the opposition scores off it, is it? So is it or is it not a legitimate defensive tactic? No, not when it's not working, obviously. It's called failure to execute, skill deficit, or whatever is causing...
by The Native
Thu Oct 19, 2023 10:24 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: NZ v Ireland RWC Quarter Final Thread..
Replies: 4147
Views: 82916

Re: NZ v Ireland RWC Quarter Final Thread..

Didn’t want to stink up the semi final thread, but old mate on a podcast had this to say ”Irish rugby journalist Rúaidhrí O'Connor has labelled the All Blacks 'smug' this week post the win over the number one ranked side. "They've been quite smug the All Blacks. They were quite smug in the aftermath...
by The Native
Thu Oct 19, 2023 9:42 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: NZ v Ireland RWC Quarter Final Thread..
Replies: 4147
Views: 82916

Re: NZ v Ireland RWC Quarter Final Thread..

Watched an interesting video on Youtube by a fellow called Hakatime Rugby (here's the video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2UAJv_8C5g&pp=ygUOaGFrYXRpbWUgcnVnYnk%3D ) and he took a decent look at the last 37 phase stanza and leading up to it. There was question and criticism of why the All Blacks...
by The Native
Thu Oct 19, 2023 8:35 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: All Blacks V Los Pumas. RWC 2023 Semi Final thread.
Replies: 1387
Views: 24308

Re: All Blacks V Los Pumas. RWC 2023 Semi Final thread.

Nerves are starting now.
by The Native
Thu Oct 19, 2023 1:59 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: NZ v Ireland RWC Quarter Final Thread..
Replies: 4147
Views: 82916

Re: NZ v Ireland RWC Quarter Final Thread..

Still 8 tackles missed by the midfield, wherever they were defending, is not optimal. Ringrose gets dinged with “missed tackle” stats all the time because he stands up an attacker, who cuts back inside and gets tied up. The defender keeps his feet and the shape of the defensive line, and the tackle...
by The Native
Thu Oct 19, 2023 1:02 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: NZ v Ireland RWC Quarter Final Thread..
Replies: 4147
Views: 82916

Re: NZ v Ireland RWC Quarter Final Thread..

It was an amazing performance don't get me wrong but I've heard Matt Williams ramble on about the soft tries Ireland conceded, just missed tackles apparently, when we let in two veeeeery soft tried. Who'd have thought of marking a halfback of a maul after just getting your 9 put in the bin? Frizzel...
by The Native
Wed Oct 18, 2023 10:16 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: All Blacks V Los Pumas. RWC 2023 Semi Final thread.
Replies: 1387
Views: 24308

Re: All Blacks V Los Pumas. RWC 2023 Semi Final thread.

Not irrational at all. The man is a fraud and has no right to be in this position... quite apart from his poor CV, throwing his assistants under the bus last year to save himself tells you everything about the sort of person he is... Look, another one. And another. Foster had been a shit coach his ...
by The Native
Wed Oct 18, 2023 7:48 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: NZ v Ireland RWC Quarter Final Thread..
Replies: 4147
Views: 82916

Re: NZ v Ireland RWC Quarter Final Thread..

Anyone else catch the nz 1 news reporter outside the stadium trying catch fan reaction after the game? Angry Irishman comes past, 'English ref with a union jack on your flag? Of course you're going to get that' Can’t not expect some ill-considered words right after that result. Listening to the GBR...
by The Native
Wed Oct 18, 2023 7:07 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: All Blacks V Los Pumas. RWC 2023 Semi Final thread.
Replies: 1387
Views: 24308

Re: All Blacks V Los Pumas. RWC 2023 Semi Final thread.

It's a close call and I'd prefer the player that is signed in 2024 to NZ rugby. It was never a close call. Tele’a is simply better suited to how the All Blacks want to play the game. Tele’a offers more as a whole. As we get closer to the end amd things tighten up I'm starting to prefer Fainga'anuku...
by The Native
Wed Oct 18, 2023 7:04 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: All Blacks V Los Pumas. RWC 2023 Semi Final thread.
Replies: 1387
Views: 24308

Re: All Blacks V Los Pumas. RWC 2023 Semi Final thread.

Nah you can't just blame foster everytime we lose and then put the wins down to the assistants. Foster is the coach. Anything his assistants do is because of him. Ted is just a curmudgeonly, sad, old man and engaging with him is pointless. He’d probably celebrate an All Black exit at the semi becau...
by The Native
Wed Oct 18, 2023 6:56 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: All Blacks V Los Pumas. RWC 2023 Semi Final thread.
Replies: 1387
Views: 24308

Re: All Blacks V Los Pumas. RWC 2023 Semi Final thread.

If Stuff is accurate (and they were last week), it’s just the three changes. I think Roigard would have been very handy off the bench and it’s a pity Fainga'anuku looks set to miss out but if he’s not starting, I get that. If that is correct, Christie is in, then I think it is simply a case of Fost...
by The Native
Wed Oct 18, 2023 6:13 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: All Blacks V Los Pumas. RWC 2023 Semi Final thread.
Replies: 1387
Views: 24308

Re: All Blacks V Los Pumas. RWC 2023 Semi Final thread.

Murdoch wrote: Wed Oct 18, 2023 5:37 pm
Grandpa wrote: Wed Oct 18, 2023 5:13 pm Tough on Leicester
It's a close call and I'd prefer the player that is signed in 2024 to NZ rugby.
It was never a close call. Tele’a is simply better suited to how the All Blacks want to play the game. Tele’a offers more as a whole.
by The Native
Wed Oct 18, 2023 5:35 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: All Blacks V Los Pumas. RWC 2023 Semi Final thread.
Replies: 1387
Views: 24308

Re: All Blacks V Los Pumas. RWC 2023 Semi Final thread.

Tele’a was always going to come back into the team so that’s no surprise. They’ve set their stall in Christie and if we make the final he’ll be in the team. Don’t mind the Whitelock and Retallick swap but Coles out and Taukei'aho in seems to be a straight tactical decision.
by The Native
Wed Oct 18, 2023 10:30 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: NZ v Ireland RWC Quarter Final Thread..
Replies: 4147
Views: 82916

Re: NZ v Ireland RWC Quarter Final Thread..

I watched the last 6 or so minutes of the quarter final to see if I wasn’t hanging shit on Sexton unfairly. It’s on YouTube for those interested. I was too kind in my initial assessment. At times he actually looked like he was in pain, he was fcuked and bereft of ideas. A complete handbrake on the I...
by The Native
Wed Oct 18, 2023 10:14 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: NZ v Ireland RWC Quarter Final Thread..
Replies: 4147
Views: 82916

Re: NZ v Ireland RWC Quarter Final Thread..

Reiko is world class. All blacks biggest weakness is cards and penalties. We are the best team left in the tournament now but discipline could cost us. Sure, Aaron smith was unlucky but if we didn't concede the 2 yellows we probably would have won that game by 20+ points. It almost cost us the game...
by The Native
Wed Oct 18, 2023 9:28 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: NZ v Ireland RWC Quarter Final Thread..
Replies: 4147
Views: 82916

Re: NZ v Ireland RWC Quarter Final Thread..

Reiko is world class. All blacks biggest weakness is cards and penalties. We are the best team left in the tournament now but discipline could cost us. Sure, Aaron smith was unlucky but if we didn't concede the 2 yellows we probably would have won that game by 20+ points. It almost cost us the game...
by The Native
Wed Oct 18, 2023 8:52 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: All Blacks 2023
Replies: 4967
Views: 146369

Re: All Blacks 2023

41 mins 54 seconds ball in play - Ireland vs All Blacks (from ThebRugbybPod). That’s how to beat SA. It would be a help. You can do your utmost to keep the ball in play. But you can’t stop players from feigning injury when play does stop. Or coaches shamelessly using HIA’s to spell their players fo...
by The Native
Wed Oct 18, 2023 4:57 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: NZ v Ireland RWC Quarter Final Thread..
Replies: 4147
Views: 82916

Re: NZ v Ireland RWC Quarter Final Thread..

Add Porter to that list. He was so, so impressive in the series last year and got scrummed off the park on the weekend. I don't understand why they kept him on for so long. I'd have to watch the game again to watch it specifically but I don't think he was scrummed off the park tbf. I think he was p...
by The Native
Wed Oct 18, 2023 4:49 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: NZ v Ireland RWC Quarter Final Thread..
Replies: 4147
Views: 82916

Re: NZ v Ireland RWC Quarter Final Thread..

Well their coach is English tbf, that influence was bound to bleed through eventually. Although, there are a few key differences: 1. The English know how to win a World Cup quarter final 2. The English know how to beat the All Blacks at a World Cup 3. The English have fewer poaches 4. The English m...
by The Native
Wed Oct 18, 2023 4:44 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: NZ v Ireland RWC Quarter Final Thread..
Replies: 4147
Views: 82916

Re: NZ v Ireland RWC Quarter Final Thread..

There was an awful lot of trash talk coming from the Irish Scribes and Fans in the lead up to the game, and a lot of whinging coming from the Irish Scribes and Fans after the game.... It's like we played the English! Well their coach is English tbf, that influence was bound to bleed through eventua...
by The Native
Wed Oct 18, 2023 3:02 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: anyone else mentally struggle in their 40's ?
Replies: 485
Views: 22884

Re: anyone else mentally struggle in their 40's ?

Might have already been mentioned, but BMI is an outdated and inaccurate form of health monitoring. Well it is if you're an athlete...but if you're a fat sack of shit it gives you something to aim at When it was devised the human diet was a lot different and typical muscle mass was also lower. Addi...