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Zakar

Agree w/- both points. Happy to see HMP back on board, tho’. On t’other hand, I’ll be at this game and I’m not much of an infallible good luck charm for the Red. Been to far to many losses and outright floggings. I’ve only been to one Reds game in NZ, and the Reds won it. I fear the universe may be...

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Australia U20 team versus Argentina: 1. Jack Barrett (Waratahs) 2. Bryn Edwards (Waratahs) 3. Tevita Alatini (Brumbies) 4. Toby Macpherson (Brumbies – captain) 5. Harvey Cordukes (Brumbies) 6. Aden Ekanayake (Waratahs) 7. Joe Liddy (Reds) 8. Jack Harley (Brumbies) 9. Doug Philipson (Force) 10. Joey...

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The Breakdown claim it's how kids should be taught to tackle.. that only one of Finau's tackles this year was late... and that he bent at the waist and wrapped... textbook according to these three ex All Blacks... https://youtu.be/kvpcWPKhMUI?si=usR6lhSpAoTXSCBG&t=697 start at 11.37. Not sure if jo...

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Hurrifan wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2024 9:16 am O'Reilly is out so we're down to 5th/6th choice hooker. If they can find one from outside the squad that is.

That's have all of their contracted front rowers out with injury other than HJH.

Zakar

Watched an interesting video by Two Cents the other day, showing how massively popular the NRL is in Aus. Lot's of money and support in the game. Much bigger than Soup rugby. That's where it ends though. International league is effectively a non-event and is dwarfed by rugby. I have no doubt that w...

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Pretty tough playing the #1 team in the comp. https://www.reddit.com/r/RugbyAustralia/comments/1cf8tw7/rob_valetini_vs_hurricanes/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button I just with the current John Eales Medallist, and last year's John Eales Medal...

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I like the combinations Zakar posted. Would Wright go OK at 7? How did Valetini go in the last game? The previous games I saw him he didn't impress much. For a big guy he doesn't seem to bring much physicality. Wright was a 7 originally. He loves a ruck. He played well v Hurricanes. He's also the r...

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Probably. When do they weigh them? Before every season? So if they are all under-reported, surely it's still valid comparing? Why would certain players be under reported by materially different amounts? They aren't under reported. They are just sparsely reported. Tupou has been 135kgs since he star...

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Anyway, Andrew Fifta turned out for the WoyWoy 4th grade team as reserve prop on the weekend, proving conclusively that league front rowers can transition seamlessly to union front row. Fifita is a rah rah now? I look forward to grievous waxing lyrical about the quality of his intellect and charact...

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Probably. When do they weigh them? Before every season? So if they are all under-reported, surely it's still valid comparing? Why would certain players be under reported by materially different amounts? Some players lose weight, Will Skelton and Tamaiti Williams would be two examples. I don't think...

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Anyway, Andrew Fifta turned out for the WoyWoy 4th grade team as reserve prop on the weekend, proving conclusively that league front rowers can transition seamlessly to union front row.

Zakar

No, I don't think they are. They seem to be figures that are written down once and then not updated. As someone pointed out on another thread, Ardie Savea is apparently only 95kgs. Maybe he was...when he first started playing as a 18yo. So you think the weight figures are under-reported? Probably. ...

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I don't believe any of the weight/height stats bandied around. OK, but if they are exaggerated, surely on average they are exaggerated evenly? Therefore it's fine to compare and contrast the different figures? No, I don't think they are. They seem to be figures that are written down once and then n...

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I agree that it is too risky but is applied in accordance with the rules (despite him being a bit late in every case) whereas Dirty Swine did it to injure. Repeating, teams have no problems doing it to DMac so Finau is applying payback. But Finau is obviously doing it to injure as well. He just has...

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Thomas wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2024 1:39 am I don't believe any of the weight/height stats bandied around.

OK, but if they are exaggerated, surely on average they are exaggerated evenly? Therefore it's fine to compare and contrast the different figures?

Zakar

Most league players are suited to 12 because at 12, you have to be solid in defense,have vision and good hands. Outside this position RL players generally struggle with a few notable exceptions. I was going to say that 12 followed by 13 are the only 2 positions that I can see League converts succee...

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McReight, Wright and Cale are all easily big enough for test rugby in their respective positions. Correct. However, it's not escaped my notice that literally every game this week the Aussie pack was smaller than the NZ pack. Disparity was only 10kgs for Force v Highlanders, but it was up to 30kgs i...

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Mr Mike wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2024 3:01 pm The most disturbing thing about the entire thread is the use of “wreckless”. Is that a Boardism that I have missed or is it more evidence that the decline of civilization is accelerating?

In most contexts, wrecklessness is probably good thing. Maybe other than scuba diving?

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all.rugby and Brumbies website 193cm 106kg Caelen Doris 192cm 106kg Hoskins Sotutu 194cm 105kg Charlie Cale 190cm 103kg Ardie Savea 186cm 102kg Ben Earl I find the talk of a backrow of 6. Wright 7. McReight & 8. Valetini and size just bizarre. Chuck Cale & Wilson into the squad mix and you’ve got a...

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Just because it's Intense doesn't make it a great game enjoyable to everyone. Those who are used to seeing the variety of play and competition for the ball in rugby, would probably find the short pass, tackle x 5 and a kick routine boring and dumb. The shoulder charges and thugby acts in League don...

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booze wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2024 12:54 pm
Zakar wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 11:49 pm
Grandpa wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 11:45 pm
ABH v GBH innit
Intent v Result
And you defend the indefensible because of nationality

I'm not defending, I'm pointing out that others are defending.

Zakar

I like the combinations Zakar posted. Would Wright go OK at 7? How did Valetini go in the last game? The previous games I saw him he didn't impress much. For a big guy he doesn't seem to bring much physicality. Wright was a 7 originally. He loves a ruck. He played well v Hurricanes. He's also the r...

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Fardy was the starting 6 at the 2015 RWC - when did McMahon play? Wright at 6 with McReight at 7 makes for the world’s smallest test backrow and one imo that will struggle to produce front foot ball. Not if you have a big no 8 like Valentini or Wilson. Neither are particularly big at test level, bu...

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Wright isn't a big 6, but he's not small . It's not like the multiple times we played Hooper and Poey, or Poey and Smith, or Smith and Waugh etc etc. I'd happily see 6. Wright 7. McReight 8. Valentini With Wilson getting 30 off the bench, just going hell for leather. Alternatively, I do like the ide...

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TranceNRG wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2024 9:58 am
Ali's Choice wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2024 7:56 am Threads like this are embarrassing, they highlight that a tiny minority of Rugby fans still have a massive chip on their shoulder when it comes to Rugby League. You simply don't get threads like this in reverse on RL forums. Rugby simply isn't on the radar as as issue.

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After this weekend, assuming everyone is healthy this is the 23: 1. Bell / Slipper 2. The Fess / Pollard 3. AAA / Thor 4. Smith 5. Swain / LSL 6. Wright (c) 7. McReight 8. Valetini / Wilson 9. McDermott / midget twin 10. Lynagh / Gordon 11. Toole 12. Salami 13. Lenny 14. Wright / Lancaster 15. Kell...

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Bell has a long term injury. Face up to it and pick another loose head. Good luck. Is that confirmed somewhere, or do you have a scoop? The press I've seen is that he night be back during the test season. The last I heard he was contemplating a change of position because of the recurring injury. Th...

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After this weekend, assuming everyone is healthy this is the 23: 1. Bell Lot of smokies. Bell has a long term injury. Face up to it and pick another loose head. Good luck. Is that confirmed somewhere, or do you have a scoop? The press I've seen is that he night be back during the test season.

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Bindi wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2024 5:46 am
mojo wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2024 4:49 am Worse than Eto Nabuli?
Eto was far better.

Eto would at least sprint on his way to dropping the ball

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trapper wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2024 2:29 am Tom Wright at the Brumbies is a league convert isn't he? He seems to go ok

No, he went rugby > league -> rugby, so shouldn't really count.

Zakar

CrazyIslander wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2024 3:21 am Vunivalu mixes the really shit and the good seamlessly.

What good?

Zakar

Vunivalu lost the game in a spectacular solo effort. Scored a try and almost another. I didn’t watch the end? Just woeful defense. Outran by a number 8, yet refused to get out of a jog. Also let the last try in. He's a joke. Don't forget the try he 'almost' scored he missed because of hubris. All h...

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I agree that it is too risky but is applied in accordance with the rules (despite him being a bit late in every case) whereas Dirty Swine did it to injure. Repeating, teams have no problems doing it to DMac so Finau is applying payback. But Finau is obviously doing it to injure as well. He just has...

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They were doing it when I was a nipper - Tiny White; Kevin Skinner, Colin Meads, Frik de Preez Interesting that despite this, you still have you panties in a bunch re Swain. One player had the wind knocked out of him. One was put out of the game for 12 months. Yeah, fairly even. If Finau attacks an...

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The Reds played well despite going down at the death. Paisami carried on his good form. Lynagh was again excellent. His defence is decent but he does get bumped off every now and then due to his size. Our 10s will not be picked primarily on defence. Attack and kicking will be more important. That y...

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Grandpa wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 11:45 pm
Zakar wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 11:40 pm
Enzedder wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 11:27 pm

They were doing it when I was a nipper - Tiny White; Kevin Skinner, Colin Meads, Frik de Preez
Interesting that despite this, you still have you panties in a bunch re Swain.
ABH v GBH innit

Intent v Result

Zakar

I agree - but he is not alone in doing this to No 10s. yes, I agree. Tbh, there has always been an element of trying to hurt the opposition in Rugby. Someone like Bakkies Botha made a career out of doing this. They were doing it when I was a nipper - Tiny White; Kevin Skinner, Colin Meads, Frik de ...

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It's all technically legal but there is no doubt in my mind that Finau is deliberately timing it so he's hitting them late when they're not expecting it. Yep, he's trying to hurt the opposing player, which is a very risky strategy in the modern game. I agree - but he is not alone in doing this to N...

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ROLDY wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 10:18 pm Brumbies bounced back very well this weekend.

Makes the blues game even more bizarre.

I'm thinking/hoping that it was Eden Park hoodoo, plus off the boil after the bye week.

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The Rebels need $22m to clear their debt - the group that wants to ‘save’ them are property developers backed by PE, which seems like the worst kind of people imaginable. They're clearing the debt at 30c on the dollar, other than employee entitlements. Interesting. I haven’t seen a link - can you s...

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