It already is though, as shown by the 48 vs 52 split.DragsterDriver wrote: I genuinely think it will tear the country apart.
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- Thu Nov 03, 2016 11:53 am
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: OFFICIAL EU/UK referendum thread
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- Thu Nov 03, 2016 11:44 am
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: OFFICIAL EU/UK referendum thread
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If there were a vote in the Commons today, stay or go, how would you guys imagine it would end up ? Pretty sure it would be a solid remain- but people are overlooking the civil disorder that would tear the country apart. What civil disorder are you thinking would happen? I can't really see it to be...
- Thu Nov 03, 2016 11:39 am
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: OFFICIAL EU/UK referendum thread
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Re: OFFICIAL EU/UK referendum thread
If there were a vote in the Commons today, stay or go, how would you guys imagine it would end up ? Pretty sure it would be a solid remain- but people are overlooking the civil disorder that would tear the country apart. What civil disorder are you thinking would happen? I can't really see it to be...
- Thu Nov 03, 2016 11:35 am
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: OFFICIAL EU/UK referendum thread
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- Views: 4610691
Re: OFFICIAL EU/UK referendum thread
If there were a vote in the Commons today, stay or go, how would you guys imagine it would end up ? Pretty sure it would be a solid remain- but people are overlooking the civil disorder that would tear the country apart. What civil disorder are you thinking would happen? I can't really see it to be...
- Thu Nov 03, 2016 11:31 am
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: OFFICIAL EU/UK referendum thread
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They aren't really in limbo, they've made it clear that until article 50 is triggered that it's business as usual.DragsterDriver wrote:I don't think the eu want it sitting in limbo for 3 years.
- Thu Nov 03, 2016 11:14 am
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: OFFICIAL EU/UK referendum thread
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A sovereign court and sovereign parliament calling the shots. An awful lot of sovereignty today, how excited the Leave voters must be. This is like Christmas for those who wanted absolute UK sovereignty I imagine.The Sun God wrote:So.....Brexit does require parliament approval........going to get interesting.
- Thu Nov 03, 2016 1:06 am
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: OFFICIAL EU/UK referendum thread
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Apparently Boris Johnson gave a speech at the Spectator awards in which he said we would make Brexit "a titanic success". May with her head in her hands. Someone immediately shouted "it sank" It shows the quality of MP that backed leave if the best May could find was him, Davies (who tweeted about ...
- Wed Nov 02, 2016 11:03 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: OFFICIAL EU/UK referendum thread
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Obviously not to be trusted with making any technology analogy with such a silly statement. This rates up their with Winston Churchill won the 2nd world war or the UK was a benevolent ruler of India. A Brit did not invent the Internet https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Berners-Lee Developed at CERN ...
- Wed Nov 02, 2016 9:29 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: OFFICIAL EU/UK referendum thread
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It appears Brexit has left the UK administrations in a state of panic. Speaking from an entirely selfish point of view, I find it so disconcerting that there's not even a suggestion how they will address unsustainably low wholesale produce prices or reduce the money the U.K. already pays to support...
- Wed Nov 02, 2016 8:59 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: OFFICIAL EU/UK referendum thread
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Re: OFFICIAL EU/UK referendum thread
It appears Brexit has left the UK administrations in a state of panic. Speaking from an entirely selfish point of view, I find it so disconcerting that there's not even a suggestion how they will address unsustainably low wholesale produce prices or reduce the money the U.K. already pays to support...
- Wed Nov 02, 2016 6:21 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
- Replies: 126890
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Re: OFFICIAL U.S. Election Thread: TRUMP vs. HILLARY
What happens if Hillary gets elected but then arrested? Does POTUS have immunity? Or will the VP take over procedings? All hypothetical of course. That's a good question. I'm not sure but surely she wouldn't have immunity, but innocent until proven guilty so I presume she'd stay in charge until con...
- Wed Nov 02, 2016 5:46 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: OFFICIAL EU/UK referendum thread
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I can see another vote happening as the economy is going to tank next year, we will see if Brexit means Brexit when the reality of inflation slams into the nuggets who voted to leave as they will be the least able to to handle it. What do you think will happen to the EU when the Italians and Spanis...
- Wed Nov 02, 2016 5:37 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: OFFICIAL EU/UK referendum thread
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Friend of a friend in the Tory party is telling me that MPs are getting sounded out about a deal that involves paying the EU 'high single digit billions' a year for single market particpation. I think this is their tactic for negotiations. The EU is losing the second largest (although I think Franc...
- Wed Nov 02, 2016 5:00 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: OFFICIAL EU/UK referendum thread
- Replies: 84737
- Views: 4610691
Re: OFFICIAL EU/UK referendum thread
I can see another vote happening as the economy is going to tank next year, we will see if Brexit means Brexit when the reality of inflation slams into the nuggets who voted to leave as they will be the least able to to handle it. What do you think will happen to the EU when the Italians and Spanis...
- Wed Nov 02, 2016 4:28 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
- Replies: 126890
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Re: OFFICIAL U.S. Election Thread: TRUMP vs. HILLARY
Apparently Trump is polling higher for honesty than Clinton. Somehow. He tells people what they want to hear so people think he's telling the truth, in addition the more someone says he's lying and you're stupid for believing him means you're more likely to believe in his truth. This election hasn'...
- Wed Nov 02, 2016 3:01 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: OFFICIAL EU/UK referendum thread
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The jingoists in the UK will be in a hurry to trigger A50 and get out at any cost before the consequences start biting hard and people start changing their mind. It was a narrow majority in favour of leaving the EU so it wouldn't take much to swing opinion against going through with it. Tick tock. ...
- Tue Nov 01, 2016 9:55 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: Why aren't there transfer fees in rugby?
- Replies: 20
- Views: 1759
Re: Why aren't there transfer fees in rugby?
Happens in Scotland these days. Racing bought Nakarawa from Glasgow and Bath bought Denton from Edinburgh. Each entering the last year on their deal so an offer was made and the SRU cashed out. There's talk of Toulon offering money for Jonny Gray as well.
- Tue Nov 01, 2016 3:27 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: FIFA bans Poppies
- Replies: 661
- Views: 48722
Re: FIFA bans Poppies
Two is a poor effort, you want at least five and a Daily Mail spread like good ol HRMCalculus wrote:When did the poppy became such a big deal? I saw a politician on the news wearing not one but two poppies.
- Tue Nov 01, 2016 2:53 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: FIFA bans Poppies
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- Views: 48722
Re: FIFA bans Poppies
This is quite funny.
- Tue Nov 01, 2016 2:30 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: FIFA bans Poppies
- Replies: 661
- Views: 48722
Re: FIFA bans Poppies
Scotland our wearing our rather fetching luminous pink kit. Perhaps Fifa are just avoiding a blindingly disgusting colour clash? In any case, the poppy thing has got out of hand, more becoming a figure of oppression than freedom and sacrifice. I personally wouldn't wear one but happy to donate to ve...
- Tue Nov 01, 2016 11:20 am
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: OFFICIAL EU/UK referendum thread
- Replies: 84737
- Views: 4610691
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How's everyone reading the Carney situation now he's staying on? I think he's come out of it looking pretty good all things considered. It seems May who opened him up to attacks with her conference speech on low rates, then had to backtrack when he said "alright I'll go then" which she knew would b...
- Tue Nov 01, 2016 2:16 am
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
- Replies: 126890
- Views: 9044739
Re: OFFICIAL U.S. Election Thread: TRUMP vs. HILLARY
May have already been posted but it's a bold strategy to call yourself corrupt and dislikeable ...
- Tue Nov 01, 2016 12:59 am
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
- Replies: 126890
- Views: 9044739
Re: OFFICIAL U.S. Election Thread: TRUMP vs. HILLARY
Wonder how much of a real impact the latest email episode will have by election day. Trump was gone burgers before that, a walking footnote in history. The whole email saga has been thrashed around for so long prior that a majority of people will have made up their mind on how they would vote regar...
- Tue Nov 01, 2016 12:33 am
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: OFFICIAL EU/UK referendum thread
- Replies: 84737
- Views: 4610691
Re: OFFICIAL EU/UK referendum thread
How's everyone reading the Carney situation now he's staying on? I think he's come out of it looking pretty good all things considered. It seems May who opened him up to attacks with her conference speech on low rates, then had to backtrack when he said "alright I'll go then" which she knew would be...
- Mon Oct 31, 2016 10:57 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
- Replies: 126890
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Re: OFFICIAL U.S. Election Thread: TRUMP vs. HILLARY
Stupid people will believe anything. This Haggis guy takes the cake. She's done folks. You supported the unbackable favourite and the corrupt pile of steaming turd still couldn't do it. Shame on you. Russian influence :lol: :lol: :lol: I thought they'd have something better than that. :lol: :lol: :...
- Mon Oct 31, 2016 10:46 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
- Replies: 126890
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Re: OFFICIAL U.S. Election Thread: TRUMP vs. HILLARY
Stupid people will believe anything. This Haggis guy takes the cake. She's done folks. You supported the unbackable favourite and the corrupt pile of steaming turd still couldn't do it. Shame on you. Russian influence :lol: :lol: :lol: I thought they'd have something better than that. :lol: :lol: :...
- Mon Oct 31, 2016 10:29 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
- Replies: 126890
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Re: OFFICIAL U.S. Election Thread: TRUMP vs. HILLARY
Interesting Comey released the Hilary information so close to the election but not potential Russian hacking: http://www.cnbc.com/2016/10/31/fbis-comey-opposed-naming-russians-citing-election-timing-source.html . So according to your link, Comey thought it should be made by another agency (Nat Inte...
- Mon Oct 31, 2016 9:36 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
- Replies: 126890
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Re: OFFICIAL U.S. Election Thread: TRUMP vs. HILLARY
This is quite a funny leaflet from a Trump rally. I hate to perpetuate your stereotype of racists being unintelligent but....
- Mon Oct 31, 2016 9:31 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
- Replies: 126890
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Re: OFFICIAL U.S. Election Thread: TRUMP vs. HILLARY
Interesting Comey released the Hilary information so close to the election but not potential Russian hacking: http://www.cnbc.com/2016/10/31/fbis-com ... ource.html .
- Mon Oct 31, 2016 6:44 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: OFFICIAL EU/UK referendum thread
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Re: OFFICIAL EU/UK referendum thread
David Blanchflower sums up the Mayhem government and the loons who attack Mark the mounty who, God preserve us, will sign up for more years as the a Governor. "I find it astonishing that in the space of a few days, non-economists William Hague and Michael Gove write newspaper columns attacking cent...
- Mon Oct 31, 2016 4:15 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
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Re: OFFICIAL U.S. Election Thread: TRUMP vs. HILLARY
Let's return once again to the fact that Trump is offering absolutely nothing of substance to improve the lot of working class Americans. His tax plan is classic GOP, minor reductions at best for the poor and slashing rates for the rich. It's presumably a big part of why so much of the Republican P...
- Mon Oct 31, 2016 3:56 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: OFFICIAL EU/UK referendum thread
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Re: OFFICIAL EU/UK referendum thread
The second reason we need to control immigration is its impact on infrastructure and public services. It seems obvious that immigration should have an impact on things like the availability and cost of housing, the transport system, the National Health Service or the number of school places. But in...
- Mon Oct 31, 2016 3:54 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: OFFICIAL EU/UK referendum thread
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Some 42 per cent of Canadian exports to the EU are to the U.K. By comparison, the second-largest destination for Canadian exports in the EU is Germany, a market worth less than a quarter of the U.K.’s market to Canadian exporters. The British government estimated that Canadian exports to the U.K. w...
- Mon Oct 31, 2016 3:45 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
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Re: OFFICIAL U.S. Election Thread: TRUMP vs. HILLARY
The one thing that has pissed me off is the idea that seems to have taken root of late in the minds of certain people that this thing called the Mainstream Media is some sort of giant left wing monolith, crushing all before it. If this election and the Brexit vote are how politics in the social med...
- Mon Oct 31, 2016 3:24 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
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Re: OFFICIAL U.S. Election Thread: TRUMP vs. HILLARY
Some of the polls which shows Trump MASSIVELY closing the gap were produced BEFORE the renewed FBI investigation. There is a Brexit feeling about this election. The MSM media laughed us off and often insinuated the OUT campaign was full of uneducated closet racists. Depolorable. And let's not forge...
- Mon Oct 31, 2016 10:47 am
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: OFFICIAL EU/UK referendum thread
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5p net gain on every £1 spent on long term EU immigrant. Assuming average £26,500 earned for the 3,000,000 EU nationals (That's the UK average wage, not all those immigrants are currently long term but if we hit pause now and they are allowed to stay they will down in to that category) @ the approp...
- Sun Oct 30, 2016 12:19 am
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: OFFICIAL EU/UK referendum thread
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Again, immigration makes a net contribution of 4 billion pounds to the UK economy. That's far more than they receive back in benefits so our generosity does not extend to these migrants. Thank you for agreeing that I am correct about austerity. We are stretched purely because of austerity not build...
- Sat Oct 29, 2016 11:56 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: OFFICIAL EU/UK referendum thread
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There is absolutely no evidence that immigration pushes down native living standards in any country in the world. The reason living standards have declined lately probably has something to do with austerity. People blame immigrants for leaving standards because every day the front page of a tabloid...
- Sat Oct 29, 2016 5:48 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: OFFICIAL EU/UK referendum thread
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You have very little migration, it's a new thing and you're still on the part of the curve where it's still a benefit to you. In just about every place in the Western world who've been under real pressure from immigration there is a strong and growing movement to counter it. We're still benefiting ...
- Fri Oct 28, 2016 5:54 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: Your pre-Autumn Internationals Lions XV
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Re: Your pre-Autumn Internationals Lions XV
Looking like a good quality outside back in the Saracens team is not necessarily easy, but is a different ask than looking good in a test side. Taylor is a long shot at best Luckily for him he has looked good for Sarries and internationally. I agree that he is a long shot but I don't think the Engl...