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The other thing is that statue had absolutely no impact on anybody's life or feelings at all. None. Which isn't exactly a reason keep it but it's not a reason to pull it down either. Had absolutely no impact on anybody's feelings? That's a verifiable lie. People have been campaigning against it sin...

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Plato'sCave wrote:I like White people Black people and Brown people.

No yellow people? Reported for racism against the Simpsons.

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Glaston wrote:
Short Man Syndrome wrote: My parents came from a poor mining village. I can’t stand laziness or ignorance.
So they owned the Mine? /Starmer

V good

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juddy wrote:Black and White 'working class' have a lot of shared disadvantages, including the lack of social mobility in post-industrial uk. It's easy to lose sight of this, because the proportion of the black community in this bracket is higher.

Careful. Danger of spreading sense.

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JM2K6 wrote:"Privilege is a social construct designed purely to make white people feel bad in their own countries"

"[privilege] helps to allay my misplaced white guilt"

Is it not possible for the 2 to co-exist. A bit like the Catholic church and confession........ [/DAC

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] I don't doubt that, because those racist pricks stole your flag. No one up here thinks that about the Saltire Not quite the same as English nationalists but some of us think the SNP have wrongly appropriated the Saltire. I can tell you the voting intention of 99% of people with a saltire in their...

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Oh, for added irony: The Daily Mail signal-boosting the fan who organised it https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8454627/Burnley-fan-White-Lives-Matter-banner-reveals-60-people-organised-stunt.html He's an EDL supporter, it seems. Big fan of Tommy Robinson. Apologies if this is known to everyo...

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You are conflating the St George cross displayed during a World Cup with someone flying a racially charged "bit of bantz" over a stadium to wind up players because players have the nerve to kneel (this is the most generous interpretation of what happened) . They are not the same thing. Context is i...

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Should we really be surprised or worried that in a white English society established by white English people white English people tend to do better? Would be we equally appalled if Chinese people do better in China or India people do better in India? Except that Chinese and Indian kids do better he...

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I don't doubt that, because those racist pricks stole your flag. No one up here thinks that about the Saltire https://media.tenor.com/images/9bfd3c527c848412c908cd732f1393ad/tenor.gif So by your rationale, EVERY white van driver and council house tenant (see what I did here?) displaying that symbol...

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Should we really be surprised or worried that in a white English society established by white English people white English people tend to do better? Would be we equally appalled if Chinese people do better in China or India people do better in India? Except that Chinese and Indian kids do better he...

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Does anyone think they have been dealt a worse hand because they are white and working class? https://www.spiked-online.com/2020/01/22/failing-white-working-class-boys/ If you want to pretend privilege is real for white working class people then it has only been around for a very short time. I thin...

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I don't doubt that, because those racist pricks stole your flag. No one up here thinks that about the Saltire https://media.tenor.com/images/9bfd3c527c848412c908cd732f1393ad/tenor.gif So by your rationale, EVERY white van driver and council house tenant (see what I did here?) displaying that symbol...

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They flew the banner because: A) the individuals involved are racist and white supremists B) they are racist and think white lives matter too C) they are racist and think BLM is too D) they aren’t racist but from their socio-economic background they don’t feel that they experience white privilege a...

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DAC_ wrote:People do know that they are the pictures that the MP, Emily Thundercunt , posted on her twitter account, right?

Which helped the Left lose, again.

Actually, I didn't!! I was just looking for pics of "St George white van" to illustrate a point.

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I may very well be a complete moron (although unlikely), but I am sometimes a moron. This might be one of those times. I am sure you will tell me because you are so absolutely sure of yourself on this issue. But maybe people who refuse to see the racial undertone of flying that banner should possib...

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I may very well be a complete moron (although unlikely), but I am sometimes a moron. This might be one of those times. I am sure you will tell me because you are so absolutely sure of yourself on this issue. But maybe people who refuse to see the racial undertone of flying that banner should possib...

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mdaclarke wrote:This 100%, same with U2. If there ever was to be a patron saint of Tax Avoiders it would surely be Bono

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my 2 cents wrote:Either way I’m sure Burnley are delighted to be in the middle of a shit-fest of their own making

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right you are - outright racist taunts should not be allowed. not-disguised-at-all "subtle" race baiting - just shits and giggles from the lads. carry on. again, and i repeat - the guy or guys should not be arrested, but a ban from Burnley FC is warranted Burnley can do what they want but most norm...

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It seems that successful black sports stars like Hamilton and Rashford are singled out as twats for commenting on matters within their direct personal experience and raising money for charity because they are big earners or, horror, are domiciled elsewhere for tax purposes. All a bit socialist but ...

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It's not illegal to be a hypocrite. They can ban whoever they like, as a private business, providing they're not discriminating against one of the protected groups in the legislation. 'Racists' isn't a protected group. You've proven they are racists? Congrats on your skills as a budding prosecuting...

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right you are - outright racist taunts should not be allowed. not-disguised-at-all "subtle" race baiting - just shits and giggles from the lads. carry on. again, and i repeat - the guy or guys should not be arrested, but a ban from Burnley FC is warranted Keep digging. 1) If there was any chance at...

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I always wonder how they would even enforce a stadium ban anyway. Make sure every steward on every turnstile knows the guys face? It's just posturing for the media. Some of the hardest hooligans who had even done time (so were on every watch list, including the police's) freely attended any matches...

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Right, there's a fair bit there. This article here (which admittedly is 7 years old) suggests clubs can ban whoever they like as long as they don't break equality laws. SO I guess if that's still the case, the only question would be whether any would be broken by banning the individual(s) responsib...

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Toulon's Not Toulouse wrote:That means Dominici will be looking for another club to take over then. Who are the main suspects with an old name and bad financial situation? Biarritz? Bayonne? How is Bourgoin these days?

Errr... that would be everyone bar maybe 3 clubs

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BokJock wrote:Do you genuinely believe there was no racist connotation to that banner?

What part of "the police have stated no crime has been committed" are you struggling to understand? And that's after a huge amount of pressure from the media,
Burnley FC and, I don't doubt, political entities.

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No idea on the relevant legislation, but surely Burnley can ban whoever they like. There's no right enshrined in law to attend a football game at a certain ground. Plenty of people have been banned from the bored, for example, for being a bit of a cvnt rather than doing anything unlawful Happy to b...

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Probably already posted but what the hell Police “that there are no criminal offences that have been disclosed at this time”. i.e.NO CRIME to see here folks. Move on. Meantime, on Planet Wendyball Burnley have insisted they will give out lifetime bans to any supporters found to be involved 1) Good ...

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It seems that successful black sports stars like Hamilton and Rashford are singled out as twats for commenting on matters within their direct personal experience and raising money for charity because they are big earners or, horror, are domiciled elsewhere for tax purposes. All a bit socialist but ...

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No idea on the relevant legislation, but surely Burnley can ban whoever they like. There's no right enshrined in law to attend a football game at a certain ground. Plenty of people have been banned from the bored, for example, for being a bit of a cvnt rather than doing anything unlawful Happy to b...

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How many black or female Union leaders are there? Maybe wanna reconsider that http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/710000/images/_713251_bill300.jpg One. And he's been dead for a while now. He was head of the largest union (I think: because it was before the UNISON merger stuff). Hardly insignificant. Isn...

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WHite patriarchal society, dude. There are 2 very distinct issues in there so unclear to me (unless you just don't understand) why you'd conflate them. Reality check sir - the WORLD is patriarchal. And FWIW, that might be even more so in non-white cultures these days. And also FWIW, I happen to bel...

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message #2527204 wrote:How many black or female Union leaders are there?

Maybe wanna reconsider that

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The overall economic impact of slavery was small? Where do I start? Cotton, cane, tea........ The paid eradication of slavery cost the exchequer (and therefore tax payers) more than was ever made in profits. Well, I'm not sure that your numbers are correct but it's irrelevant and it was covered alr...

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Probably already posted but what the hell Police “that there are no criminal offences that have been disclosed at this time”. i.e.NO CRIME to see here folks. Move on. Meantime, on Planet Wendyball Burnley have insisted they will give out lifetime bans to any supporters found to be involved 1) Good l...

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The overall economic impact of slavery was small? Where do I start? Cotton, cane, tea........ The paid eradication of slavery cost the exchequer (and therefore tax payers) more than was ever made in profits. Well, I'm not sure that your numbers are correct but it's irrelevant and it was covered alr...

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The overall economic impact of slavery was small? Where do I start? Cotton, cane, tea........ The paid eradication of slavery cost the exchequer (and therefore tax payers) more than was ever made in profits. Well, I'm not sure that your numbers are correct but it's irrelevant and it was covered alr...

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It was a profit motive, but for individuals rather than the state or economy as a whole. The overall economic impact was small but a few people got really rich. As for the moral imperative well that to me is too fluffy, subjective and requires some kind of special pleading. Not buying that. - A few...

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If the UK was rich before the slave trade then it is possible, probable even, that the infrastructure was build on wealth derived from other sources than the slave trade. Therefore any talk about residual benefits and reparations arising therefrom fall away. I don't think that works as a rebuttal s...

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