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Toro

Just say you don’t understand knock out sport That’s all you need to do :thumbup: :lol: You know what’s really a lottery, the 6 nations, you guys basically share it around like a participation trophy (Just not with the French). So I understand why you feel that way. If anyone doesn’t understand kno...

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So the point that the beat team wins the trophy isn’t correct Cool Thanks for the back up :thumbup: Congratulate yourself for being correct 10% of the time. :lol: Its correct far more often than its not. You don’t really understand the discussion do you :lol: Not surprising when your sentence makes...

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I think you've missed the sequencing here. This thread was not started by an Irishman. But instead of Kiwis going 'fair comment', we're getting trolled. That's where the admit it comes from. Instead of acting so defensively precious, maybe either don't get involved in the pile on or just comment th...

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Geez CM11 give it a rest, you're a good poster. Yeah it was one sided, most expected it to be. I don't see anyone on the bored trying to claim it was a classic semi final but we still watched with nerves of a semi final until we opened a decent lead and the were just hoping for no 'check check' or ...

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'4 more years' type stuff perhaps. Which to a reactor like Sexton would be fuel to the fire no doubt, as raw as it was. Well, not a fan of it and he's been guilty of that type of thing more than most but that's that, no biggie. I was just curious, as the camera angle didn't give a clue - was it to ...

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But I guess the point is, where were the AB fans and why was there no demand for tickets? I was there for 2011 RWC. Their fans bring cushions to sit on, on the terraces or grass banks....i shit you not Your point being? They're the best fans, best craic, best team if the RWC were a 20 game league.

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Tripe The best team wins a 20 game league The best team doesn’t always win a knock out competition Wigan won the FA Cup once, does that mean they were the best team in the competition? If SA get a red tonight and the All Blacks a red next week and England win does that mean they were the best team ...

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Geez CM11 give it a rest, you're a good poster. Yeah it was one sided, most expected it to be. I don't see anyone on the bored trying to claim it was a classic semi final but we still watched with nerves of a semi final until we opened a decent lead and the were just hoping for no 'check check' or a...

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This just isn't true. As I keep on saying, we spent the week last week trying to convince NZ fans that the game was a 50/50 game while you lot wallowed in your bullshit self flagellation. The best you could put up from an Irish source was a data analyst who said he didn't see where Ireland were wea...

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The Irish fans, players and pundits really convinced themselves the cup was theirs. All they had to do was show up. They'll never learn. I am looking forward to the next gen of entitled gobby brats rolling off the Irish production line though This just isn't true. As I keep on saying, we spent the ...

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I will have to watch the game again, but when watching the game in real time, I didn't see Argentina being refereed differently from the ABs in the game. They weren't, Gus was superb. Scrum PKs were clear as day, Pumas maul transgressions were as well. Gus didn't let either team buy penalties, made...

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Oh, stop it. In 2019: - boasted about not looking at analysis of opposition - didn’t use tactical kicking as it wasn’t the Australian way’ In 2015: - organised offbooks Oz Special Forces dudes to abduct each player and interrogate them. The players were never allowed speak to each other about it an...

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Shame our Irish brothers couldn't get in behind the ABs after we were pretty much all Irish at the 2011 Ireland Wallabies game. :? From what I’ve seen, Online Kiwis have spent the last week trashing Irish fans. I haven't seen that at all, unless you've been reading through fb comments which is alwa...

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Given how the draw had the 5 top teams on the same side of the draw, and the top 4 sides meeting in the QF, while an uninspiring England got to limp home against Fiji while Argentina had to get over Wales, I'd have to side with the journos on this one. The Irish journos complaining about the walkov...

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He can apparently speak 5+ languages fluently. Can’t coach for shit, but he’s a one-man Babel. He's a good coach. Not many are better. Oh, stop it. In 2019: - boasted about not looking at analysis of opposition - didn’t use tactical kicking as it wasn’t the Australian way’ In 2015: - organised offb...

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Shame our Irish brothers couldn't get in behind the ABs after we were pretty much all Irish at the 2011 Ireland Wallabies game. How quickly we forget. The holier than thou Irish supporters who all sssshhh the stadium in Dublin were all booing the kicker and singing over the haka the other night. Val...

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I’ll take that. Felt a bit for the Argies, they’ve been better than that over the years, not in a great moment and they weren’t really in it. Some really good patient build ups, good mix of structure in defense and some big hits to drive them back. Was actually quite impressed by the ginger tonight,...

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I say pick the talent early when it's obvious, he'd be a good development player for the AI's. He's already a real solid unit and 21, big kid. Four years is a long time, Lord has been picked without commanding a place in a soup team. His offload and vision is superb, reffed him a few times this yea...

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Most of the French team will be around in 4 years. Few other teams have that opportunity. Plus their u20s show that more talent is coming through. The Top14 is possibly the strongest in the world and growing stronger. Good time for French rugby. Absolutely, but with great power comes great pressure...

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I say pick the talent early when it's obvious, he'd be a good development player for the AI's. He's already a real solid unit and 21, big kid. Four years is a long time, Lord has been picked without commanding a place in a soup team. His offload and vision is superb, reffed him a few times this year...

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Backline is looking awesome, some depth needs to be developed but Roigard, DMac, Tele’a, JB, Rieko, Narawa, Jordan wouldn’t displease me if it were the team running out tonight. Is Havili sticking around? Ennor? We have Proctor looking like the best understudy at 13, Aumua would be the best project...

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Darry, PPP and Lord. Don’t doubt the players are already there, but Lord and PPP still look like skinny teenagers when next to Eben, Itoje etc. PPP is a unit. Listed as 119kg online. Whitelock was lighter than that playing for the AB's. Lord is light but we can send him to live with the Ioanes or F...

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Clearly Razor’s hardest work will be developing two more monster locks. Be very interested to see how we do here, BBB and Whitelock are leaving a massive hole. Darry, PPP and Lord. Don’t doubt the players are already there, but Lord and PPP still look like skinny teenagers when next to Eben, Itoje ...

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I fully expect Aidan Morgan to be in the mix for the 10 shirt next year. Not because he is the best 10, I just enjoy watching the way he plays 8) Love started off as a ten too, I think he has a higher ceiling than Morgan and other 10 candidates, he has a great skill set and decent size to him. Reub...

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Backline is looking awesome, some depth needs to be developed but Roigard, DMac, Tele’a, JB, Rieko, Narawa, Jordan wouldn’t displease me if it were the team running out tonight. Is Havili sticking around? Ennor? We have Proctor looking like the best understudy at 13, Aumua would be the best project ...

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Magpie26 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 20, 2023 12:08 pm I fully expect Aidan Morgan to be in the mix for the 10 shirt next year.

Not because he is the best 10, I just enjoy watching the way he plays

Love started off as a ten too, I think he has a higher ceiling than Morgan and other 10 candidates, he has a great skill set and decent size to him.

Toro

Doesn’t even matter, it came off his knee after he hit it back towards him.

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Before the match Kiwi bookmakers had Ireland as odds on favourites to beat their team. Maybe those bookies were churlish/smug/self satisfied too? You see where this is going? Of course there is going to be media post mortems as to what went right or wrong after a result. Its what the media/pundits ...

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You fail to explain your claim of high degree of danger. No real force in the tackle and didn't hit the knee. Also the referee team did not think it worthy of a yellow. What makes your judgement better than theirs? He did not even attempt to tackle and put himself into position that could have caus...

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Didn’t want to stink up the semi final thread, but old mate on a podcast had this to say ”Irish rugby journalist Rúaidhrí O'Connor has labelled the All Blacks 'smug' this week post the win over the number one ranked side. "They've been quite smug the All Blacks. They were quite smug in the aftermat...

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A great tackle around the ankles is one of best things you can see.

No arms needs to be treated like a high tackle, start at a red and mitigate down. There’s way less excuse for it than a high tackle and they need to start coming down hard on it.

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Sexton played one of the worst games I’ve seen from a pro 10. Like an aged man shuffling left and right and short passing ad nauseam. Offering nothing. His game review, if they bothered to do one, would have been brutal. I don't think you will find posters from either side arguing this. Great playe...

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Didn't Argentina go ahead in 2011 quarterfinal... wasn't an easy game in the end... The hardest part will be emotionally getting up for this game against a perceived lesser team... if it was a Bok semi-final, the team would be wired this week... I wonder how wired they feel facing Argentina. The ps...

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Is this correct? So when a tackler holds up the ball carrier, a maul is only formed if a team mate of the ball carrier joins the tackle? That is correct, funnily enough all maul laws then apply such as entry and collapsing but are rarely applied when a maul forms in open play I agree.. laws seem to...

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Yellow cards. Created by pressure. Created by Wayne Barnes. 1st one shouldn’t have happened as their was a 2 forward passes just before smith touched it. And I don’t believe it was a try scoring opportunity First one was pretty clear cut, combing for forward passes is a bit nitpicky. The penalty fo...

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Collapsing mauls is dangerous. Anyway, i'd rather keep the mauling laws as they have always been. If the maul runs away, then it isn't being defended properly because the defence is spread across the field. Well that's the thing, the maul as it is now has only existed since lifting in the lineout. ...

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It was an amazing performance don't get me wrong but I've heard Matt Williams ramble on about the soft tries Ireland conceded, just missed tackles apparently, when we let in two veeeeery soft tried. Who'd have thought of marking a halfback of a maul after just getting your 9 put in the bin? Frizzel...

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Your argument was that it wasn't dangerous. My argument is that IS dangerous, it's a flying wedge with the ball at the back, so even worse. This wouldn't happen if you could collapse mauls. Collapsing mauls is dangerous. Anyway, i'd rather keep the mauling laws as they have always been. If the maul...

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Quite enjoying this back and forth... fascinating hearing a ref's view.. I didn't think Alex in the video particularly thought Ireland were hard done by? Na, he reckons first scrum should've maybe been a reset, second one more of a clear picture of penalty to NZ. Eh, no that’s not what he said Lite...

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You seemed to be saying that part of the maul could break away as the same maul. Maybe i misunderstood. If it find itself separated by actions of the defence, it's the same maul and can literally run up field with the ball behind 5 players who can just smash players out of the way and if you want t...

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