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by Whatever
Tue Oct 31, 2023 10:25 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Hurricanes 2024. The Midget is gone!
Replies: 190
Views: 26183

Re: Hurricanes 2024. This year is not our year, again.

Surely the Canes can just sign every 2 metre plus young lock in NZ and make it a 'thing' that they don't start any lock under that height measure, regardless of how poor they are around the field? When Jeremy Thrush and Vaea Fifita are your team's locks of the century, you need to seriously look at...
by Whatever
Tue Oct 31, 2023 9:09 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Decline of the All Blacks
Replies: 117
Views: 2733

Re: Decline of the All Blacks

By the way, the Afrikaans for on is ‘op’. So, you know, there’s a lot less lost in translation this time than might have been by Tom Curry." What is he even saying here? I really have no idea, I assume it was another sly dig by Jake et al at the sort of people that sponsor these threads, but I'm ho...
by Whatever
Tue Oct 31, 2023 8:56 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Decline of the All Blacks
Replies: 117
Views: 2733

Re: Decline of the All Blacks

Are these types of threads common post world cups? Where the victor mocks the decline of their opponents? Seems harsh. But if a PR tradition, then fair enough. :thumbup: Well, there's this from the front page: https://www.planetrugby.com/news/loose-pass-rugby-world-cups-grand-finale-and-the-rushed-...
by Whatever
Tue Oct 31, 2023 8:15 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Will Sam Cane have to face the Judiciary after his RWC Final Red?
Replies: 174
Views: 5197

Re: Will Sam Cane have to face the Judiciary after his RWC Final Red?

Because that will be interesting.... You would think that he has to. The outcome could open a box of worms.... I mean it was a stone cold red but even if it wasn't, there is no way they would overturn it. It would look terrible. :lol: He'll get a quiet couple of games suspension and that will be it...
by Whatever
Tue Oct 31, 2023 8:08 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: What's wrong with SA?
Replies: 199
Views: 6392

Re: What's wrong with SA?

Natal Midlands, outside Richmond. Loads going back. Where do you live currently? I'm genuinely interested to know why anyone would move back to SA after living in wealthier and safer countries like UK, Australia, NZ, USA, etc? From an outsiders perspective, SA seems to be getting worse. Economy get...
by Whatever
Tue Oct 31, 2023 7:13 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Will Sam Cane have to face the Judiciary after his RWC Final Red?
Replies: 174
Views: 5197

Re: Will Sam Cane have to face the Judiciary after his RWC Final Red?

Because that will be interesting.... You would think that he has to. The outcome could open a box of worms.... Interesting discussion on the Cane & Kolisi cards on the front page, something for the likes of Jay Cee Cee, Flockwitt, KiwiDutchie and others interested in rugby law debates: https://www....
by Whatever
Tue Oct 31, 2023 4:57 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Will Sam Cane have to face the Judiciary after his RWC Final Red?
Replies: 174
Views: 5197

Re: Will Sam Cane have to face the Judiciary after his RWC Final Red?

Because that will be interesting.... You would think that he has to. The outcome could open a box of worms.... Interesting discussion on the Cane & Kolisi cards on the front page, something for the likes of Jay Cee Cee, Flockwitt, KiwiDutchie and others interested in rugby law debates: https://www....
by Whatever
Tue Oct 31, 2023 3:29 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: 2023 Rugby World Cup Final Match Thread - NZ Vs South Africa
Replies: 2845
Views: 47704

Re: 2023 Rugby World Cup Final Match Thread - NZ Vs South Africa

The tackler has to allow clear daylight before diving on the ball and also allow the tackled player release or play the ball. Barnes said 'not enough of a gap' so unfortunately that's why NZ were penalised . Ive seen this style of jackling penalised many times and its very much balancing two differ...
by Whatever
Mon Oct 30, 2023 7:58 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Rassie Erasmus and Springbok fans in general are a pack of whiney sore losers
Replies: 1358
Views: 42474

Re: Rassie Erasmus and Springbok fans in general are a pack of whiney sore losers

Rugby World Cup final referee Wayne Barnes got death threats, wife says Barnes oversaw New Zealand’s defeat by South Africa ‘We won’t miss you,’ Polly Barnes writes of World Cup https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2023/oct/29/rugby-world-cup-final-referee-wayne-barnes-got-death-threats-wife-says "Las...
by Whatever
Mon Oct 30, 2023 7:00 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: 2023 Rugby World Cup Final Match Thread - NZ Vs South Africa
Replies: 2845
Views: 47704

Re: 2023 Rugby World Cup Final Match Thread - NZ Vs South Africa

Why say nonsense like that? I just watched it. See image above.. there was daylight and daylight saving between Ardie and the ball.. That's what the ref saw. He didn't mention a left hand. I'm sure he'd change his mind once he saw a replay... and probably say sorry. And that he feels terrible. :D D...
by Whatever
Mon Oct 30, 2023 12:20 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Okay, so the ABs lost to the Boks twice in a RWC final
Replies: 70
Views: 2089

Re: Okay, so the ABs lost to the Boks twice in a RWC final

TheFrog wrote: Sun Oct 29, 2023 10:28 am Quality thread.

Reminds me the good old times of the bored.
Really not gracious winners.
by Whatever
Sun Oct 29, 2023 5:10 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: 2023 Rugby World Cup Final Match Thread - NZ Vs South Africa
Replies: 2845
Views: 47704

Re: 2023 Rugby World Cup Final Match Thread - NZ Vs South Africa

Maybe it was discussed but anyone know why Eben wasn't sanctioned for his penalty that led to the disallowed try? It wasn't even an action that potentially or probably prevented a try, it did prevent a try . Not sure about that, but the drone view did show an overlap. Normally the TMO/bunker pipe u...
by Whatever
Sun Oct 29, 2023 4:37 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: 2023 Rugby World Cup Final Match Thread - NZ Vs South Africa
Replies: 2845
Views: 47704

Re: 2023 Rugby World Cup Final Match Thread - NZ Vs South Africa

Maybe it was discussed but anyone know why Eben wasn't sanctioned for his penalty that led to the disallowed try? It wasn't even an action that potentially or probably prevented a try, it did prevent a try . Not sure about that, but the drone view did show an overlap. Normally the TMO/bunker pipe u...
by Whatever
Sun Oct 29, 2023 4:30 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: 2023 Rugby World Cup Final Match Thread - NZ Vs South Africa
Replies: 2845
Views: 47704

Re: 2023 Rugby World Cup Final Match Thread - NZ Vs South Africa

Apart from all the cards etc my biggest issue was fosters grasp on the game situation Can't understand why he didn't bring on dmac earlier The guy is a game breaker and he brings him on with like 5ms to go! He came on and immediately made 2 half breaks He should have been on from 15/20 mark at leas...
by Whatever
Sun Oct 29, 2023 7:12 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: 2023 Rugby World Cup Final Match Thread - NZ Vs South Africa
Replies: 2845
Views: 47704

Re: 2023 Rugby World Cup Final Match Thread - NZ Vs South Africa

They did, and they happen. I thought at the time it was a BS call that the leg was reckless or intentional but clearly the TMO had made their decision and weren't moving hence the yellow. That a review showed nothing wrong is frustrating but I don't know what can be done there. Did it? What have I ...
by Whatever
Sun Oct 29, 2023 6:57 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: 2023 Rugby World Cup Final Match Thread - NZ Vs South Africa
Replies: 2845
Views: 47704

Re: 2023 Rugby World Cup Final Match Thread - NZ Vs South Africa

Lack of clear separation. Which was wrong on replay. I'm more confused why Barnes had to let a penalty he had apologized for go ahead but we can pull back a try for knock on several phases earlier. That and the Frizell wrong yellow card hurt. In saying that we weren't good enough and SA did what th...
by Whatever
Sun Oct 29, 2023 6:24 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: 2023 Rugby World Cup Final Match Thread - NZ Vs South Africa
Replies: 2845
Views: 47704

Re: 2023 Rugby World Cup Final Match Thread - NZ Vs South Africa

I really don't like to complain about refs, and I think most of the takes coming out of NZ about Barnes are embarassing. He was broadly very good. Having said that, can anyone explain to me what the penalty against Savea that took the Boks from 6 to 9 points was officially for? That seemed odd to m...
by Whatever
Sun Oct 29, 2023 5:27 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: 2023 Rugby World Cup Final Match Thread - NZ Vs South Africa
Replies: 2845
Views: 47704

Re: 2023 Rugby World Cup Final Match Thread - NZ Vs South Africa

When they were at 14-14 (kolisi yellow card) I think it was worth going for the try. They did score twice (one try disallowed). It’s just that the conversion was missed. I think when kolisi came back on, they were trying to scab penalties, hence that period where they were pod shuffling over and ov...
by Whatever
Sun Oct 29, 2023 4:52 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: 2023 Rugby World Cup Final Match Thread - NZ Vs South Africa
Replies: 2845
Views: 47704

Re: 2023 Rugby World Cup Final Match Thread - NZ Vs South Africa

What an infantile, stupid thing to say on this thread. Get off. Ref intimidation at its finest. Win at all costs scum. Logic dictates that Flaps' initial post is directed at South African's as it was their team that won. He is actually suggesting that Barnes' rolled over to their side because he wa...
by Whatever
Sun Oct 29, 2023 4:48 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: 2023 Rugby World Cup Final Match Thread - NZ Vs South Africa
Replies: 2845
Views: 47704

Re: 2023 Rugby World Cup Final Match Thread - NZ Vs South Africa

Still going through the 4 stages of rugby grief What it was. (Shock) What could have been. (Denial) Who do we blame... (bargaining) What it is. (Acceptance) That last one is gonna take a while. All that within a few hours? I'm still stuck somewhere between #1 & #2. Not looking forward to #3.
by Whatever
Sun Oct 29, 2023 4:41 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: 2023 Rugby World Cup Final Match Thread - NZ Vs South Africa
Replies: 2845
Views: 47704

Re: 2023 Rugby World Cup Final Match Thread - NZ Vs South Africa

mr flaps wrote: Sun Oct 29, 2023 4:04 am
Whatever wrote: Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:52 am
mr flaps wrote: Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:20 am Barnes obviously didn’t want the death and rape threats to his Mrs again.
What an infantile, stupid thing to say on this thread. Get off.
Ref intimidation at its finest. Win at all costs scum.
What is wrong with you?
by Whatever
Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:52 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: 2023 Rugby World Cup Final Match Thread - NZ Vs South Africa
Replies: 2845
Views: 47704

Re: 2023 Rugby World Cup Final Match Thread - NZ Vs South Africa

mr flaps wrote: Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:20 am Barnes obviously didn’t want the death and rape threats to his Mrs again.
What an infantile, stupid thing to say on this thread. Get off.
by Whatever
Sun Oct 29, 2023 1:25 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: 2023 Rugby World Cup Final Match Thread - NZ Vs South Africa
Replies: 2845
Views: 47704

Re: 2023 Rugby World Cup Final Match Thread - NZ Vs South Africa

Arendse is great. PSDT crunched people like I’ve never seen before. He was causing mayhem. Also Telea wow PSDT should have gotten 2 MOTM awards he was that immense. Beyond immense, he was fvcking kanting immense. Jordie Barrett was one of the ABs best, and he's a big guy, but PSDT absolutely klatte...
by Whatever
Sun Oct 29, 2023 1:11 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: 2023 Rugby World Cup Final Match Thread - NZ Vs South Africa
Replies: 2845
Views: 47704

Re: 2023 Rugby World Cup Final Match Thread - NZ Vs South Africa

Just popped in to say a couple of things. First congratulations to the Boks on being the first to get to 4 RWC titles. You are just so good at these types of matches. Secondly, just really proud of how the 14 man All Blacks really took it to them. Just a bit off in their gameplan and a bit off in th...
by Whatever
Sat Oct 28, 2023 7:05 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: 2023 Rugby World Cup Final Match Thread - NZ Vs South Africa
Replies: 2845
Views: 47704

Re: 2023 Rugby World Cup Final Match Thread - NZ Vs South Africa

Cartman wrote: Sat Oct 28, 2023 7:00 pm
True Blue wrote: Sat Oct 28, 2023 6:59 pm One hour to the big dance :thumbup:
And then the rugby :thumbup:
Very good.
by Whatever
Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:41 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: 2023 Rugby World Cup Final Match Thread - NZ Vs South Africa
Replies: 2845
Views: 47704

Re: 2023 Rugby World Cup Final Match Thread - NZ Vs South Africa

Normally I get nervous before a RWC Final or test match for that matter. However, Ian foster has conditioned me not to feel anything and I feel rather calm and sombre before a final. Very strange I'm actually nervous now. I thought we would struggle to get beyond the QF, but now that we are here al...
by Whatever
Sat Oct 28, 2023 4:48 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Are NZ the most nauseating team in WR?
Replies: 14
Views: 786

Re: Are NZ the most nauseating team in WR?

Boks are the most hated team. NZ can stay in their hutch. The English, and especially Fleet Street, have always hated New Zealand. It's ironic. Can remember back to the days of John Reason et al. Don't think they've had quite the same level of hatred/bitterness towards South Africa. So that title i...
by Whatever
Sat Oct 28, 2023 2:33 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Tom Curry accuses Mbonambi of racial abuse
Replies: 1295
Views: 27673

Re: Tom Curry accuses Mbonambi of racial abuse

From the front page: https://www.planetrugby.com/news/rugby-football-union-ban-former-council-member-for-racist-slur "Rugby Football Union ban former council member for racist slur...The Rugby Football Union has confirmed that they have banned a former council member for racially abusing a union vo...
by Whatever
Sat Oct 28, 2023 3:27 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: 2023 Rugby World Cup Final Match Thread - NZ Vs South Africa
Replies: 2845
Views: 47704

Re: 2023 Rugby World Cup Final Match Thread - NZ Vs South Africa

My favorite all black player of all time is Ben Smith and I think that Will Jordan is an evolution of him. Boks to bring it home Not sure if posted (can't be arsed looking) but pretty good preview of the game on the front page: https://www.planetrugby.com/news/all-blacks-v-springboks-preview-the-ul...
by Whatever
Sat Oct 28, 2023 2:55 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Tom Curry accuses Mbonambi of racial abuse
Replies: 1295
Views: 27673

Re: Tom Curry accuses Mbonambi of racial abuse

From the front page: https://www.planetrugby.com/news/rugby-football-union-ban-former-council-member-for-racist-slur "Rugby Football Union ban former council member for racist slur...The Rugby Football Union has confirmed that they have banned a former council member for racially abusing a union vol...
by Whatever
Fri Oct 27, 2023 11:28 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Tom Curry accuses Mbonambi of racial abuse
Replies: 1295
Views: 27673

Re: Tom Curry accuses Mbonambi of racial abuse

A potentially legitimate issue, as I understand it, is that Curry was denied the opportunity to bring evidence before an Independent Disciplinary Tribunal. For appearances sake, presumably Mbonambi would have been permitted to bring his own evidence and counter the quality of any evidence brought f...
by Whatever
Thu Oct 26, 2023 6:50 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: 2023 Rugby World Cup Final Match Thread - NZ Vs South Africa
Replies: 2845
Views: 47704

Re: 2023 Rugby World Cup Final Match Thread - NZ Vs South Africa

So Williams rated ready for primetime against the experienced Nyakane (or Malberbe if on early), but Newell not rated to go up against Nche (Kitshoff) yet.

I expected to see Koch in the reserves (probably covering wing), why not?
by Whatever
Thu Oct 26, 2023 3:56 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: 2023 Rugby World Cup Final Match Thread - NZ Vs South Africa
Replies: 2845
Views: 47704

Re: 2023 Rugby World Cup Final Match Thread - NZ Vs South Africa

7/1 split tacit admission that they're quite fatigued? Or that they expect the All Black forwards to tire in the second half The All Black forwards will tire. Which is why they will pick 5 replacement forwards on the bench. Like sane people. 7-1 is a hail mary. And there's a good chance it will bac...
by Whatever
Thu Oct 26, 2023 4:49 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: 2023 Rugby World Cup Final Match Thread - NZ Vs South Africa
Replies: 2845
Views: 47704

Re: 2023 Rugby World Cup Final Match Thread - NZ Vs South Africa

I reckon on top of World Champs, this game also decides the WPOTY award. If SA wins, Etzebeth will be a strong favourite. If NZ wins, Ardie will likely get it, with Jordan an outside chance if he goes ballistic (would have to score at least 2 tries IMO). Aaron Smith also an outside chance imo, just...
by Whatever
Wed Oct 25, 2023 2:31 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: 2023 Rugby World Cup Final Match Thread - NZ Vs South Africa
Replies: 2845
Views: 47704

Re: 2023 Rugby World Cup Final Match Thread - NZ Vs South Africa

Good thread so far. I think we'll get to 50-60 pages by the end of the game. That's pretty good for this forum in 2023. We were never going to get to 100+ pages we had in the QF as there are so many more Irish posters than South African posters. 5 pages less than the Curry/Bongi thread :( A thread ...
by Whatever
Wed Oct 25, 2023 12:13 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: 2023 Rugby World Cup Final Match Thread - NZ Vs South Africa
Replies: 2845
Views: 47704

Re: 2023 Rugby World Cup Final Match Thread - NZ Vs South Africa

When are the teams announced? I assume Thursday (French time) for the ABs. Often South Africa announce theirs ahead of time, so are they sweating on fitness for some players? I like the way the All Blacks have managed to go largely under the radar until now, all the talk had been about the 3 higher ...
by Whatever
Wed Oct 25, 2023 3:11 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Official Bunnings Warehouse NPC 2023
Replies: 680
Views: 20423

Re: Official Bunnings Warehouse NPC 2023

Great post match interview from Neil Barnes. Congrats Taranaki. Was Barnes having a bit of a crack at Mark Robinson saying the NPC was "not fit for purpose"? Finally able to make time to watch the game; great game, great crowd and a real community feel to it. That's what the NPC should be like. Mak...
by Whatever
Tue Oct 24, 2023 10:40 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: 2023 Rugby World Cup Final Match Thread - NZ Vs South Africa
Replies: 2845
Views: 47704

Re: 2023 Rugby World Cup Final Match Thread - NZ Vs South Africa

MoonBatto wrote: Tue Oct 24, 2023 10:30 pm I have nothing constructive to say except that I have the fear.


Which is good.
I am reasonably sanguine about the final. Didn't expect to get this far.

Pro of winning the final: We win for the 4th time.
Con of winning the final: Sir Ian Foster.
by Whatever
Tue Oct 24, 2023 10:09 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: 2023 Rugby World Cup Final Match Thread - NZ Vs South Africa
Replies: 2845
Views: 47704

Re: 2023 Rugby World Cup Final Match Thread - NZ Vs South Africa

Auckman wrote: Tue Oct 24, 2023 10:06 pm I reckon only Moody, Reece & Tupaea were realistic selection chances
I would say TJ ahead of Christie on the bench too, although he is long-term injured. If they are not putting Roigard on the bench due to his inexperience, then logically TJ would have been a shot.
by Whatever
Tue Oct 24, 2023 10:02 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: 2023 Rugby World Cup Final Match Thread - NZ Vs South Africa
Replies: 2845
Views: 47704

Re: 2023 Rugby World Cup Final Match Thread - NZ Vs South Africa

Sevu Reece might have been handy, but really that's the only one that I can think of. Joe Moody, George Bower, Angus Ta’avao, Patrick Tuipulotu, Quinn Tupaea, TJPerenara... Probably only Moody and TJ a chance for the top 23. Obviously Blackadder (& Grace I think) was injured at the time of selectio...